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MeigsYan
Black Out Horizons
Posted - 2011.03.29 18:25:00 - [1]
 

For the L4 version I know that an Angel Diamond Tag is required to activate the gate and that other fleet members can use the gate for 10 seconds even if they don't have a tag. If each ship has a tag, they can activate the gate at any time.

If this is not correct so far, please stop me now.

OK, assuming the above is correct, here's what we want to try and do, with only ONE tag in our possession (we're cheap).

We want to be able to send our tanking Rattlesnake in, before the rest of the fleet, to get aggro. Would the following work?

The Tag holder (ship A) activates the gate and then stops warp, allowing the Tank (ship B) to activate the gate during the 10 second window. Once the Tank is in the Bonus Pocket and has aggro, the tag holder (ship A) once again activates the gate and all remaining ships enter the bonus pocket.

Thanks for your advice.

MeigsYan
Pilot, "Ship B"

caladoor
Posted - 2011.03.29 18:32:00 - [2]
 

The tags cost next to nothing why not just get another tag and make it easy on yourself?

Chubrub
CRYO STASIS
Posted - 2011.03.29 18:32:00 - [3]
 

yep, that tactic works perfectly, as you say just get the tag holder to activate and then stop his warp, let the rattlesnake jump in, then everyone follow shortly after.

however you should all make enough in bounties even if theres like 5 of you in fleet from a single AE4 to buy your own tag :P theyre only about 750k! :)

Natural Phen0mena
Posted - 2011.03.29 19:17:00 - [4]
 

Umm, if the Rattlesnake can tank the room, why not just let him finish it by himself?

It's not really hard enough to warrant a 'fleet'.

Zilabeth Vomarr
Posted - 2011.03.29 20:08:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Zilabeth Vomarr on 29/03/2011 20:09:53
Originally by: Chubrub
yep, that tactic works perfectly, as you say just get the tag holder to activate and then stop his warp, let the rattlesnake jump in, then everyone follow shortly after.

however you should all make enough in bounties even if theres like 5 of you in fleet from a single AE4 to buy your own tag :P theyre only about 750k! :)


I was curious about this as well so thanks also for the information about the cost of the Diamond tags. When I bought the one Ihave it was about 4M Isk


MeigsYan
Black Out Horizons
Posted - 2011.03.29 20:12:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Chubrub
yep, that tactic works perfectly, as you say just get the tag holder to activate and then stop his warp, let the rattlesnake jump in, then everyone follow shortly after.

however you should all make enough in bounties even if theres like 5 of you in fleet from a single AE4 to buy your own tag :P theyre only about 750k! :)


We remembered them as being more expensive as well. Last night we couldn't actually find any on the market, but if that price is correct, I'll look into getting everyone in the fleet one of their very own.

Cheers, and thanks for the information.

Flex Nebura
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.29 22:08:00 - [7]
 

yeah they are relativly cheap.

but you could be making money from selling the spares you would have if not using one on every ship...

But really its nice to know you can still get everyone in, if someone forgets their tag...

Iron Eater
Posted - 2011.03.31 08:18:00 - [8]
 

afaik a warp from an acceleration gate cannot be stopped.

Kaisi13
Minmatar
Broken Chains Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.31 08:40:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Iron Eater
afaik a warp from an acceleration gate cannot be stopped.


Yes it can be stopped, I have done so on many occasions. You just have to do it before the actual warp. i.e. while aligning with the gate.

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.03.31 12:46:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Iron Eater
afaik a warp from an acceleration gate cannot be stopped.


AFAIK you've never been acquainted with CTRL-Space. Jesus. Rolling Eyes

Iron Eater
Posted - 2011.03.31 18:07:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Iron Eater on 31/03/2011 18:08:34
More precisely: It doesn't work with FW mission entrance gates. That's why I assumed it might not work with ordinary mission gates either.

Batelle
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.03.31 22:39:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Bumblefck
Originally by: Iron Eater
afaik a warp from an acceleration gate cannot be stopped.


AFAIK you've never been acquainted with CTRL-Space. Jesus. Rolling Eyes


I'm familiar with it. I used it to check if I'd picked the right gates last time I tanked the maze. However it did not work when I was checking the final room. Did not work for a nighthawk buddy either.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.04.01 11:37:00 - [13]
 

I would give the Rattlesnake the diamond tag. Rattlesnake activates gate, five seconds later everyone else activates the gate. Just make sure your align time isn't five seconds faster than the Rattlesnake's.

The first ship to land on grid wil get all aggro.

Illectroculus Defined
No Bull Ships
Posted - 2011.04.01 18:45:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Natural Phen0mena
Umm, if the Rattlesnake can tank the room, why not just let him finish it by himself?

It's not really hard enough to warrant a 'fleet'.



Because the rattlesnake doesn't put out a huge amount of DPS, much better to get friends to deliver the DPS.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.04.02 00:27:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Illectroculus Defined
Originally by: Natural Phen0mena
Umm, if the Rattlesnake can tank the room, why not just let him finish it by himself?

It's not really hard enough to warrant a 'fleet'.



Because the rattlesnake doesn't put out a huge amount of DPS, much better to get friends to deliver the DPS.


I have done bonus room several times a year ago in an arty Maelstrom and meta 3 turrets, you don't really need *that* huge horse power to clean it.

ChiShen
Infinity Research
Posted - 2011.04.02 01:38:00 - [16]
 

Golem + nighthawk np


 

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