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Domo Frankunstein
Quiet.Storm
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.03.31 23:59:00 - [31]
 

Quote:
that I most likely know very good, since I am one of the top PvP pilots in this game
Thats funny, i have never seen your name mentioned anywhere in the PvP scene before =/.

I am willing to go out on a limb and say that the OP bought his account, lost his best ship for this crash....and is crying because he doesn't have the gaming experience to know how to earn back 2billion isk in a reasonable time frame.

P.S: This thread has the perfect amount of hate Cool

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.04.01 00:12:00 - [32]
 

Your poor, poor afterburner Cynabal.

Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.01 04:17:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Andrey
I am one of the top PvP pilots in this game....

No you're not.

Originally by: Andrey
i am professional software developer with almost 15 years in development

No you're not.

Domo Frankunstein
Quiet.Storm
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.04.01 05:50:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Ladie Scarlet
Originally by: Andrey
I am one of the top PvP pilots in this game....

No you're not.

Originally by: Andrey
i am professional software developer with almost 15 years in development

No you're not.
Was there really any doubt? lol

Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.04.01 05:50:00 - [35]
 

I lost 1b isk tengu because I wasn't paying attention.

CCP should reimburse me because if their game was more exciting I would've been paying attention.

SupaKudoRio
Posted - 2011.04.01 07:06:00 - [36]
 

Has the killmail been posted anywhere yet? I want to have a look. Laughing

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.01 07:28:00 - [37]
 

Legal robbery, best robbery !
You must not like taxes either Twisted Evil

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.04.01 08:04:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Andrey
Now, to most of the repliers, i will clarify: i am professional software developer with almost 15 years in development, and I did checked the issue, and i did found, that crash was caused by the CCP client exe. It was related to d3d handling, and the information is available in windows even logs.


As a professional software developer with 20 years experience, let me offer you this advice: submit a bug report.

Quote:
It clearly not my machine, but a program. In any case, CCP just being lazy and does not want to even try to check this issue. Better to lose customer. Well. Accomplished. - 3 my accounts, and -2 accounts of my friends are subtracted from your money flow, CCP.



Rage-quitting helps noone. Learn to control your temper, you will find the rest of your life will be easier to manage too. Learn to live with losses, and accept that this is, in the end, a game about loss and destruction of physical things. Make friends and nurture relationships, since that is all that is real.

Vinya Az'riel
Posted - 2011.04.01 08:19:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Has the killmail been posted anywhere yet? I want to have a look. Laughing


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12777986

Enjoy!

Hooch Flux
Caldari
Posted - 2011.04.01 09:02:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Andrey
but that i lost it because of the bug inside the CCP client application


Can you prove this to CCP with evidence? How do you know this isn't a driver error or a faulty .dll that was currupted by another piece of software on your machine.

CCP should not do anything unless you can do that. You need to prove that it is a bug within the client 100% before they should reimburse or else it would be open to so much abuse it would be silly...

Nebuch ad Netzar
Posted - 2011.04.01 11:49:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Andrey
Edited by: Andrey on 31/03/2011 07:43:25
Good job, CCP. loose customers instead of gaining them !



CCP are themselves removing thousands of customers in their campaign against customers who use bots. CCP are tough, they don't care about losing customers.

They can afford to reduce their income by tens of thousands of dollars a month and their investors won't even blink!

When it comes to you, the guy in the big chair at the quarterly financials meeting won't even see a blip on the graph. (He will be more focused on the huge dip where all the bots got accounts canceled...)

Cipher7
Posted - 2011.04.01 11:58:00 - [42]
 


1) Don't fly what you can't afford to lose

2) Sort your machine out, clients don't normally crash for most people

3) If they reimburse people readily, everybody will claim they "crashed"

4) In some cases they do reimburse, when they can prove it was server-side problem.

5) I think in general they should remove the reimbursement option and replace it with the text : "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose."

C7

Tea McBag
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.01 11:58:00 - [43]
 

...........
You are annoyed because CCP won't reimburse ........

You were in a system where there were people who could kill you.......... with 2B in ship+implants ........ without backup

and you're annoyed

can I have the rest of your stuff? you obviously don't understand how to use it

pro tip: jump clones (if you can't afford to lose your 2b clone+ship, go in something cheaper) clever man

Lost Greybeard
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.01 14:20:00 - [44]
 

I guess they should put "don't fly anything you can't afford to lose" in the EULA, since some people are too dumb to figure it out solely from being told such by another player roughly once every ten minutes.

Lord Ryan
Derailleurs
Posted - 2011.04.01 15:04:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Insert Your Name
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Originally by: Andrey



IBTpost


lol.

Also, I cba reading your post, but when was there ever a reimbursement policy in this game anyway? Assuming that's what you are on about. The logs never show anything, as we all know.


I think it's about who you know. Have a friend or 2 that seem to get every ship reimbursed. I on the other hand always get the "Our logs show nothing" even if the server cashes 2 seconds after I pop. "Our logs shows no unstability". RealLy I just spent 15 minutes on the forum with several hundred other people that got DCed and can't login.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.04.01 17:37:00 - [46]
 

Poasting in a 'Top PvPer' thread. YARRRR!!

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.01 17:49:00 - [47]
 

Quote:
As a professional software developer with 20 years experience, let me offer you this advice: submit a bug report.


I would, but The EvE client ate my boot.ini file.

Lol I just posted that because of all the people claiming that the client side of the program is the end users ultimate responsibility. Thats laughable.

Millie Clode
Amarr
Insert Cool Name Here
Posted - 2011.04.01 18:10:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Andrey
It seems, that after playing eve for 8 years, time to stop, because i am sure, that when next time client will crash and i will loose my last money or something else, CCP will also decline to return it.

Good job, CCP. loose customers instead of gaining them !



Why is it that all these whine threads now seem to involve people claiming to be 03s?

Face it, if you're an '03, if 2 billion is a massive enough loss for you to be unable to cover, you have seriously sucked at this game for an unfeasibly long time.

Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.04.01 18:12:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Horizonist on 01/04/2011 18:13:32
Wow, that is a lot of anger in only one thread.

OP, in the event you are trolling (and it looks like it, sorry to say), 10/10

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.04.01 18:46:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 01/04/2011 18:48:48
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Quote:
As a professional software developer with 20 years experience, let me offer you this advice: submit a bug report.


I would, but The EvE client ate my boot.ini file.

Lol I just posted that because of all the people claiming that the client side of the program is the end users ultimate responsibility. Thats laughable.


It is CCP's responsibility to help him get his client fully functional again, within reason.

It is not their responsibility to reimburse him for ship loss due to a bad sector on his hard drive, his internet connection choking on the **** he as downloading at the time, the virus he hasn't detected yet, the corrupt cache he has, the fan going out on his video card causing errors, or a million other things at the user end that CCP has no control over and is not responsible for.

As someone of his "cough" experience, he should not have to be told this.


Everything about this post screams "failed logoffski attempt".

Edit: By the way, it can't be legal robbery. None of it was your property to begin with. Wink

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.04.01 18:50:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Vinya Az'riel
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Has the killmail been posted anywhere yet? I want to have a look. Laughing


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12777986

Enjoy!
wow, great top pvp'er you are. specially on the part of using a named AB instead T2 that provides more speed.

Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2011.04.02 02:31:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Andrey
Now, to most of the repliers, i will clarify: i am professional software developer with almost 15 years in development, and I did checked the issue, and i did found, that crash was caused by the CCP client exe. It was related to d3d handling, and the information is available in windows even logs.


As a professional software developer with 20 years experience, let me offer you this advice: submit a bug report.



You know than anything more complicated that a typo in some mission text that you submit at this URL is filtered by some fanboy with an extra chromosome or two as unreproducible right? Those are the people that denied that desync existed even at the worst of it.

It has been shown many times than the forums were sadly a more efficient outlet to get stuff fixed... That's fubared for sure, but the sad truth... Why CCP chose to rely on volunteer of questionable competence for bug filtering I don't know, especially as they are a profitable company, or were last time they published their financials...

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2011.04.02 04:47:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Painpill
That issue you have is not on the server end, it is however your own Cache/settings which are corrupt the easy fix is : Go to C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE and delete the folder here this leaves you with a Fresh EvE client now start the game and presto no crashes when exiting warp

NOTE : Export your overview and save it in another location BEFORE doing this, as it will be as if you reinstalled the game

EDIT : The file path given is on Win7 btw


if only clearing the cache would fix client crashes Sad


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