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RC3117
Caldari
Irregular Defence Force
Sspectre
Posted - 2011.04.11 22:10:00 - [1]
 

In any good sci-fi game, movie, tv show, books, even game bored, the security forces respond to a threat with perfect force needed, which Concord does very well. What i have noticed that they do not do, is rep a ship getting ganked. wouldn't an organization meant to keep the peace and proved help to someone under an illegal attack, attempt to do more then kill the person who is attacking them? give me your thoughts on this CSM people, and players.

I am not saying we need to keep the ship alive, but Concord should rep a ship under attack until the attacking ship is gone.


dont say its a bad idea just because you do just this thing. if ccp wants eve to be the best, most realistic, mmo out there, then they should fix this issue in some way.

Goose99
Posted - 2011.04.11 22:15:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: RC3117
In any good sci-fi game, movie, tv show, books, even game bored, the security forces respond to a threat with perfect force needed, which Concord does very well. What i have noticed that they do not do, is rep a ship getting ganked. wouldn't an organization meant to keep the peace and proved help to someone under an illegal attack, attempt to do more then kill the person who is attacking them? give me your thoughts on this CSM people, and players.

I am not saying we need to keep the ship alive, but Concord should rep a ship under attack until the attacking ship is gone.


dont say its a bad idea just because you do just this thing. if ccp wants eve to be the best, most realistic, mmo out there, then they should fix this issue in some way.


This won't help, unless you want a rr concord ship arriving immediately, before others. As soon as concord arrive, they jam the ganker. The point of suicide gank with anything other than smartbombs is to get it done before concord arrives.

Ganthrithor
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.11 22:36:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Ganthrithor on 11/04/2011 22:39:40
Edited by: Ganthrithor on 11/04/2011 22:36:44
Originally by: Goose99
Originally by: RC3117
In any good sci-fi game, movie, tv show, books, even game bored, the security forces respond to a threat with perfect force needed, which Concord does very well. What i have noticed that they do not do, is rep a ship getting ganked. wouldn't an organization meant to keep the peace and proved help to someone under an illegal attack, attempt to do more then kill the person who is attacking them? give me your thoughts on this CSM people, and players.

I am not saying we need to keep the ship alive, but Concord should rep a ship under attack until the attacking ship is gone.


dont say its a bad idea just because you do just this thing. if ccp wants eve to be the best, most realistic, mmo out there, then they should fix this issue in some way.



This won't help, unless you want a rr concord ship arriving immediately, before others. As soon as concord arrive, they jam the ganker. The point of suicide gank with anything other than smartbombs is to get it done before concord arrives.


But instantly-appearing, remote repairing spaceships would be so *realistic*!

How about when you're attacked, CONCORD show up 3-10 hours later, proceed to photograph your wreck, gently make fun of you for not fitting a tank, and report your loot as stolen. Then, absolutely nothing happens to the perp! That sounds much more realistic.

Klunker Klash
Posted - 2011.04.12 02:03:00 - [4]
 

^^ Like~

Maybe I've just been on Facebook too much, but I wish EVE forums had a "Like" button.

Deuce Syundai
Posted - 2011.04.12 02:18:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Klunker Klash
^^ Like~
Maybe I've just been on Facebook too much, but I wish EVE forums had a "Like" button.


The 'new' forums have a thumbs-up button for posts (or had, before they died again).

Goose99
Posted - 2011.04.12 02:28:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Goose99 on 12/04/2011 02:27:53
Originally by: Ganthrithor
Edited by: Ganthrithor on 11/04/2011 22:39:40
Edited by: Ganthrithor on 11/04/2011 22:36:44
Originally by: Goose99
Originally by: RC3117
In any good sci-fi game, movie, tv show, books, even game bored, the security forces respond to a threat with perfect force needed, which Concord does very well. What i have noticed that they do not do, is rep a ship getting ganked. wouldn't an organization meant to keep the peace and proved help to someone under an illegal attack, attempt to do more then kill the person who is attacking them? give me your thoughts on this CSM people, and players.

I am not saying we need to keep the ship alive, but Concord should rep a ship under attack until the attacking ship is gone.


dont say its a bad idea just because you do just this thing. if ccp wants eve to be the best, most realistic, mmo out there, then they should fix this issue in some way.



This won't help, unless you want a rr concord ship arriving immediately, before others. As soon as concord arrive, they jam the ganker. The point of suicide gank with anything other than smartbombs is to get it done before concord arrives.


But instantly-appearing, remote repairing spaceships would be so *realistic*!

How about when you're attacked, CONCORD show up 3-10 hours later, proceed to photograph your wreck, gently make fun of you for not fitting a tank, and report your loot as stolen. Then, absolutely nothing happens to the perp! That sounds much more realistic.


Technically, if that's the case, they would also empty your wallet, confiscate your assets, imprison and possibly biomass you. Your corp/alliance whom gave you material support would have its assets impounded, wallet frozen, locked out of markets, and members arrested on sight... But that's taking it too far (both parts, including yours).

As game mechanic, immediately warping in concord rr does make sense. Except it can be abused - when you're about to die for whatever reason, have someone make the ultimate sacrifice to call in concord to save the day.Laughing

It'll need work. Supported in principle.

RC3117
Caldari
Irregular Defence Force
Sspectre
Posted - 2011.04.12 02:38:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: RC3117 on 12/04/2011 03:39:16
Edited by: RC3117 on 12/04/2011 02:43:08
ok, first off, concord has the same long distance travel drives as the jovian, instant appearance into any place, they just have to click the "jump here" button, hence the delay till they show up. but maybe the RR could come from the empire's ships that are on station at every single high sec gate.

but the RR by concord could only be in major hubs, cause a super space force like them would want to protect the source of their income's main source of income, aka hubs. and 1.0's-.9's would call for the RR.

that would make sense for ccp to do, in my opinion.

and also, everything gets abused in eve some how. eventually people always find a way to use something to their advantage. its the way games work.

and most of u sound like a bunch of kids in middle school dissing some other kids idea. grow up.

Anna Lifera
6....
HAWK Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.12 05:35:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Anna Lifera on 12/04/2011 06:27:21
Originally by: RC3117
In any good sci-fi game, movie, tv show, books, even game bored, the security forces respond to a threat with perfect force needed, which Concord does very well. What i have noticed that they do not do, is rep a ship getting ganked. wouldn't an organization meant to keep the peace and proved help to someone under an illegal attack, attempt to do more then kill the person who is attacking them? give me your thoughts on this CSM people, and players.

I am not saying we need to keep the ship alive, but Concord should rep a ship under attack until the attacking ship is gone.

dont say its a bad idea just because you do just this thing. if ccp wants eve to be the best, most realistic, mmo out there, then they should fix this issue in some way.

ok, first off, concord has the same long distance travel drives as the jovian, instant appearance into any place, they just have to click the "jump here" button, hence the delay till they show up. but maybe the RR could come from the empire's ships that are on station at every single high sec gate.

but the RR by concord could only be in major hubs, cause a super space force like them would want to protect the source of their income's main source of income, aka hubs. and 1.0's-.9's would call for the RR.

that would make sense for ccp to do, in my opinion.

and also, everything gets abused in eve some how. eventually people always find a way to use something to their advantage. its the way games work.

and most of u sound like a bunch of kids in middle school dissing some other kids idea. grow up.


1. same reason why their sentry guns don't rep a ship being illegally attacked in low sec--they only punish, not protect.
2.
Originally by: RC3117
I am not saying we need to keep the ship alive, but Concord should rep a ship under attack until the attacking ship is gone.


news flash--keeping a ship alive is what repping does. derp. Rolling Eyes
3. u want more realism? ok--for starters, anyone who has ever illegally attacked a ship in low sec suffers the same sec penalties for all their alts. after all, criminals can use fake ids (or high sec alts in this case) and they can also operate under the front of a legal business (high sec mining) to support their illegal ways under the relative safety of the same concord they're against when they pirate.
4. and the best part? after all this, u still call everyone else "kids" when they poke holes in your stupid notion of realism in a science fiction game.
5. oh and let's not forget that u're okay with abusing/exploiting your own proposal but at the same time, an existing and intended game mechanic is not okay just because u hate it.
6. therefore, your proposal just all boils down to a modified quote of yours:
Quote:
"dont say its a good idea just because you hate just this thing."
'cause face it--u just want more safety while u're hiding and collecting easy isk in high sec and still be able to pirate and get away from the same concord that u take for granted.

but plz continue--i'd really love it to hear it. Laughing

FlameGlow
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2011.04.12 05:51:00 - [9]
 

CONCORD provides punishment, not protection.Repping won't help anyway as now targets are one-shotted in most cases

Tyme Xandr
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.04.12 17:19:00 - [10]
 

Yeah concord isnt EMS.

Cantabar
Posted - 2011.04.17 03:12:00 - [11]
 

Maybe just require standings with the local factions for reps. IE The Caldari like me so they try and keep my ships alive when someone else aggresses me. Maybe they will stay out of the fight if the attacker also has high standings...

It doesnt negate suicide ganking but it certainly doesnt make it easier.


 

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