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Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:23:00 - [181]
 

Edited by: Gallactica on 20/04/2011 18:25:06
Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Edited by: Princess Nexxala on 20/04/2011 17:44:19
Originally by: Gallactica
Shadows of The Federation will not sit by and watch our old friends I-Red fight alone - Wolfsbrigade, you have less than 24 hours until the start of your demise.

Drivel



You sir really need to make sure you know what your talking about before making yourself look like a bit of the village idiot of Heyd.

We have no standings with Wolfsbrigade from the second we rejoined the Gallente militia, they are war targets plain and simple.

You seem to have a fixation wanting to start bad blood between our currently allied corporations, i cant seem to think of any other reason for your post. If you would like to check the current ship destruction notifications you will see they are littered with my pilots wrath towards them and also loss notifications where my members have lost ships to them.

I will be speaking to your corporation leadership for a public apology for these accusations.

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:32:00 - [182]
 

There seems to be no denying by anybody in SoTF that they were, as Princess Nexxala posted, blue to Wolfsbrigade before SoTF re-entered the Federation Militia.

Otherwise, I, personally, will take SoTF at their word (you've earned it Gallactica) until proven otherwise.

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:40:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: X Gallentius
There seems to be no denying by anybody in SoTF that they were, as Princess Nexxala posted, blue to Wolfsbrigade before SoTF re-entered the Federation Militia.

Otherwise, I, personally, will take SoTF at their word (you've earned it Gallactica) until proven otherwise.


Thank you and vice versa we have a mutual respect X Gallentius.

I have not denied that we have had previous standings with Wolfsbrigade prior to us returning to fight for the Federation. But as i posted in this communication upon our return to this war they are targets pure and simple. And having your corp member publically say that he would like to have agression towards us makes me question his motives.

Princess Nexxala
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:49:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: Gallactica
Edited by: Gallactica on 20/04/2011 18:25:06
Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Edited by: Princess Nexxala on 20/04/2011 17:44:19
Originally by: Gallactica
Shadows of The Federation will not sit by and watch our old friends I-Red fight alone - Wolfsbrigade, you have less than 24 hours until the start of your demise.

Drivel



You sir really need to make sure you know what your talking about before making yourself look like a bit of the village idiot of Heyd.

We have no standings with Wolfsbrigade from the second we rejoined the Gallente militia, they are war targets plain and simple.

You seem to have a fixation wanting to start bad blood between our currently allied corporations, i cant seem to think of any other reason for your post. If you would like to check the current ship destruction notifications you will see they are littered with my pilots wrath towards them and also loss notifications where my members have lost ships to them.

I will be speaking to your corporation leadership for a public apology for these accusations.


Check your own killboard, the blue op did in fact happen. I find it hard to believe you have no idea what your pilots are doing. Local logs will be posted later when I am able. The pilot who threatened to engage us was Tekitha. Which I am sure he would freely admit if you only asked him.

I honestly couldn't care if you participated in a blue op with wolfsbrigade. However YOUR pilots threatened QCATS. Yet all you can do throw immature insults toward me....sad really.



Princess Nexxala
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:51:00 - [185]
 

Edited by: Princess Nexxala on 20/04/2011 18:53:13
Originally by: Gallactica
Originally by: X Gallentius
There seems to be no denying by anybody in SoTF that they were, as Princess Nexxala posted, blue to Wolfsbrigade before SoTF re-entered the Federation Militia.

Otherwise, I, personally, will take SoTF at their word (you've earned it Gallactica) until proven otherwise.


Thank you and vice versa we have a mutual respect X Gallentius.

I have not denied that we have had previous standings with Wolfsbrigade prior to us returning to fight for the Federation. But as i posted in this communication upon our return to this war they are targets pure and simple. And having your corp member publically say that he would like to have agression towards us makes me question his motives.


No I am not wishing for aggression, I personally just don't really care about the matter. But when SOTF threatens to engage QCATS...I do care, a great deal in fact.


Also be advised I DO NOT speak for QCATS leadership and have not consulted with them on this matter. I speak my mind as any free Gallente can and should.

Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:54:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Edited by: Princess Nexxala on 20/04/2011 18:53:13
Originally by: Gallactica
Originally by: X Gallentius
There seems to be no denying by anybody in SoTF that they were, as Princess Nexxala posted, blue to Wolfsbrigade before SoTF re-entered the Federation Militia.

Otherwise, I, personally, will take SoTF at their word (you've earned it Gallactica) until proven otherwise.


Thank you and vice versa we have a mutual respect X Gallentius.

I have not denied that we have had previous standings with Wolfsbrigade prior to us returning to fight for the Federation. But as i posted in this communication upon our return to this war they are targets pure and simple. And having your corp member publically say that he would like to have agression towards us makes me question his motives.


No I am not wishing for aggression, I personally just don't really care about the matter. But when SOTF threatens to engage QCATS...I do care, a great deal in fact.


Also be advised I DO NOT speak for QCATS leadership and have not consulted with them on this matter. I speak my mind as any free Gallente can and should.


Oh well, Tekitha was probably just speaking his mind as any free gallente can and should too Cool

Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:03:00 - [187]
 

I blame Crimper!

LizzardCUT
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:04:00 - [188]
 

Fed Navy drones for sale cheap one

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:06:00 - [189]
 

You will also notice an I-Red pilot on that information too.

There are situations where a temporary ceasefire is called on if there is a particular operation that is being run, we have and so have your corporation had joint operations with the Caldari to eliminate pirate threats.

Did you receive actual agression? or was it just a threat to make sure there were no incidents where blues would be shooting each other?

Jay'hawk Blackstern
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:06:00 - [190]
 

Edited by: Jay''hawk Blackstern on 20/04/2011 19:07:39
I usually just duct-tape exotic dancers to my drones, (they jiggle around rather erratically that way) does that make them "Fed navy drones"?

Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:14:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Princess Nexxala

Local logs will be posted later when I am able. The pilot who threatened to engage us was Tekitha. Which I am sure he would freely admit if you only asked him.




IC:

my words were more of a warning than a threat ...

Tekitha > we have temp blue with squids btw
Tekitha > u shoot them we shoot u

it is only natural that I shall protect my fleet mates with vigorous fervour.

Furthermore I shall make my allegiences where I please and when I take pilots into my fleet they will be afforded the same protection regardless of their background or affiliation. This includes me returning fire on any member of any militia or other group who may decide to use agressive means to jeapordise the objectives of my fleet.

Thank you

OOC:

ehm ... why am I in a RP thread, ugh

/facepalm

Dev trade ot1on
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:16:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Tekitha
Originally by: Princess Nexxala

Local logs will be posted later when I am able. The pilot who threatened to engage us was Tekitha. Which I am sure he would freely admit if you only asked him.




IC:

my words were more of a warning than a threat ...

Tekitha > we have temp blue with squids btw
Tekitha > u shoot them we shoot u

it is only natural that I shall protect my fleet mates with vigorous fervour.

Furthermore I shall make my allegiences where I please and when I take pilots into my fleet they will be afforded the same protection regardless of their background or affiliation. This includes me returning fire on any member of any militia or other group who may decide to use agressive means to jeapordise the objectives of my fleet.

Thank you

OOC:

ehm ... why am I in a RP thread, ugh

/facepalm


You are a traiter to the federation tekitha.


vagy
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:19:00 - [193]
 

traiter **** YARRRR!!

Princess Nexxala
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:23:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Gallactica
You will also notice an I-Red pilot on that information too.

There are situations where a temporary ceasefire is called on if there is a particular operation that is being run, we have and so have your corporation had joint operations with the Caldari to eliminate pirate threats.

Did you receive actual agression? or was it just a threat to make sure there were no incidents where blues would be shooting each other?


Of course there was no actual aggression. My pilots are skilled enough to out maneuver an armor BS/T3 fleet. We engaged and destroyed one of your blue Falcons and then disengaged when the SOTF fleet appeared to move into position to engage us. If I was looking for a fight or to cause some sort of diplomatic issue I would of ordered my group to continue engaging. I disengaged to avoid exactly that.



Rodney Crittendon
Caldari
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 20:10:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: Tekitha


Tekitha > we have temp blue with squids btw
Tekitha > u shoot them we shoot u




So, when does this expire?

Tekitha, does this mean if a squid war target is on grid, and you are too, that I should assume you are going to attack me if I attack the enemies of the Federation?

I am confused by this. I just want to help the Federation by engaging it's enemies, but am now not sure who those are.

Are you fighting for the Gallente full time or part time?
If part time, please list the times/days that you are not so I can be sure who my valid targets are.

Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2011.04.20 21:02:00 - [196]
 

Has Qcats never made these temporary arrangements?

Since your pilots are skilled enough to manoeuvre around our fleet and Princess Nexalla apparently knows who we've got blue I'm not sure it's that ambiguous a situation to parse.

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2011.04.20 21:10:00 - [197]
 

Following on from Annie's comments - as you well know rodney we have had these arrangements when the situation arises on numerous occasions including with members of your Corp, I'm sure a number of people in your Corp can vouch this too including ex members of my Corp and yours.

Have we ever had an issue in the past? No, so why would there be an issue now unless you are looking for one.

Andre Vauban
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 21:25:00 - [198]
 

Edited by: Andre Vauban on 20/04/2011 21:27:12
Originally by: Annie Anomie
Has Qcats never made these temporary arrangements?

Since your pilots are skilled enough to manoeuvre around our fleet and Princess Nexalla apparently knows who we've got blue I'm not sure it's that ambiguous a situation to parse.


Originally by: Gallactica
Following on from Annie's comments - as you well know rodney we have had these arrangements when the situation arises on numerous occasions including with members of your Corp, I'm sure a number of people in your Corp can vouch this too including ex members of my Corp and yours.

Have we ever had an issue in the past? No, so why would there be an issue now unless you are looking for one.


QCATS, let's not let this miscommunication get even more out of hand.

Yes, QCATS temp blues the squids to fight pirates. However, this all stemmed from MASSIVE lack of communication. Normally, we're all in the same intel channels so we can tell each other WHY we are doing it. The problem was last night this was communicated via local chat, then "telephoned" around, and most people were going off third or fourth hand information. Was SOTF and W-BR going to go after I-RED who had a large fleet in Fliet at the time? Were they going after Invicta who also had a large fleet around Heyd/Indreg? Where the squids really blue with SOTF or was Tek just joking around?

Can't we all get along? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

EDIT: Didn't somebody mention naked hugs?

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2011.04.20 21:56:00 - [199]
 

^^ and common sense prevails!

Being accused of being a liar etc will generate a response especially when probably 99% of your Corp know me personally and know my ways.

Once the accusation of what he said isnt a good basis for friends.

Rodney Crittendon
Caldari
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 21:57:00 - [200]
 

Hey, I am just trying to make sense out of this.

Tek did not say WHICH squids he was blue with or for how long. (I know it says temp, but that is a bit ambiguous.)

From his own post it looks to me to be ALL squids and that does not compute.


Ender Sparrow
Posted - 2011.04.20 22:35:00 - [201]
 

Edited by: Ender Sparrow on 20/04/2011 22:35:34
Edited by: Ender Sparrow on 20/04/2011 22:35:14
Caldari MOA Transmission:


"Caldari MOA to Caldari Vessels, Intercepted the transmission. Everything okay out there?"





Ammon Dei
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 22:58:00 - [202]
 

UGH, Chatgris clean up Aisle 13.

Official response coming soon I would imagine. Both sides made some pretty big assumptions. And as with most arguments among friends this comes from a Lack of communication between entities with in the Gallente Militia.

This needs to be rectified ASAP. Enough with the musical intelligence channels. Enough with the EU intel channel and the US intel channel within the Gallente Militia. Most of this would have been fixed had both sides understood what was going on in the first place and communicated diplomatically. Instead of smacking in the local intel channel.

The official response from QCATS will be incoming shortly, as well as open dialog between both parties to follow along the diplomatic lines of communication.

Luminaire General Ammon Dei
QCATS

Princess Nexxala
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.20 23:05:00 - [203]
 

Gal, I simply posed a question...I made no accusations. I stated only facts. You responded with silly insults. I guess there is no discussing this with someone like yourself.Sad


Annie, Tek claimed all squids were blue. Silly as that sounds, that's exactly what he claimed. And again I must state we disengaged to avoid an issue once I learned of the blue standings.
My reference to your fleet was simply with the ships it had, it had no chance to engage us. It wasn't an insult at all...you guys have some damn fine pilots.



Greg6
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.21 01:38:00 - [204]
 

The truth is that in the final analysis too many folk on both sides don't want to have positive relations between SotF and the Heyd corps. If we worked as hard to get along as we do to fight we'd have nothing but hearts and flowers. Gee, Tek shows up in Heyd local and threatens to shoot anyone who does something he tells them not to? How could that generate anything but a positive response? And them PN jumps on the board and makes some inflammatory comments? Amazing that that didn't calm everyone down and make peace, isn't it?

Too many folk on both sides are too full of themselves, their RP, and their remembered grudges to actually move past anything. In short, they are spoiled children who can not drag their perspective out of their own navels and are convinced that only they understand what is going on while everyone on the other side is an egotist, unable to fit a ship, or so on. All while the asshattery is equally distributed.

Honestly, these are the relations that a good chunk of both groups want. Unless and until the grown ups in both groups start disciplining their own children, rather than point the fingers at the group of kids across the playground, we'll continue to ride these drama llamas. Which, I can only conclude, is just what some of us want, tbh....


Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2011.04.21 11:13:00 - [205]
 

As i have said on many occasions - My door is always open for anyone to contact me to ask a question or query anything, But PN, you didnt ask a question you accused me of being a liar or losing control of my corp which i will take personal offence to. If i didnt consider you guys friends we would already be at war.

Both Ammon Dei and Greg6 know me personally and also know how much work i put in trying to build relationships with you guys as allies and friends, if you would have at least spoken to me first or even them before communicating this on this channel this "bickering" would not have happened.

Bhramin
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2011.04.21 15:08:00 - [206]
 

I believe there to be greater threats to the Federtaion than the pilots who fight for the Calardi, these threats also pose a menance to the State and so those charged with protecting our two civilisations would be in folly to not stand together to meet these mutual threats. Many privately owned corporations can now compare thier power to the great navies of the Federation and the State and it is the threat from these corporations of which I speak. If the militia pilots of Heydilies prefer to defend the borders of Federation space, that is thier own perogative, however we will take the fight to the corporations who answer to no government.

Princess Nexxala
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.21 15:45:00 - [207]
 

Edited by: Princess Nexxala on 23/04/2011 19:24:02
Originally by: Gallactica
As i have said on many occasions - My door is always open for anyone to contact me to ask a question or query anything, But PN, you didnt ask a question you accused me of being a liar or losing control of my corp which i will take personal offence to. If i didnt consider you guys friends we would already be at war.



...

Diana Kim
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2011.04.22 10:43:00 - [208]
 

*runs from corner to corner of unfurnished captain quarters*

Emergency! Emergency! Enemies captures our thread!

*accidentally runs into unpowered glass screen and falls on her back*


JT133
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2011.04.23 02:01:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Gallactica
Edited by: Gallactica on 20/04/2011 18:25:06
Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Edited by: Princess Nexxala on 20/04/2011 17:44:19
Originally by: Gallactica
Shadows of The Federation will not sit by and watch our old friends I-Red fight alone - Wolfsbrigade, you have less than 24 hours until the start of your demise.

Drivel



You sir really need to make sure you know what your talking about before making yourself look like a bit of the village idiot of Heyd.

We have no standings with Wolfsbrigade from the second we rejoined the Gallente militia, they are war targets plain and simple.

You seem to have a fixation wanting to start bad blood between our currently allied corporations, i cant seem to think of any other reason for your post. If you would like to check the current ship destruction notifications you will see they are littered with my pilots wrath towards them and also loss notifications where my members have lost ships to them.

I will be speaking to your corporation leadership for a public apology for these accusations.


Confirming that Wolfsbrigade has no standings established with Shadows Of The Federation. On the contrary, we are in a state of war with them and employ whatever means necessary to terminate them.
As stated previously in this thread, at certain times, operations are put into effect that are mutually beneficial to both corporations. Do not assume that this means positive standings are in effect.

Princess Nexxala
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.23 19:23:00 - [210]
 

Edited by: Princess Nexxala on 23/04/2011 19:24:35
Originally by: JT133

Confirming that Wolfsbrigade has no standings established with Shadows Of The Federation. On the contrary, we are in a state of war with them and employ whatever means necessary to terminate them.
As stated previously in this thread, at certain times, operations are put into effect that are mutually beneficial to both corporations. Do not assume that this means positive standings are in effect.


How can you state such things when you run blue ops with them on a nightly basis? SOTF has also been repairing you while you are engaged with Gallente Militia.

The only thing you all are confirming is your inability to tell the truth.


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