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Fat Freddy
Posted - 2011.04.10 07:19:00 - [121]
 

Old forums.

The new forum looks like it was designed by an ex Fisher-Price designer, all primary colours and chunky buttons, I found it quite offensive to the eye.

Fred

Armon Ral
Posted - 2011.04.10 07:24:00 - [122]
 

I think I prefer old one, at present.

I'm confused.

Why not just plug in something like vBulletin - ready-made, customizable, feature-rich, extremely widely used and proven forum platform with a great track record.


Mal Darkrunner
Caldari
Zero Tau Research Institute
Posted - 2011.04.10 07:27:00 - [123]
 

Edited by: Mal Darkrunner on 10/04/2011 07:28:20
I kind of liked the new forums, and the Favourites were nice, however...

Originally by: Liang Nuren
...it kept sending me to the last page of the thread. That was ****ing annoying.


This.

Fenlx
Posted - 2011.04.10 07:28:00 - [124]
 

Old.

Han Renbai
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.04.10 07:32:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Old forums.

Better layout, colour scheme, usability, integration, emoticons.


+1

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2011.04.10 07:38:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Steve Thomas
somehow after all of this time CCP has yet to realise that for the most pare. we areNOT here because we want to see our beutiful bodys in see through Galant clothing, or psudo leather sm inspired Minmitar cothing or Starfleet uniform design rejects or thoes idiotic preist robe things.

were here because of the bloody ****in spacehsips. Besides, I hate to be the one to break it to CCP but from what I have seen there interior design skills literaly suck, and its taken them how long now to just build 4 fairly small static housing units that most people will never EVER see that often in game?


some of us are here for a scifi universe, and well smexy see through clothing, space ponies, spaceships, planet wars, and space bars are all things we want.

that and space ponies + dress up in space seem like awesome things that can attract lots more gamers.

**** I want space farmville, I want to tend to a garden of exotic plants in zero grav, and I WANT to ride my space pony through my space garden in my see through s&m minmatar leather while being an awesome caldari citizen!

Andrea Exerlauka
Posted - 2011.04.10 07:49:00 - [127]
 

I have grown used to the old ones.

It would have been great if CCP had worked on improving them gradually, instead of doing a full rewrite from the ground-up.

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:07:00 - [128]
 

Edited by: Flynn Fetladral on 10/04/2011 08:07:42
I like the old more at this stage as it's just more usable for text, wider, more threads per page. When you design forums you have to design it around the basic function of writing and reading text, and in some cases it seems like that was an after thoughts on the new forums. I like the aesthetic design and colours on the new forums more than the old forums however.

One thing though this whole cluster f**k as got me thinking about is, if CCP has struggled to turn out a battle tested forum, then I'm actually for the first time since I subbed for this game, concerned about their ability to produce content for EVE Online which is well thought out and iterated on...

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:09:00 - [129]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 10/04/2011 08:16:19
Originally by: Kyra Felann
Edited by: Kyra Felann on 10/04/2011 04:11:11
Being a rational, thinking person instead of a reactionary whiner, I prefer the new ones, of course.

It boggles my mind that anyone would not prefer the new ones.

Originally by: Tippia
The only thing the new forum have over this, so far, is bling.


On the contrary, the only thing the old forums have over the new ones is that people are used to them. The new ones look and work differently, so people ***** and complain like they do about any change.

Just because you've learned to live with 2001 style forums for the last 7 years doesn't make them better.

Damn, where is the 'Like' button Very Happy?

I agree totally to that. And yes, i prefer the new forum over the old forum by miles. BUT........ i only do that when the security holes are fixed and when i use this script.

Not sure though, but it seems that i have been very lucky on the new forum though. Since i haven't found any issues / bugs on the new forum so far.

Julius Rigel
Sub-warp Racing Venture
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:21:00 - [130]
 

I don't post in poll threads very often, but when I do, I prefer the old forum.

Redblade
Reikoku
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:28:00 - [131]
 


Wormerling
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:29:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: Wormerling on 10/04/2011 08:34:35
Edited by: Wormerling on 10/04/2011 08:33:01
Edited by: Wormerling on 10/04/2011 08:32:48
The new ones.

Because:
1. I liked the new forums integration with eve-gate.
2. Narrower text window is better for reading. Ideally it should be 70-80 chars in width.
3. The like system. When there are hundreds of posts per thread there no doubt should be some hint to decide what posts to read. It was a very short time to say if the system was useful or not, but at other places (youtube for example), it works.

P.S. Sorry for edits. Rolled back.
-w

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:31:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Wormerling
The new ones.

Because:
1. I liked the new forums integration with eve-gate.
2. Narrower text window is better for reading. Ideally it should be 70-80 chars in width.
3. The like system. When there are hundreds of posts per thread there no doubt should be some hint to decide what posts to read. It was a very short time to say if the system was useful or not, but at other places (youtube for example), it works.

-w


and here is the one place I see room for improvement. youtube has a "dislike" button as well as a like button.

Im Blue
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:39:00 - [134]
 

these ones, they work and dont make my head hurt when reading.

dont go back to the other ones pls

Black Omne
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:49:00 - [135]
 

Definitely prefer the old forums much better. The colors, text, everything is easier to read and much less time consuming. CCP, if you are bound and determined to force the new forums on us, at least make it so we can customize them to look any way we want, even the way the current forums look if we want.


Wormerling
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:54:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: Wormerling on 10/04/2011 08:53:58
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Wormerling
The new ones.

Because:
1. I liked the new forums integration with eve-gate.
2. Narrower text window is better for reading. Ideally it should be 70-80 chars in width.
3. The like system. When there are hundreds of posts per thread there no doubt should be some hint to decide what posts to read. It was a very short time to say if the system was useful or not, but at other places (youtube for example), it works.

-w


and here is the one place I see room for improvement. youtube has a "dislike" button as well as a like button.



Well, yeah.

I wish there was a feature to filter only posts with many likes. I wish there was a dislike button and posts with many dislikes were hidden by default. I do find number of likes under the portrait useless and silly.

I wish there was a kind of support of "talk branches" among a single thread. For example, our 3 posts are put into a single "branch" (with the head post of the thread). That way I can select a single branch in the big discussion, fully read it and answer. As for now, I can only answer the head post (yes, maybe this is the intended and ideal way of communication in forums but it's not how it works on practice). Or I can just randomly pick people who posted before me and answer them. The communication in the current forums looks pretty chaotic to me (unless it's a very small thread with few participants).

Yes, I agree new forums lack some features, were buggy and etc. But I support the chosen direction of the development still.

-w

Korvan Hraldir Davanev
Silver and Gold Enterpises
Posted - 2011.04.10 08:55:00 - [137]
 

Old ones.

I don't use Eve gate so don't care about those aspects of the new ones.

Layout of new ones much less easy on my eyes. No sure why the need for a change. So what if these ones are 2001 style, if it works don't fix it. All these old ones needed were a half decent search function added.

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:00:00 - [138]
 

Old ones, without any doubt...

Just the sheer amount of data downloaded to display ONE damned page is enough to condemn the new one to eternal damnation...
I usually use a mobile to browse the forum, and the new forum would have eaten through my 500mb allowance in ~500 page views...

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:11:00 - [139]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 10/04/2011 09:55:58
Old ones for me.

* The new ones are slow
* Only 20 threads per page (of which 5 stickies) is really annoying, like a book with just 1 sentence on each page
* No race or bloodline anymore
* Silly "like" button
* No signatures/pictures
* more than 40 pages of posts make the forum lag like hell

I don't say the new forums don't have potential but let them wait a few more months and get something really good, including basic forum options like 60 threads a page, polls, seeing in which thread you posted - all pretty standard utilities for a decent forum.

Boonaki
Caldari
Focused Annihilation
Detrimental Imperative
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:11:00 - [140]
 

I prefer the old forums by far, I don't see me using the new ones.

Mary Christmas
Legio Noviomagum
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:12:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Calathea Sata
Let's pretend for a second that the new forums are working properly without security flaws.

Which one do you prefer? New or old?


i would like a decently functioning new forum over this old ****ty one

Idami Raptor
Gallente
E.A.D Alliance
Omega Vector
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:25:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: Wormerling
Edited by: Wormerling on 10/04/2011 08:34:35
Edited by: Wormerling on 10/04/2011 08:33:01
Edited by: Wormerling on 10/04/2011 08:32:48
The new ones.

Because:
1. I liked the new forums integration with eve-gate.
2. Narrower text window is better for reading. Ideally it should be 70-80 chars in width.
3. The like system. When there are hundreds of posts per thread there no doubt should be some hint to decide what posts to read. It was a very short time to say if the system was useful or not, but at other places (youtube for example), it works.

P.S. Sorry for edits. Rolled back.
-w


1.) Someone uses eve-gate for more than just checking their mail?
2.) That's personal opinion. I hate it when it's that small personally. This is why there should've been an option to set the width, instead of just forcing it down everyone's throats.
3.) Well other places it works because it does something. As far as I'd seen it was literally just a statistic. A statistic you can't DO anything with. Much like whatever version of 'achievement points' whatever you're playing has.

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:29:00 - [143]
 

New forums.

Neither are perfect, I still hit the report button on the old forums thinking it's a reply button. And as for the new forums well I think there will be a lot to polish on that as we've seen from current problems - but it is a start.

First feature I'd really like is to be able to choose the width. Well after the other more serious fixes. I think the web devs need to be allowed some time to do a proper code review once they've solved the immediate problems and before the next phase as many of the mistakes just wouldn't be expected from experienced devs and certainly in agency land oftens occurs when devs are no R and all D meaning there skills lag behind the industry. Not sure what CCP devs excuse is.

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:53:00 - [144]
 

I dont know why the OP cares - seeing as he's quitting. Rolling Eyes

C.


Judicator Saturnius
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:58:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Idami Raptor
Someone uses eve-gate for more than just checking their mail?


It does other things? :boggle:

Tarasina
Posted - 2011.04.10 10:08:00 - [146]
 

Old forums. Just less strain on the eyes etc. The colorscheme on the new one is bad, I can't also read things easily, I have to concentrate on every line, every word.

I breathed a sigh of relief when just now I clicked to the forums and saw the old one back.
Just less strain on the eyes, more information on the screen and so on.

Bhattran
Posted - 2011.04.10 10:12:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Tippia
"New" is unfortunately not a synonym for "better".


Wat u sai? BLASPHEMY! REPENT!!!

-Liang

Ed: **** the 2 minute timer FFS. New forums are better if they don't have it.


I take this opportunity to mention that after CCP announced they were going to 'look into the 5 minute delay' it took several more months for them to then say 'they'd take care of it' and somewhere between 6+ months to a year to get somebody to take the 2 minutes it takes to change the '5' to a '2' so it could be implemented.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2011.04.10 10:13:00 - [148]
 

Old by far. My main wants in a forum is ease of writing and reading posts. This is done much, much better on the old forum. The new one is harder to read and slow as hell compared to every other forum I'm currently using or have ever used.

When your forum fails to deliver on those main points, it doesn't matter what kind of fluff or additional features your forum has. It's always going to be inferior in my book, since those additional features are only there to facilitate and serve the main function of a forum. On their own they have very little value and aren't enough to make up for the large difference in usability.

Y Berion
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.10 10:20:00 - [149]
 

Old forums are tons better. All they needed is some tweaking and that's all.

So as far as I am concerned, they should keep new forums offline - permanently. They are horrible.

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.04.10 10:28:00 - [150]
 

Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 10/04/2011 10:30:42
Originally by: Armon Ral
I think I prefer old one, at present.

I'm confused.

Why not just plug in something like vBulletin - ready-made, customizable, feature-rich, extremely widely used and proven forum platform with a great track record.



They plugged in yaf a ready-made, customizable, feature-rich, extremely widely used and proven forum platform with a great track record.

Problem is they had to replace some parts (authentication) with custom-made solutions and replaced other parts for reasons nobody understands (HTML/JavaScript filtering) and managed to create a load of security issues that are not present in a default yaf installation.

tl;dr no forum platform is robust enough to be even secure after CCP devs had their hands on it

edit: there isn't super much forum software that runs on ASP.net/MSSQL.


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