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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.29 00:27:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Herrring
If people get scammed, the scammers get praised.

This would make the everyday news so much more... colorful...


You reminded me of this: Linkage

Mary'venture
Caldari
Rage For Order
Nihil-Obstat
Posted - 2011.03.29 03:44:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Mary''venture on 29/03/2011 03:44:14
Originally by: Aethera Cura

So what else would happen if CCP governed a nation?



I would have a lot of dead bodies in my various trunks and garages?

Emiko Luan
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.29 04:16:00 - [33]
 

OP, things change when nobody can die :p There's a reason that assault has a lower penalty than murder. It's still bad but not as bad.

And yes, description of the bad parts of the developing world =p tbh if CCP was ruling those they'd be a lot better :)
At the end of the day, if you've paid off the police (wardecs) you're untouchable anyway. Except in rl you can wardec the newbie corp :p

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.03.29 04:24:00 - [34]
 

In a nation ruled by CCP:

- Drugs, prostitution and gambling would be totally legal, but only in certain designated areas whose placement followed no particular logic
- Concealed carry would be illegal, but open carry perfectly acceptable
- Police response would be unsurpassedly excellent in precisely half the country, and entirely nonexistent in the other half
- In areas with no police response, issues with criminals would be handled by whoever happened to walk by with a big gun when a public official needed something done
- You would have to commit at least a good serial killing spree before the police actually care, and initially they'd only give chase in city centres
- As long as you publicly informed the government and your intended victim at least 24 hours in advance, murder would be perfectly legal
- All governmental broadcasts would take the form of rap songs, experimental sports matches or sudden, non-sequitur advertisements for Iceland
- There would be a 5% Oveur tax on all alcoholic products (including paint thinner and Draino)
- Use of WoW would be punishable by instant death via orbital cannon

Cryxx
Minmatar
Intaki Armaments
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.03.29 06:38:00 - [35]
 

A 30min daily break all around...I could live with that!

Neoexecutor
Minmatar
Skynet Technologies
Posted - 2011.03.29 06:59:00 - [36]
 

You would have to use your younger brother/cousin/hired person to check whether it's safe to enter through the door to your apartment building.


Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.03.29 08:38:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 29/03/2011 08:39:11
- If you tried to exit your house right after entering it, some guy named Scottie will magically appear and hold you in the house for 15 seconds.
- If you wanted to stop someone from doing something, you would need to use jam: strawberry jam on homeless people, lemon flavoured jam on priests, plum jam on corporate workers and plum+vanilla mix on that hippie hedonist down the street. You could use, say strawberry jam on on a hippie, but it wouldn't be that effective.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.03.29 08:40:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
- Concealed carry would be illegal, but open carry perfectly acceptable

That would actually a pretty sensible policy in real-life too.
The former ever so subtly encourages gun-related violence, while the second should act as a pretty strong deterrent.
Twisted Evil

Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.03.29 08:53:00 - [39]
 

With this Faucet / Sink they call a player driven economy?

ZIMBABWE.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.03.29 08:59:00 - [40]
 

If CCP ruled:

- No matter how many trucks you'd drive into jewellers' stores to rob them, insurance companies would always pay out and insure your new truck;
- You can kill and many innocent people as you want, as long as you also kill some criminals it's ok;
- You can kill and many innocent people as you want, the police will just take and destroy your weapon as punishment;
- There's no prisons nor capital punishment;
- You can study as much and long as you want, you're only allowed to do 1 exam a month and you will pass anwyay;
- Professional car drivers can't drive around obstacles but bump into them multiple times;


Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:03:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
With this Faucet / Sink they call a player driven economy? ZIMBABWE.

Again, in reality, the "faucets and sinks for a universal currency" approach would actually be MORE STABLE in real life than the current system we have now, in which banks can effectively conjure up any form of currency out of thin air in ridiculously high amounts, and governments have lost all forms of control over the actual money supply.
In real-life, right now, we have a debt-centric money supply that depends on ever increasing amounts of loans being taken out in order to not have it all collapse under itself, with a mandatory built-in inflation thanks to the fact one has to always pay back more than they loaned. Runaway inflation can happen anywhere and at any time as soon as people lose confidence in the local currency and start preferring an alternative currency, and the local government steps in trying to avoid a figurative "run on the bank" as far as the local currency is concerned.
A sinks-and-faucets regulating agency operating with an universal currency and tweaking those sinks and faucets based on REAL economic growth would have a much better control over the money supply (or, better said, over the real value of money) and as such would be far more qualified to handle any inflationary tendencies.

Yes, I just said that the EVE economic model is superior to the current real-life economic model.
You may begin the futile flaming.

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:08:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Akita T

Yes, I just said that the EVE economic model is superior to the current real-life economic model.
You may begin the futile flaming.


Flaming?
Why? LaughingCool

Winters Chill
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:09:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Aethera Cura

ISK is not a "pretend currency," it is a real currency inside a digital world , not a fake one, a digital one. There is a difference.


Your wrong, ISK is not currency, nor is eve online a true digital world. Legally, the reason is a question of ownership. CCP 100% owns everything in eve and as a result eve is merely an entertainment service as defined by most countries who have laws on such matters. As soon as it becomes a virtual world all kinds of complicated real world tax issues creep in.

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:12:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 29/03/2011 09:13:33
Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 29/03/2011 09:12:40
If CCP Governed a nation, the economy would have massive bubbles (free moongoo anyone?)

Also, if farmers ever became prosperous, CCP would genetically engineer crops to yeild half the fruits in 80% of said crop land. This would be to encourage more fighting. It works in Darfur, it should work in a video game right?

Oh wait...people in Darfur can't cancel their subs.

Tasha Voronina
Caldari
Caldari Navy Reserve Force
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:12:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Akita T

Yes, I just said that the EVE economic model is superior to the current real-life economic model.
You may begin the futile flaming.


Oh, then it is quite clear why EVE is turning into a fully-blown player run scifi simulation. CCP are just testing how to best run "a" world. That's their long-term plan for world domination, take the economy over when it fails. :tinfoilhat:

Laughing

(Although I agree on the part where the EVE economic model is better than the current one we enjoy)

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:18:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 29/03/2011 09:20:40
Originally by: Miso Hawnee
If CCP Governed a nation, the economy would have massive bubbles (free moongoo anyone?)

As opposed to what ?
The Holland tulip mania nearly four centuries ago ?
The South Sea Company nearly three centuries ago ?
The dotcom bubble a decade ago ?
All the housing//realestate bubbles a couple of years ago ?
Laughing
Originally by: Miso Hawnee
Oh wait...people in Darfur can't cancel their subs.

They can, but you wouldn't like the method Twisted Evil

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:24:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 29/03/2011 09:20:40
Originally by: Miso Hawnee
If CCP Governed a nation, the economy would have massive bubbles (free moongoo anyone?)

As opposed to what ?
The Holland tulip mania nearly four centuries ago ?
The South Sea Company nearly three centuries ago ?
The dotcom bubble a decade ago ?
All the housing//realestate bubbles a couple of years ago ?
Laughing
Originally by: Miso Hawnee
Oh wait...people in Darfur can't cancel their subs.

They can, but you wouldn't like the method Twisted Evil


I was actually thinking of the dotcom boom when I wrote that ;)

Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:51:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
With this Faucet / Sink they call a player driven economy? ZIMBABWE.

Again, in reality, the "faucets and sinks for a universal currency" approach would actually be MORE STABLE in real life than the current system we have now, in which banks can effectively conjure up any form of currency out of thin air in ridiculously high amounts, and governments have lost all forms of control over the actual money supply.
In real-life, right now, we have a debt-centric money supply that depends on ever increasing amounts of loans being taken out in order to not have it all collapse under itself, with a mandatory built-in inflation thanks to the fact one has to always pay back more than they loaned. Runaway inflation can happen anywhere and at any time as soon as people lose confidence in the local currency and start preferring an alternative currency, and the local government steps in trying to avoid a figurative "run on the bank" as far as the local currency is concerned.
A sinks-and-faucets regulating agency operating with an universal currency and tweaking those sinks and faucets based on REAL economic growth would have a much better control over the money supply (or, better said, over the real value of money) and as such would be far more qualified to handle any inflationary tendencies.

Yes, I just said that the EVE economic model is superior to the current real-life economic model.
You may begin the futile flaming.


Well that's like your opinion man.

Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:54:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Gavjack Bunk on 29/03/2011 09:54:26
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Originally by: Akita T

Yes, I just said that the EVE economic model is superior to the current real-life economic model.
You may begin the futile flaming.


Flaming?
Why? LaughingCool


Opinions are srs bsns to some people I guess, especially if they think that there opinion is in fact a mirror of reality, and the only mirror that could possibly be, and there is no other opinion that could possibly have any value because it isn't theirs.

Hakkar'al Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:59:00 - [50]
 

We would have large gangs of respected business people, who from time to time change their trade and go out and kill rivals. Or who calls in their payed murderours to bring down the rivals home and offices and take their customers and land.


Hmmmm mmm

Eve is real? Shocked


Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.03.29 10:08:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 29/03/2011 10:09:59
If CCP governed a nation then:

-90% of the population would be alcoholics.
-Roads and buildings would be half finished and forgotten about. Only for them to move on to try and build new structures to try and drive tourism, only to suffer from the same fate.
-When getting on the highway or go into any crowded area your car would stall and you would not be able to control it for 20-30m at a time.
-Companies using robotic workers are allowed so long as the income stays in house and isn't spent outside of the CCP nation.
-The economy would be in a massive recession due to above point.
-Unemployment would be through the roof, which would be the main cause of point #1 and be caused by point #4.
-Crime would be main cause of death among citizens, and criminals would be generally accepted among society some even praised so long as they don't commit a crime within the city area.



Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.03.29 10:38:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Well that's like your opinion man.

So is yours.
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Opinions are srs bsns to some people I guess, especially if they think that there opinion is in fact a mirror of reality, and the only mirror that could possibly be, and there is no other opinion that could possibly have any value because it isn't theirs.


The value of opinions is not the same regardless of source, and even for the same source, they're not the same depending on subject.
For instance, the opinions of a highschool education housewife are certainly not equal to that of a respected mathematics professor at a good university... but then again, you can not assume one is better than the other before you hear the subject matter - if the opinions are about cooking, the housewife has more credence, but if the opinions are about the validity of some mathematical proof, you'd go with the professor.
You don't always get to know what each person's expertise level in anything might be, so you go with what you already found out about them - if you are reasonably certain they have almost no idea what the subject matter discussed entails but you do, you are OBVIOUSLY going to deride their opinion and consider it bunk by default.

Adrian Idaho
Posted - 2011.03.29 11:13:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Cairn Bolete
Originally by: Aethera Cura

- You would go to jail, for life, for participating in currency exchange.




That's not some wacky rule that CCP made up, it's the law.

THE LUUUHWWWW!!!

Gillaboo
Posted - 2011.03.29 11:23:00 - [54]
 

I think I saw PORTUGAL up for sale on EBAY...


Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.03.29 11:29:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Akita T

The value of opinions is not the same regardless of source, and even for the same source, they're not the same depending on subject.
For instance, the opinions of a highschool education housewife are certainly not equal to that of a respected mathematics professor at a good university...


Originally by: Akita T
Again, in reality,


Some people's opinions are expressed as facts. Usually at length in an appeal to authority.

Emiko Luan
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.29 13:49:00 - [56]
 

ITT we realise that eve is much closer to the real world than first expected :P
Some kind of developing country, but where noone can die :p

Space Wanderer
Posted - 2011.03.29 14:20:00 - [57]
 

Question

Are you guys trying to tell me that CCP does NOT govern iceland? I don't buy it....

Michelle Devereux
Posted - 2011.03.29 21:44:00 - [58]
 

I could drive around in my car with a tied-up exotic dancer in the trunk.
Oh wait, nvm.....


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