open All Channels
seplocked Missions & Complexes
blankseplocked Level 5 Missions: Risk/Reward
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Author Topic

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.02 19:23:00 - [1]
 

Right then I am sick of level 4 missions that barely award any isk even with my agent standing at max and all my social skills at max.

So I have decided to head to Iges and do some level 5s there as its the closest system I can find. Dose anybody have any tips or pointer for a Dominix Tank like me?


Contralto
Rift Tech
Posted - 2011.04.02 20:01:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Contralto on 02/04/2011 20:02:40
I wouldn't advise trying a lvl V with a solo Domi, sure to end in pain!

Add at least a 2nd RR Domi (preferably a 3rd) and/or a logistics and you will have a better chance, Lots of Nuets so a single active tanker wont cut it.

If you have the skills a passive Rattlesnake is the way to go, one damage dealer will make for very slow completion times though.

If you end up in Iges you may as well add the agent in Uphallant which is next door, he pays 83k Lp's vs 74k for the one in Iges.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.02 20:10:00 - [3]
 

Yeah I dont think I am ready for level 5s. But I still need money... Crying or Very sad

Contralto
Rift Tech
Posted - 2011.04.02 20:17:00 - [4]
 

Since lvl V's were removed from hi sec, they are not really the solo money maker they used to be. You need to know the system/area very well and have plenty of dps to get in and out fast.

You would be better off looking at C2 WH's, thats if there are any empty ones left. C3's will stretch a solo Domi and C4's are harder than lvl V missions. Plenty of empty C4's if you can get a few Tengu's rounded up

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.02 20:45:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Contralto
Since lvl V's were removed from hi sec, they are not really the solo money maker they used to be. You need to know the system/area very well and have plenty of dps to get in and out fast.

You would be better off looking at C2 WH's, thats if there are any empty ones left. C3's will stretch a solo Domi and C4's are harder than lvl V missions. Plenty of empty C4's if you can get a few Tengu's rounded up


why how much money in each wormhole type? I dont even have skills for Hulk yet...

Contralto
Rift Tech
Posted - 2011.04.02 20:52:00 - [6]
 

I think its time you looked at buying Plex! and sticking with lvl 4's. good luck.

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.04.02 21:01:00 - [7]
 

level 4's in lowsec can pay well and can be easily done solo, but you need to learn how to survive in lowsec to run them. The latter is true for level 5s as well, as they too occur in lowsec.

If you really, really, really hate losing ships, then lowsec is a bad idea. But if you don't care that much and like making isk, lowsec rocks.

Also, there's exploration, which can also be done solo and can pay well (I hear).

Jullian Valdexron
Gallente
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.02 21:53:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Jullian Valdexron on 02/04/2011 22:01:41
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
level 4's in lowsec can pay well and can be easily done solo, but you need to learn how to survive in lowsec to run them. The latter is true for level 5s as well, as they too occur in lowsec.

If you really, really, really hate losing ships, then lowsec is a bad idea. But if you don't care that much and like making isk, lowsec rocks.

Also, there's exploration, which can also be done solo and can pay well (I hear).


Exploration is almost impossible to make money from unless your in a 0.5 system or lower.

Not to mention you need to be able to actually find anoms in the first place and the only way to do that is to find a system that is sparsely populated.

Burnharder
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:05:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Emperor Cheney
level 4's in lowsec can pay well and can be easily done solo, but you need to learn how to survive in lowsec to run them. The latter is true for level 5s as well, as they too occur in lowsec.

If you really, really, really hate losing ships, then lowsec is a bad idea. But if you don't care that much and like making isk, lowsec rocks.

Also, there's exploration, which can also be done solo and can pay well (I hear).


Trouble with low-sec is the time you spend docked up and not doing missions you could be running them in hi sec. The rewards are greater in high sec because of this.

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Jullian Valdexron
Edited by: Jullian Valdexron on 02/04/2011 22:01:41
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
level 4's in lowsec can pay well and can be easily done solo, but you need to learn how to survive in lowsec to run them. The latter is true for level 5s as well, as they too occur in lowsec.

If you really, really, really hate losing ships, then lowsec is a bad idea. But if you don't care that much and like making isk, lowsec rocks.

Also, there's exploration, which can also be done solo and can pay well (I hear).


Exploration is almost impossible to make money from unless your in a 0.5 system or lower.

Not to mention you need to be able to actually find anoms in the first place and the only way to do that is to find a system that is sparsely populated.



Protip: The real exploration doesn't involve anomalies.

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:07:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Burnharder
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
level 4's in lowsec can pay well and can be easily done solo, but you need to learn how to survive in lowsec to run them. The latter is true for level 5s as well, as they too occur in lowsec.

If you really, really, really hate losing ships, then lowsec is a bad idea. But if you don't care that much and like making isk, lowsec rocks.

Also, there's exploration, which can also be done solo and can pay well (I hear).


Trouble with low-sec is the time you spend docked up and not doing missions you could be running them in hi sec. The rewards are greater in high sec because of this.




Uhh... no? You don't need to dock up every time someone comes into the system. Learn how to watch D-scan and use a scouting alt (or get a fast aligning T3) and you'll be fine. Doesn't even need to be unprobable.

Jeter Pricecheck
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:14:00 - [12]
 

High sec exploration is nowhere near the payout of lvl 4s, even if you do the signatures and not the anomalies.

If you aren't making much at lvl 4's, you probably aren't ready for anything more difficult and should work on your skills and game knowledge before moving on to anything harder. My agent can pay around 4 million isk and 8400 LP in a 0.5 system with maxed social skills for the agent type. In addition to bounties this amounts to a good income.

Another option for you might be to try running incursions. You can join a fleet in a BC hull or better and make 10 million isk/site with sites being run in under 10 minutes. In the T1 Gallente lineup though the only ship I would want in my incursion fleet is a blaster Mega. Vindicator is awesome if you can fly that or a navy mega.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.03 00:10:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Xenuria on 03/04/2011 00:19:03
Originally by: Jeter Pricecheck
High sec exploration is nowhere near the payout of lvl 4s, even if you do the signatures and not the anomalies.

If you aren't making much at lvl 4's, you probably aren't ready for anything more difficult and should work on your skills and game knowledge before moving on to anything harder. My agent can pay around 4 million isk and 8400 LP in a 0.5 system with maxed social skills for the agent type. In addition to bounties this amounts to a good income.

Another option for you might be to try running incursions. You can join a fleet in a BC hull or better and make 10 million isk/site with sites being run in under 10 minutes. In the T1 Gallente lineup though the only ship I would want in my incursion fleet is a blaster Mega. Vindicator is awesome if you can fly that or a navy mega.


i will keep that in mind if an incursion happens anywhere near dodixy...

All things Considered I think i might just buy 6 plex with irl monies and sell them to make isk. Thats how I have mad my money in the past.


It seems the only sure fire way of making money in eve.

Cambarus
Malicious Destruction
War Against the Manifest
Posted - 2011.04.03 00:32:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Xenuria

i will keep that in mind if an incursion happens anywhere near dodixy...

All things Considered I think i might just buy 6 plex with irl monies and sell them to make isk. Thats how I have mad my money in the past.


It seems the only sure fire way of making money in eve.

If you want to run incursions, go to them, dont wait for them to come to you.
Also I made 2bil yesterday running incursions and I wasn't even trying :D

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.03 00:50:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Cambarus
Originally by: Xenuria

i will keep that in mind if an incursion happens anywhere near dodixy...

All things Considered I think i might just buy 6 plex with irl monies and sell them to make isk. Thats how I have mad my money in the past.


It seems the only sure fire way of making money in eve.

If you want to run incursions, go to them, dont wait for them to come to you.
Also I made 2bil yesterday running incursions and I wasn't even trying :D


OH REALLY? Then give me 1 billion so I can buy my slave omega.
But seriously Thats like the dude who said his domi could do 1k dps its nothing but an exaggeration.

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.04.03 01:22:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Xenuria

But seriously Thats like the dude who said his domi could do 1k dps its nothing but an exaggeration.


???

A blaster PVP domi does over 1k dps with good skills, and a shield PVE domi does likewise.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.03 01:29:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Xenuria

But seriously Thats like the dude who said his domi could do 1k dps its nothing but an exaggeration.


???

A blaster PVP domi does over 1k dps with good skills, and a shield PVE domi does likewise.


Actually no 427 dps is a more reasonable amount for a blaster domi.

Trust me I explained all this with EFT in another thread. Without drones there is no way to reach 1k dps with turrets alone on a dominix.

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.04.03 01:47:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Xenuria

But seriously Thats like the dude who said his domi could do 1k dps its nothing but an exaggeration.


???

A blaster PVP domi does over 1k dps with good skills, and a shield PVE domi does likewise.


Actually no 427 dps is a more reasonable amount for a blaster domi.

Trust me I explained all this with EFT in another thread. Without drones there is no way to reach 1k dps with turrets alone on a dominix.


Right, but what does that have to do with what you said? Why do drones not count?

Quote:
"But seriously Thats like the dude who said his domi could do 1k dps its nothing but an exaggeration."


This is all very confusing.

Cartheron Crust
Matari Exodus
Posted - 2011.04.03 03:22:00 - [19]
 

There is another level 5 agent next door in Uphallant aswell. Uphallant also has a Level 4 Q18 agent (and two lesser quality level 4 agents).

Safe travels in your Domi.))

Jeter Pricecheck
Posted - 2011.04.03 06:41:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Xenuria

i will keep that in mind if an incursion happens anywhere near dodixy...

You won't make any money doing that, they are too spread out. The people who make money on them wait until they spawn and then go to them.

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.04.03 10:05:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Xenuria

But seriously Thats like the dude who said his domi could do 1k dps its nothing but an exaggeration.


???

A blaster PVP domi does over 1k dps with good skills, and a shield PVE domi does likewise.


Actually no 427 dps is a more reasonable amount for a blaster domi.

Trust me I explained all this with EFT in another thread. Without drones there is no way to reach 1k dps with turrets alone on a dominix.



I agree completely! Carriers' DPS is entirely smartbombs as well. Drones don't count. Nyxes? Smartbombs. Smartbombs everywhere.

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.04.03 18:46:00 - [22]
 

Lvl5's are worth it if and only if you know how to survive in low sec and join a corp/alliance in an area with lvl5 agents. If you absolutely don't want to join a corp there, at least get mutual blue status and in their intel channel. However, I strongly suspect you don't know diddly about pvp or low sec survival, so it's probably a no go. Surviving in w-space is very similar, if you can't cut it in low you probably won't do too well out there either.

Of course, there is only one way to learn really, and that's the hard way. Find a nice lvl4 low sec agent in a reasonably calm area and start running them there. Ideally pick a system that also has lvl5 agents so it's a relatively painless step up as you already know the locals and such. Also bring some pvp ships and a prober. It will take some time and you will lose ships, but once you master the fine art of missioner ganking and avoiding it too, you'll be in good shape for wh's and lvl5's.

As for lvl5's, a solo domi will get crushed in any lvl5 I've run. So forget it. A typical lvl4 has around 300 incoming dps with proper aggro management, a lvl5 is rarely under 2k and can go up to 5-6k in some missions if you try to blitz them. A rattlesnake can run any of them (albeit slowly) and an XL shield boosted cap injected golem or vargur can run those that are light on neut towers (1 or 2 is manageable as long as they don't respawn, a cap xfer ship helps here too like the augoror). Any ungated mission can be run in a t2 fit carrier easily. Of these 4 ship options, the carrier is the cheapest. The BS hulls will require faction/deadspace gear to work safely. Fittings are also terribly tight on them, the golem/vargur were not intended to use an XL shield booster and a heavy cap booster (god forbid you put a speed mod on too).

The missions themselves are every bit as boring and grindy as lvl4's, so don't expect any fun after the initial excitement (ditto for sleepers). But the isk is very good. I do very little pve so I cherry pick my missions, my current agent (the worst lvl5 in all of eve I should add) pays me 72k LP per mission and a typical mission takes under 15 minutes including travel time. That's in addition to about 7-8M isk in reward and any bounties/loot (generally nothing since I blitz). With a very nominal 1k isk/lp, that works out to 80M per 15 minute mission. But as said, I'm cherry picking. I run batches of maybe 2 missions and then don't run them for a few days. Even so, I'm making enough to pay for 2 accounts via plex and still have enough left over to suicide a triage carrier and a handful of BS's in pvp a month. So I'm doing very well financially I think despite my lack of pve effort.

Mister Agreeable
Posted - 2011.04.03 20:28:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
Yeah I dont think I am ready for level 5s. But I still need money... Crying or Very sad


Hold Hydra for ransom. Oh wait, nvm.
Hold PL for ransom. Yeah. This.

Cambarus
Malicious Destruction
War Against the Manifest
Posted - 2011.04.03 20:53:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Cambarus
Originally by: Xenuria

i will keep that in mind if an incursion happens anywhere near dodixy...

All things Considered I think i might just buy 6 plex with irl monies and sell them to make isk. Thats how I have mad my money in the past.


It seems the only sure fire way of making money in eve.

If you want to run incursions, go to them, dont wait for them to come to you.
Also I made 2bil yesterday running incursions and I wasn't even trying :D


OH REALLY? Then give me 1 billion so I can buy my slave omega.
But seriously Thats like the dude who said his domi could do 1k dps its nothing but an exaggeration.
Actually it was an understatement. From 2011.04.01 at 19:00 to 2011.04.02 at 1900 my wallet went from 2.162 bil to 4.03 bil in raw isk, and I've got enough LP from this incursion for 6 1 run named capital mod BPCs ugh

Corvac
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.04.04 23:45:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Mister Agreeable
Originally by: Xenuria
Yeah I dont think I am ready for level 5s. But I still need money... Crying or Very sad


Hold Hydra for ransom. Oh wait, nvm.
Hold PL for ransom. Yeah. This.


Yeah this.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.05 02:10:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Mister Agreeable
Originally by: Xenuria
Yeah I dont think I am ready for level 5s. But I still need money... Crying or Very sad


Hold Hydra for ransom. Oh wait, nvm.
Hold PL for ransom. Yeah. This.


Yeah I made alot of money off of Hydra. But that money is gone now and I need more money...

But yes I think I might consider making use of my spies in PL.

Argosus
Waverunners
Posted - 2011.04.05 13:01:00 - [27]
 

ok... LVL 5's are totally doable on ur own. However, you will never be able to do them alone in a domi. i ran lvl 5's for about 3 weeks casually at the beginning of the year. I used an unprobeable legion and an unprobeable oneiros. The legion was buffer fit. I would warp in and get full agro then warp the logi in to start the reps. Because of the neut batteries i had to use remote eccm's to remain unprobebable. I found that the missions were very slow going doing them alone dual boxing and when new sp0rns (<-- filtered!?) appeared i had to warp the logi out to avoid the agro. In the end I talked a mate into having a break from his lvl 4's and joining me. He ran the same setup as me allowing us to keep all 4 ships in the pocket until the missions completion.

Neut towers have massive hp and killing them solo takes too long. 2 ships however makes life a lot easier. I would estimate that missions took us between 15 and 45 minutes to complete, however, some missions required you to travel about a lot. i had a 3 part drone mission which was spread out over 12 jumps. In 3 weeks casual play (2-4 nights a week) we notched up about a million LP each and made about 750m in bounty. (mission reward bonus does not increase from lvl 4's in line with the lp really, maybe something ccp needs to look at)

personally i would suggest sticking with lvl 4's. If you are grinding them you will make much more money than lvl 5's as you can do lvl 4's alone and very quickly. I believe someone made a post about the time taken to complete lvl 4 missions somewhere between 3 and 10 mins per mission leads for a nice amount of missions per hour.

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.04.05 15:14:00 - [28]
 

L5s are a great way to make reasonable isk very nonchalantly. To make decent cash in L4as you can't really do them in the same manner, you have to do a bunch of them, and pretty fast. Doing L5s whilst watching a movie, and barely paying attention wins.

Well, that was the case, until they were nerfed to low sec ;p

Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER
Monkey Circus
Posted - 2011.04.05 17:20:00 - [29]
 

One dedicated passive tank and 1-x Dominix with remote rep and damage.
Unless you really think that drones don't count as damage. In this case: lol.


 

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only