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Dum Dumb
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:13:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Dum Dumb on 27/03/2011 18:30:47
Edited by: Dum Dumb on 27/03/2011 18:28:58

Apparently I am talking about resistors, before people start talking about the big capacitors floating around the mobo again..In the centre of my mobo's cpu socket there is 25 little resistors. One of them is bent. Im 99.9% sure i should replace the mobo but I thought ide ask here first because I really dont want to wait a month to get a new one when ive waited 3 weeks to get the parts for the pc in the first place :(.

It is a asus p8p67 btw. Should I set the pc up and see if it runs and leave it at that or should I play it safe. I dont want it damaging my 2500k.

Thanks.

Edit: Here is a link showing what I am talking about, but it is not my mobo and this one is not damaged. Its a pretty large image so im sorry for that.
Linkage---- There is a little red circle around it

Haxfar Portlaind
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:15:00 - [2]
 

A damage on the mobo (motherboard) is very unlikely to damage the CPU.
Turn it on and see if it works. Usually a capacitor isn't a cap problem. Just don't try bend it back into shape, as that might make damage to the capacitor/mobo connection.

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:19:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Flynn Fetladral on 27/03/2011 17:18:43
Originally by: Dum Dumb
I have no idea what they are called but i think it is a capacitor.In the centre of my mobo's cpu socket there is 25 little capacitors. One of them is bent. Im 99.9% sure i should replace the mobo but I thought ide ask here first because I really dont want to wait a month to get a new one when ive waited 3 weeks to get the parts for the pc in the first place :(.

It is a asus p8p67 btw. Should I set the pc up and see if it runs and leave it at that or should I play it safe. I dont want it damaging my 2500k.

Thanks.


You can normally smell a blown capacitor, get your nose in the case. Also when you try to boot what happens? Do you hear any beeps? Or is it just dead?

Sickly Pentioner
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:34:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Sickly Pentioner on 27/03/2011 17:35:03
Sad Panda

Dum Dumb
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:39:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Dum Dumb on 27/03/2011 17:39:23
Everything is brand new, the mobo,psu cpu etc..I cant tell you if there is beeps or not because I dont want to go through the trouble of setting everything up frying my cpu and tearing everything down again :(

Why couldnt something useless be broken like the cd drive. This is so bloody depressing I jsut bought crysis 2 for the pc too and now I wont know what it is like for another 3-4 weeks :(

Edit: Sad faces for emphasis.

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:42:00 - [6]
 

A bent capacitor is perfectly normal. There is nothing wrong with it. Perhaps it was soldered on that way. It will not affect anything really, other than how it looks physically. It will work just fine.

Dum Dumb
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:45:00 - [7]
 

Even if it is right inside the cpu socket?

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:46:00 - [8]
 

Show us a picture, otherwise we can't help you.

Dum Dumb
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:57:00 - [9]
 

I have no way of taking a picture but this link http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2137361 will show you what I am talking about at least.

The little boxs are capacitors arent they from what I remember of physics.
The one on my motherboard is tilted so much that it is touching off the one beside it and only one side seems to be soldered to the motherboard the otherside seems to be floating.

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:04:00 - [10]
 

In this case you need to return it. The board will not work. I thought you're talking about the big cylinder capacitors which are often bent to one side to various degrees.

Dum Dumb
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:06:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Dum Dumb on 27/03/2011 18:06:20
Thats what I thought, what are the actually called so I can say it in my angry support message?

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:06:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Dum Dumb
I have no way of taking a picture but this link http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2137361 will show you what I am talking about at least.

The little boxs are capacitors arent they from what I remember of physics.
The one on my motherboard is tilted so much that it is touching off the one beside it and only one side seems to be soldered to the motherboard the otherside seems to be floating.


Without more information (pictures even) it's not really easy to give you advise other than send the board back and get a replacement. But a bent capacitor is normal on boards, does not mean it is broken. A popped capacitor smells and most of the time will leave black soot, if you've not even powered up the board then obviously it's not popped. If it has a manufacturing defect, then you can send it back.

Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:12:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Joe SMASH on 27/03/2011 18:14:22
Edited by: Joe SMASH on 27/03/2011 18:13:27
Originally by: Dum Dumb
I have no way of taking a picture but this link http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2137361 will show you what I am talking about at least.

The little boxs are capacitors arent they from what I remember of physics.
The one on my motherboard is tilted so much that it is touching off the one beside it and only one side seems to be soldered to the motherboard the otherside seems to be floating.


On LGA CPU sockets, it is normal for all the pins to be diagonal uniformly. This acts as a bit of a pushback when you install the CPU and insures a good fit/connection.

Did you buy the machine as parts? If so, build it and then see if there is something wrong. If you bought the machine whole and took it apart, you probably voided your warranty.

EDIT: Assuming the diagonal pins on the CPU socket is what you meant by "bent capacitors" (pins != capacitors, BTW). (Making the aaumption by the pics you linked.)

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:16:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Brock Nelson on 27/03/2011 18:15:59
Is this the mobo in question?
Linkage

Dum Dumb
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:19:00 - [15]
 

I bought the machine as parts. All of the capacitors/box things are aligned perfectly and nice and straight except for this one that is off to the side if I could get some reassurance that I wont damage my cpu trying to turn it on I would try it. I have posted an image at the top showing exactly what I am talking about because people seem to think I am talking about the big capacitors littered around the mobo.

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:21:00 - [16]
 

They are called resistors, but not sure. Don't waste time assembling it, it will not work if it is obviously not soldered properly, it will not work even if it is touching but not soldered. Send it back and tell them to send you a replacement asap.

Sickly Pentioner
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:21:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Brock Nelson
Edited by: Brock Nelson on 27/03/2011 18:15:59
Is this the mobo in question?
Linkage


I have the less fancy version. The basic P8P67

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2011.03.27 18:32:00 - [18]
 

Yeah if the resistors are damaged, send it back.

The caps are the round cylinders outside of the socket and all over the mobo. Typically, they will still work if its bent slightly but you'll know its damaged if its expanded (compared to other caps) and smells like its burning.

Iftama
Posted - 2011.03.27 19:16:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Iftama on 27/03/2011 19:58:05
If it's not soldered on correctly, which it sounds like it isn't, then send it back.

Originally by: Brock Nelson
The caps are the round cylinders outside of the socket and all over the mobo.

No, it's a capacitor all right. Not all caps are of the big cylindrical type.

Aurora Fire
Minmatar
RedBull Industries
FutureGen Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.27 19:35:00 - [20]
 

Just assembly all the stuff outside of PC case and see if Mobo will display POST. If it does, throw the stuff into a case and enjoy your new rig. If not send it to RMA as DOA (Dead on Arrival).
There is no way to damage anything else if Mobo is dead.

Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Convex Enterprises
Posted - 2011.03.27 19:39:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Haxfar Portlaind
A damage on the mobo (motherboard) is very unlikely to damage the CPU.
Turn it on and see if it works. Usually a capacitor isn't a cap problem. Just don't try bend it back into shape, as that might make damage to the capacitor/mobo connection.


horribly false. Consider what a resistor's job is. To resist electrical current. Its there for a reason. If a resistor is broken and providing bad power to the CPU, it can easily fry the CPU.

A damaged motherboard should be replaced. not only is it a fire hazard, but it also runs the risk of burning out other devices inside of your computer.

This is why the PSU is the absolute most important piece of any computer system. Dirty power / dying PSU can easily fry every single component in your computer.

Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2011.03.27 20:18:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Terminal Insanity
Originally by: Haxfar Portlaind
A damage on the mobo (motherboard) is very unlikely to damage the CPU.
Turn it on and see if it works. Usually a capacitor isn't a cap problem. Just don't try bend it back into shape, as that might make damage to the capacitor/mobo connection.


horribly false. Consider what a resistor's job is. To resist electrical current. Its there for a reason. If a resistor is broken and providing bad power to the CPU, it can easily fry the CPU.

A damaged motherboard should be replaced. not only is it a fire hazard, but it also runs the risk of burning out other devices inside of your computer.

This is why the PSU is the absolute most important piece of any computer system. Dirty power / dying PSU can easily fry every single component in your computer.


If you would know about about electronics you would also know that resistors are also used to "pull" the current (and voltage) up in order to make CMOS and other chips work.
And if that resistor happens to be loose it simply means that the main board isn't going to work as planned also considering how much power a CPU can draw it's the last thing that gets fried with a faulty PSU.
I've had several mainboards being damaged due to to PSU fault and not once have the processor been damaged, other weaker mainboard components and some graphics cards have been a different case however.

Emperor Salazar
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.27 20:34:00 - [23]
 

Sounds like a personal problem.


 

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