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Jamie Banks
Quantum Horizons
Posted - 2011.04.07 02:48:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Originally by: Syds Sinclair
..I wonder how Amarr Citizen 155 got his isk. Hmmm.


OH NOES!!!! I'm caught....idiot.

/finger


OH NOES its AC trying to milk that one 'scam' for every +1 internet he can get.

Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2011.04.07 02:50:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Jamie Banks
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Originally by: Syds Sinclair
..I wonder how Amarr Citizen 155 got his isk. Hmmm.


OH NOES!!!! I'm caught....idiot.

/finger


OH NOES its AC trying to milk that one 'scam' for every +1 internet he can get.

Yes that must be it, since I'm the one that mentioned it in this thread first eh? Please stop competing against Syds.

cyndrogen
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:03:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Tehg Rhind
Edited by: Tehg Rhind on 07/04/2011 02:47:48
In answer to the OP, I would say that I am. Because I have found true love, and the effect that has on my NAV is priceless.


Congratulations on finding your true love! I hope her name is Eve! ;)

cyndrogen
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:06:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: cyndrogen on 07/04/2011 03:07:02

Ladies and Gentlemen,

We have two of New Edens SUPER STARS posting in this forum!

Give them a warm welcome! We are very pleased to see Amar Citizen 155 and Akita T posting here!!!

I'm not sure if they are friends or competitors but welcome anyway.

Very Happy

Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:08:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 07/04/2011 03:19:47
..a..

cyndrogen
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:11:00 - [36]
 

I think it's very much a "market discussion"... know your enemy ;)

We need to know who we are up against in the markets. Razz

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:13:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
Also, why aren't you counting assets?

Yeah, not counting assets is a big no-no.
I'm just a mere speck compared to the likes of Entity and such, even if they had much less liquid ISK at any given time.

cyndrogen
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:16:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
Also, why aren't you counting assets?

Yeah, not counting assets is a big no-no.
I'm just a mere speck compared to the likes of Entity and such, even if they had much less liquid ISK at any given time.


Assets are not ISK directly, I simply want to know what the "CLAIM" on value is from players, ISK in itself has no value it is simply a CLAIM on value.

Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:19:00 - [39]
 

..1..

Tasko Pal
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.04.07 03:45:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Tasko Pal on 07/04/2011 03:49:47
As I suspected, the EVElopedia article on Entity contains an estimate of his wealth at 3 trillion isk. Since he is coincidentally the primary contributor to his wiki page, I imagine this number is his personal claim.

I also wonder what some of the wealthier members of the big 0.0 alliances take home. A single tech moon (or in the old days a dyspro moon) isn't enough to catapult you into the trillionaire's club, but some alliances control a large number of good moons, a tax stream from thousands of active players, and sometimes other big projects like supercap production and station revenue. If you skim off the top of that for several years and invested it, that'd might be enough to make you a contender.

Propagandass
Posted - 2011.04.07 06:39:00 - [41]
 

f900 or entity are richest

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.04.07 06:58:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Propagandass
f900 or entity are richest


To listen to them, anyway.

Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
Posted - 2011.04.07 07:59:00 - [43]
 

Might seem as a dumb q, but since Chribba gets mentioned in every second thread wouldn't he be one of the richest (at least from what I have read he has a giant titanmining fleet)

AnakieNine
Posted - 2011.04.07 08:24:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: AnakieNine on 07/04/2011 08:28:22
Why not, I haven't played properly for months.

My name is An-a-ke Nine I'm a reformed trillionaire...

First off, from my experience there are not as many eve trillionaire's as players like to think. I spent around 4 years tring to exclusively dominate the Amarr regions most worthwhile trades lines. Amarr has more solar systems and stations than any other in eve and perfect since I like a challenge. Amarr has pretty much always been the 2nd-4th largest economy in eve. So it was the one I saw as having the most potential. Over the time I played I made around 800b from general trading and in the later stages made roughly 500b from building/manufacturing using a heap of accounts. The last 1T I made was the hardest in so many ways. It came from speculating like Ataki T and was the hardest because Tying up isk for up to a year burns you out.. Even if you stagger it over 50 items and 1-2 a week. Only those taking a break from the game or with with large asset/isk that they dont use can do it properly. Ask Ataki T how much richer he would be if he waited until now to sell his investments. Instead of having something around 450b it would have been almost 1T by now.

I talk Nav, not ISK. Nothing else matters. Real Traders are always going to be isk poor and don't have large sums of isk on hand. They always re-invest and turnover as much as possible as often as possible.

The last time I calculated all my accounts NAV it was around 2.5T. That excluds 1000's of BPO's, and a nice little collection of T2 bpos collected because they are rare. It also doesn't include all the special items from contracts. i.e faction loot and things like that.

Most of the players I see that seem to be Trillionairs are old players that made their isk during a time when ccp and the game mechanics allowed for it. Some made it by luck as CCP changed things, however most imo eventually came from being around the time when the T2 lottery existed. Those players that collected T2 BPO's back then did very well. CCP has since worked towards changing the mechanics that allow individual players to make large sums of isk. They changed the way they do things imo. Therefore do not expect many more new players to pop up with 1000b+. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if I was one of the last to bridge the gap. At a peak I was turning over 100b a day. There was a year I was turning over 30-40b a day just to make a couple of billion and kill of any other opposition/traders. Basically it was a case of if you can why not. Eve-mails where often interesting. At the time I just wanted to dominate the market in the Amarr region. It wasn't specifically to make isk. The only reason for making isk was to make it easier for the next round of trading and picking things ups. Remember I was a regional trader and happy to pay jita buy order prices or more. In the end it was my way to keep out 99.5% of other players out and allowed me to minimise the 0.01 games so I could work on the next product group or the next product.

T3 was very good in the early days. At a time when Jita was the only place selling T3, I decided to use 100b to push product out to regional hubs. Specifically Amarr. On the days I worked T3 instead of my normal market I was making 5-10b a day from around 10-20b sales. Easily 50% profit. It was a case of not enough players with skills to build for supply. I was lazy and didn't like T3/invention. I plan for T3 and had 6 characters trained for t3 ship building in a month of release. At the time I had heavy competition from a corp/group of players trying to take over lots of Amarr markets. So I left T3 for weeks at a time deciding to keeping my normal trades to myself against the heaviest trade opposition I have ever had in eve. I should have pushed T3 for what it was worth. I guess they are the choices you sometimes have to make. So only only made 300b-450b off T3 instead of really crazy figures for the time.

Excuse all the typos etc I am always lazy on forums.

AnakieNine
Posted - 2011.04.07 08:33:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Nathan Jameson
Originally by: Propagandass
f900 or entity are richest


To listen to them, anyway.

imo Entity would be the richest. Nothing like old cap booster I's bpo getting turned into T2 bpo's for the win.

F900 is very sus. Yes he might have heaps but many things don't add up and prone to exaggeration.

Atima
Minmatar
House of Marbles
Posted - 2011.04.07 08:58:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Originally by: Syds Sinclair
..I wonder how Amarr Citizen 155 got his isk. Hmmm.


OH NOES!!!! I'm caught....idiot.

/finger


Maybe he ran level 4's like the rest of us peasants?

Caldari FTW123
Posted - 2011.04.07 12:17:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Caldari FTW123 on 07/04/2011 12:18:06
Originally by: AnakieNine
snipsnip


I thought you had stopped playing almost entirely, you're one of the few I had in mind for the "ACTUAL richest" list, I figured you for the 3-4T mark. Interesting to hear your story! I guess Amarr might not be a safe place to trade anymore huh ;D

F900 I think is full of sh!t for the most part, he has more isk than the average joe and had some nice ships but he boasted a NAV and wallet far higher than reality.

Lagruna Zegata
Posted - 2011.04.13 04:52:00 - [48]
 

A trillion ISK is roughly 10 Titans, give or take?

Isthisanalt
Posted - 2011.04.13 06:13:00 - [49]
 

Hulls and fitting? or just hull? and market price or build price?

Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.04.13 07:41:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Lagruna Zegata
A trillion ISK is roughly 10 Titans, give or take?


Depending on which one, at build cost it is maybe 20 titans.

Thats a very rough estimate though, and kind of irrelevant to the OP as well.

Lagruna Zegata
Posted - 2011.04.13 10:32:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Originally by: Lagruna Zegata
A trillion ISK is roughly 10 Titans, give or take?


Depending on which one, at build cost it is maybe 20 titans.

Thats a very rough estimate though, and kind of irrelevant to the OP as well.


Admittedly it was semi off-topic, but it left me trying to visualize the buying power of such wealth.

Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
Hav0k.
Posted - 2011.04.13 13:27:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: cyndrogen
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
Also, why aren't you counting assets?

Yeah, not counting assets is a big no-no.
I'm just a mere speck compared to the likes of Entity and such, even if they had much less liquid ISK at any given time.


Assets are not ISK directly, I simply want to know what the "CLAIM" on value is from players, ISK in itself has no value it is simply a CLAIM on value.


What do you mean a "claim" on value? Why is it relevant as a measure of wealth? The OP question is who is the "richest" person in EVE. Wealth always includes assets.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.13 13:51:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
Originally by: cyndrogen
Assets are not ISK directly, I simply want to know what the "CLAIM" on value is from players, ISK in itself has no value it is simply a CLAIM on value.

What do you mean a "claim" on value? Why is it relevant as a measure of wealth? The OP question is who is the "richest" person in EVE. Wealth always includes assets.

Well, to be fair, you just quoted the OP, and you ignored what he said in the OP text. Smile
He specifically asked for the largest wallet.
Sure, if you only consider the thread title (or even just his final line of text), you'd have a point, and I too agree that assets should be included in a valuation of "who is rich"... afterall, I seriously doubt Bill Gates' wealth (by the way, no longer #1 nowadays) is pure bank account value.
Wink

Loney
CyberDyne R-D
Posted - 2011.04.13 17:16:00 - [54]
 

Wallets ISK level is not an accurate measurement to determine a "who is richest" status. My wallet varies in the months and currently there is about 290b last moth there was 460b and next week might only be 35b. You have to consider Market orders, Hanger Stockpiles, BPO Assets, Etc to get a more accurate number!

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.04.14 08:06:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Loney
Wallets ISK level is not an accurate measurement to determine a "who is richest" status. My wallet varies in the months and currently there is about 290b last moth there was 460b and next week might only be 35b. You have to consider Market orders, Hanger Stockpiles, BPO Assets, Etc to get a more accurate number!


Hey, you're that guy that scammed ages ago / made an auditor boo-boo, and posted in pink!

Tryce Jaor
Posted - 2011.04.14 13:39:00 - [56]
 

anybody feeling philanthropic? give me money

Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
Posted - 2011.04.14 13:40:00 - [57]
 

I'm rich in love. That is more important than ISK alone.

Roelof Kremer
Posted - 2011.04.14 13:52:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Roelof Kremer on 14/04/2011 13:52:04
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
I'm rich in love. That is more important than ISK alone.


I will not give my cat away for all the ISK in the game. Becose i love my caT. Embarassed

Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
Posted - 2011.04.14 13:59:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Roelof Kremer
Edited by: Roelof Kremer on 14/04/2011 13:52:04
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
I'm rich in love. That is more important than ISK alone.


I will not give my cat away for all the ISK in the game. Becose i love my caT. Embarassed


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Eu Daimon
Gallente
Merchants of the Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.04.14 14:20:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Misty McGinnity
I'm rich in love. That is more important than ISK alone.


This made me laugh.

The wealthiest person in a game with fictional wealth must be the one with the greatest enjoyment of his time spent in that fictional world?!


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