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CBBOMBERMAN
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:05:00 - [2431]
 

Quote:

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have just stated the base of dissenting arguments as succinctly as anyone, so lets talk about it.
  • The Rich Alliances are only gonna get richer - Not true. Renters aren't going to pay what they are paying now for lesser space. In fact, they may not want to pay anything for it. Renter corps will therefor defect from their non-agression / support pacts because it's just not worth it. This will reduce the size of great alliances, and have a negative impact on the number of available pilots and amount of resources available to them.

  • How is this gonna force out the bigger alliances (redacted)? - It's not. Those corps that no longer can afford to rent will covet the larger alliances space, and if those bigger alliances drop their guard for a second alliances that might otherwise have been renters will pounce on them like a fat kid on a cupcake.

  • Its the smaller and mid alliances that already have spent fortune in upgrading their systems and even then they still hav to deal with ho expensive its for them sov maintenance on top. - While it's true that those smaller alliances will suffer from reduced gains, I think greed will now motivate them to break from their now far less attractive non-aggression pacts and instead take what is "rightfully theirs". It's about reducing comfort zones, increasing paranoia and fear, and instigating conflict.



ofcource the large alliances ar gonna get richer. you were just told that the space ith the highest 0.0 number is going to get a buff while the lower is gonna get a neft. Thats simpl mathmatics there.
On the second point, how is it the smaller alliances are gonna take out these monster alliances? Are you mad? If they havent taken them out now that they have almost equal number for the sanctums, how is it you think they can afford to do so when they have less isk....Or are you suggesting we all go and buy plex to fund an invasion that can take several months?
On the third. You think you can take whats "rightfully yours" when you are outmatched in very sence of the way to these large coalitions alliances? You can sur pvp but you wont have th allet to found a campaign specially against a blob and all today restrictions with large numbers in system.
Obviously you think you can go and attack the NC by yourself with an alliance and think you will get even a portion of their space and somehow in vs a huge economy, and vs huge numbers and vs all time zone coverage? I think you need to think this throught more.
o7

UJust Lost TheGAME
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:07:00 - [2432]
 

I still think that this is a half assed way of dealing with inflation.


They should add more sinks. Fines, maybe? Isk fee to use Jump bridges? There are many possible ways to passively take isk out of the game.

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:08:00 - [2433]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: StuRyan

I remember housese being sold for average 120k now the same houses are being sold for 180K - thats evolution and thats inflation. Same thing has happened in eve.

You dont see someone interfering with that but what you do see is more help for those branded as first time buyers. that more like what should happeneing.


"Ok, so when StuRyan buys his first Ishtar..."

GTFO. GB2/WOW.


LOL nice mature reply.... if you can not grasp the concept of evolution and inflation your playing the wrong game and i invite you to GTFO and go play WOW

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:09:00 - [2434]
 

Originally by: StuRyan
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: StuRyan

I remember housese being sold for average 120k now the same houses are being sold for 180K - thats evolution and thats inflation. Same thing has happened in eve.

You dont see someone interfering with that but what you do see is more help for those branded as first time buyers. that more like what should happeneing.


"Ok, so when StuRyan buys his first Ishtar..."

GTFO. GB2/WOW.


LOL nice mature reply.... if you can not grasp the concept of evolution and inflation your playing the wrong game and i invite you to GTFO and go play WOW


You do realize I spent the last 80 pages explaining to you 0.0 noobs how the economy works?

-Liang

Davlin Thrace
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:11:00 - [2435]
 

Dear CCP

unfortunetly i only have time for a a short reply atm.. This disregard to ur customers is a disgrace and the only people who wont be affected by these changes are the "bots" and people running missions in Empire.. Why not nerf some of these instead? A vibrant and fun 0.0 will only be possible if there are possibilites of making isk for the avarage guy out there, by making new DED sites u help maybe 1 guy a day, the guy who probes it.. Sanctums are for every1, the other ****e ur applying wont be..

U fail in every regard on this update :(

Take ur head out of ur ass, please..

UJust Lost TheGAME
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:11:00 - [2436]
 

Originally by: CBBOMBERMAN
Quote:

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have just stated the base of dissenting arguments as succinctly as anyone, so lets talk about it.
  • The Rich Alliances are only gonna get richer - Not true. Renters aren't going to pay what they are paying now for lesser space. In fact, they may not want to pay anything for it. Renter corps will therefor defect from their non-agression / support pacts because it's just not worth it. This will reduce the size of great alliances, and have a negative impact on the number of available pilots and amount of resources available to them.

  • How is this gonna force out the bigger alliances (redacted)? - It's not. Those corps that no longer can afford to rent will covet the larger alliances space, and if those bigger alliances drop their guard for a second alliances that might otherwise have been renters will pounce on them like a fat kid on a cupcake.

  • Its the smaller and mid alliances that already have spent fortune in upgrading their systems and even then they still hav to deal with ho expensive its for them sov maintenance on top. - While it's true that those smaller alliances will suffer from reduced gains, I think greed will now motivate them to break from their now far less attractive non-aggression pacts and instead take what is "rightfully theirs". It's about reducing comfort zones, increasing paranoia and fear, and instigating conflict.



ofcource the large alliances ar gonna get richer. you were just told that the space ith the highest 0.0 number is going to get a buff while the lower is gonna get a neft. Thats simpl mathmatics there.
On the second point, how is it the smaller alliances are gonna take out these monster alliances? Are you mad? If they havent taken them out now that they have almost equal number for the sanctums, how is it you think they can afford to do so when they have less isk....Or are you suggesting we all go and buy plex to fund an invasion that can take several months?
On the third. You think you can take whats "rightfully yours" when you are outmatched in very sence of the way to these large coalitions alliances? You can sur pvp but you wont have th allet to found a campaign specially against a blob and all today restrictions with large numbers in system.
Obviously you think you can go and attack the NC by yourself with an alliance and think you will get even a portion of their space and somehow in vs a huge economy, and vs huge numbers and vs all time zone coverage? I think you need to think this throught more.
o7




Ya if you cant field a supercap fleet, you have almost no chance of getting ur hands on that space.


It makes me think if this is a way for the powers that be in Null sec to further secure their position.


Its a Conspiracy.

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:17:00 - [2437]
 

Edited by: StuRyan on 02/04/2011 22:21:51
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: StuRyan
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: StuRyan

I remember housese being sold for average 120k now the same houses are being sold for 180K - thats evolution and thats inflation. Same thing has happened in eve.

You dont see someone interfering with that but what you do see is more help for those branded as first time buyers. that more like what should happeneing.


"Ok, so when StuRyan buys his first Ishtar..."

GTFO. GB2/WOW.


LOL nice mature reply.... if you can not grasp the concept of evolution and inflation your playing the wrong game and i invite you to GTFO and go play WOW


You do realize I spent the last 80 pages explaining to you 0.0 noobs how the economy works?

-Liang


I understand perfectly how it works, try not to deflect away from the argument.

This change will hurt everyone and it will hurt those in crap space the most. depending on how you play the game some may live in 0.0 to carebear that means some may have a small NDI and in effect less to spend on ships. you would hope these people have quite a bit of time on their hands and can get to a truesec system. However if you are the average player that can not physically spend a long time playing the game and have Real life commitments then obviously your NDI is going to be a lot less if you plan to pay for the game via plex. Over the months things will reduce and hopefully the reduction in price of ships and equipment will be so new people coming into the game can afford said ships. However i thought the price of something dictated your emotional connection to that ship and if the hope is to reduce isk in the game then surely the chest beating felt when losing said ship is also reduced.

This has nothing to do with stimulating conflict, all you will get is people who plan to pay for the game joining alliances that have access to good true sec systems.

If isk sinks are the issue there are other avenues to take to reduce the amount of isk in the game and one of those is not by hurting the rewards of living in 0.0,. Infact i seem to remember that "conflict makes the economy go round" /me is looking forward to seeing how the economy is going to sink after this patch.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:24:00 - [2438]
 

Originally by: StuRyan
I understand perfectly how it works, try not to deflect away from the argument. ... However i thought the price of something dictated your emotional connection to that ship and if the hope is to reduce isk in the game then surely the chest beating felt when losing said ship is also reduced.


Wut.

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:31:00 - [2439]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: StuRyan
I understand perfectly how it works, try not to deflect away from the argument. ... However i thought the price of something dictated your emotional connection to that ship and if the hope is to reduce isk in the game then surely the chest beating felt when losing said ship is also reduced.


Wut.



try to bear with me. When interviewed people who play eve say whats the difference between this mmo and other mmo's the answer was "the feeling of having an emotional attachmentment to assets". in other words you work hard save up then buy and if some **** scraps my car im gonna be incredibly upset. But if the value of that is so low where is the emotional attachment. 55m used to be a lot of isk then it was 550m then it was 5.5b that is evolution that is why people play eve - it is the emotional attachment to the game. i thought you would have understood that?

omgdutch2005
Gallente
Advanced Planetary Exports
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:34:00 - [2440]
 

Are you too disgusted by the idea of getting rid of havens/sanctums in most if not all systems of IEGEX !! ?

If so -- http://www.petitiononline.com/ieg2011/petition.html - sign the petition now!

in case your wondering what it all is about... Read about it at: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=883 and http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487231&page=1

Vote now! Boost the systems, not NERF THEM!

Thank you

Omgdutch2005
IEGEX Alliance Director

UJust Lost TheGAME
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:37:00 - [2441]
 

Originally by: omgdutch2005
Are you too disgusted by the idea of getting rid of havens/sanctums in most if not all systems of IEGEX !! ?

If so -- http://www.petitiononline.com/ieg2011/petition.html - sign the petition now!

in case your wondering what it all is about... Read about it at: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=883 and http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487231&page=1

Vote now! Boost the systems, not NERF THEM!

Thank you

Omgdutch2005
IEGEX Alliance Director



And what exactly can this petition accomplish that an 80+ page thread can't?

Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:38:00 - [2442]
 

Originally by: CBBOMBERMAN

ofcource the large alliances ar gonna get richer. you were just told that the space ith the highest 0.0 number is going to get a buff while the lower is gonna get a neft. Thats simpl mathmatics there.
On the second point, how is it the smaller alliances are gonna take out these monster alliances? Are you mad? If they havent taken them out now that they have almost equal number for the sanctums, how is it you think they can afford to do so when they have less isk....Or are you suggesting we all go and buy plex to fund an invasion that can take several months?
On the third. You think you can take whats "rightfully yours" when you are outmatched in very sence of the way to these large coalitions alliances? You can sur pvp but you wont have th allet to found a campaign specially against a blob and all today restrictions with large numbers in system.
Obviously you think you can go and attack the NC by yourself with an alliance and think you will get even a portion of their space and somehow in vs a huge economy, and vs huge numbers and vs all time zone coverage? I think you need to think this throught more.
o7



Dang dude you can't even type. Well... maybe YOU will have trouble figuring it out, but a competent alliance leader will not. The larger alliance will become smaller because renters will defect. Read - the - post. K? Just read it. Then re-read it, instead of sputtering poorly thought out drivel. The Larger alliance will have more bang bang per capita, because yah they are now smaller (read: less mouths to feed means more isk for them on a pilot to pilot level) and making more (again, relatively speaking... they'll actually making less gross though since there are less pilots overall generating isk, and really complexes are but a small fraction of what any respectable alliance takes in), but from a macro level they will have lost numbers. This will encourage other former renters to band together to take them out. It'll be kind of democratic in that way, and keeping neighbors (at least most of them) happy will be of greater concern to those with power. Yes alliances in poorer space are going to have a tough time cracking a more powerful alliances shell. That's why the more powerful alliance is there... and why those other alliances even want it. That may require a coalition of some type be formed to take them out. They will not be attacking superior numbers with their coalition anymore since the coalitions will be made up of defectors. That pretty much addresses every concern in your lame post, G money. Just take a deep breath and use your noggin. You'll figure it out and perhaps be successful if your plotting and planning are on, or you will be unsuccessful if you pick and choose what to cognate as you seem to be doing with my post.

[:p

omgdutch2005
Gallente
Advanced Planetary Exports
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:38:00 - [2443]
 

Originally by: UJust Lost TheGAME
Originally by: omgdutch2005
Are you too disgusted by the idea of getting rid of havens/sanctums in most if not all systems of IEGEX !! ?

If so -- http://www.petitiononline.com/ieg2011/petition.html - sign the petition now!

in case your wondering what it all is about... Read about it at: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=883 and http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487231&page=1

Vote now! Boost the systems, not NERF THEM!

Thank you

Omgdutch2005
IEGEX Alliance Director



And what exactly can this petition accomplish that an 80+ page thread can't?



you can only vote 1x, and if you dont try its never gonna do stuff int he 1st place...

petition can be handed over to csm (maybe they can help)

Quartex
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:39:00 - [2444]
 


Nul sec should be where the end game is played.

It always has been. We used to fight for it to get the conquerable stations, access to the best mining, to the legendary Officer spawns, to chain the three bs npc spawn, then to build the capital ships right up to where we are now with the super moons and their glorious goo.

CCP have always wanted more players in nulsec. Alliances and space infrastructure has been the method to do it. Moon Goo and taxation provides the cash to help an Alliance keep its Corporations together and for them in turn to satisfy their pilots with free ships and organised PvP. Also to fund Jump bridges and jammers to help individual pilots and Fleets move about more easily. Clone jumps did a similar thing... what a Godsend.

We are all going to have to adapt to the changes coming in.

Alliances wanting to establish themselves in nulsec will find plenty of places to develop in and then work to form coalitions of Alliances that existing Alliances could not ignore. I have sympathy with the challenge of building a Cap Fleet significant enough to take down an existing nulsec Cap fleet but these things aren't static even if they seem so over the last year or two.

The established Alliances got where they are and have stayed there through more than their Cap Fleets alone.

My general plea for nulsec is to keep things dangerous. Individual pilots should be able to make more than in any Empire activity but the local channel should be removed. Moon goo is hard to bot, so should stay but belt rats should be beefed up, with the odd Sansha strength spawn to hurt botters. Worm holes should have been new space but with the same limitations, risks and rewards in play as today...this could still be changed. The current Alliances couldn't stretch to dominate this too and if they tried they'd be more open to attack elsewhere in their Empire. If that's impossible then bring in yet more space but make it hardwork and un-bottable, make it different.

Oh and Sansha's should degrade moon mining POS, to add to the challenge.

SingMi
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:50:00 - [2445]
 

Edited by: SingMi on 02/04/2011 22:59:22
I smell a rat...NC will be a powerbloc again... Anybody checked what systems are hit the least?

Suspicious eh?

I will be unsubscribing on my 4 accounts and EON magazine once this change goes through

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.04.02 22:52:00 - [2446]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 02/04/2011 22:53:05
Originally by: StuRyan

try to bear with me. When interviewed people who play eve say whats the difference between this mmo and other mmo's the answer was "the feeling of having an emotional attachmentment to assets". in other words you work hard save up then buy and if some **** scraps my car im gonna be incredibly upset. But if the value of that is so low where is the emotional attachment. 55m used to be a lot of isk then it was 550m then it was 5.5b that is evolution that is why people play eve - it is the emotional attachment to the game. i thought you would have understood that?



Ok, sure. But I think you'll find that there are lots of static costs, and lots of things that don't scale with inflation in the same way.

-Liang

Ed:
Originally by: Quartex
Nul sec should be where the end game is played.


Says who? 0.0 is one mindless blob after another - I'm not sure why anyone would consider that the end game of Eve.

LestaatLioncourt
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:01:00 - [2447]
 

Originally by: Gogela

Dang dude you can't even type. Well... maybe YOU will have trouble figuring it out, but a competent alliance leader will not. The larger alliance will become smaller because renters will defect. Read - the - post. K? Just read it. Then re-read it, instead of sputtering poorly thought out drivel. The Larger alliance will have more bang bang per capita, because yah they are now smaller (read: less mouths to feed means more isk for them on a pilot to pilot level) and making more (again, relatively speaking... they'll actually making less gross though since there are less pilots overall generating isk, and really complexes are but a small fraction of what any respectable alliance takes in), but from a macro level they will have lost numbers. This will encourage other former renters to band together to take them out. It'll be kind of democratic in that way, and keeping neighbors (at least most of them) happy will be of greater concern to those with power. Yes alliances in poorer space are going to have a tough time cracking a more powerful alliances shell. That's why the more powerful alliance is there... and why those other alliances even want it. That may require a coalition of some type be formed to take them out. They will not be attacking superior numbers with their coalition anymore since the coalitions will be made up of defectors. That pretty much addresses every concern in your lame post, G money. Just take a deep breath and use your noggin. You'll figure it out and perhaps be successful if your plotting and planning are on, or you will be unsuccessful if you pick and choose what to cognate as you seem to be doing with my post.

[:p


Yeah but the larger alliance will be with LESS pilots and there will be NO SMALL ALLIANCES at ALL cause of less incomes from null sec.
It's pretty simple to understand.

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:03:00 - [2448]
 

Edited by: StuRyan on 02/04/2011 23:07:48
Edited by: StuRyan on 02/04/2011 23:03:45
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: StuRyan

try to bear with me. When interviewed people who play eve say whats the difference between this mmo and other mmo's the answer was "the feeling of having an emotional attachmentment to assets". in other words you work hard save up then buy and if some **** scraps my car im gonna be incredibly upset. But if the value of that is so low where is the emotional attachment. 55m used to be a lot of isk then it was 550m then it was 5.5b that is evolution that is why people play eve - it is the emotional attachment to the game. i thought you would have understood that?



Ok, sure. But I think you'll find that there are lots of static costs, and lots of things that don't scale with inflation in the same way.

-Liang



So lets take a look at those. and a FYI are there not commodities in the real economy that don't scale inflation in the same way either? said static costs are the things that should be adjusted. e.g. a price for using JB's would be a perfect way to take isk out of the game. It also would be an incredibly easy way to increase conflict becuase people may use gates more instead of using the travel free JB. this is not saying take them away it is a way of saying impose a cost. Another one is to impose a cost of travelling from gate to gate stupid i know but if too much isk in the game is the issue that would help to reduce it. really more thought should go into this. NDI depending on how you play the game is going to hurt and it could get to the point where no one can afford to actually play the game. (not pay for it in game but actually play the game with the way ccp want us to)

David Barr
STR8NGE BREW
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:05:00 - [2449]
 

More importantly, will this show as a FWI spike?

Lost'In'Space
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:08:00 - [2450]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
I'm not sure why anyone would consider that the end game of Eve.


you think 1000 v 1000 and coming to COAD to ***** about lag not the end game?

Panizia
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:09:00 - [2451]
 

CCP to mistake the sov-system. ugh

CBBOMBERMAN
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:22:00 - [2452]
 

Originally by: Gogela

Dang dude you can't even type. Well... maybe YOU will have trouble figuring it out, but a competent alliance leader will not. The larger alliance will become smaller because renters will defect. Read - the - post. K? Just read it. Then re-read it, instead of sputtering poorly thought out drivel. The Larger alliance will have more bang bang per capita, because yah they are now smaller (read: less mouths to feed means more isk for them on a pilot to pilot level) and making more (again, relatively speaking... they'll actually making less gross though since there are less pilots overall generating isk, and really complexes are but a small fraction of what any respectable alliance takes in), but from a macro level they will have lost numbers. This will encourage other former renters to band together to take them out. It'll be kind of democratic in that way, and keeping neighbors (at least most of them) happy will be of greater concern to those with power. Yes alliances in poorer space are going to have a tough time cracking a more powerful alliances shell. That's why the more powerful alliance is there... and why those other alliances even want it. That may require a coalition of some type be formed to take them out. They will not be attacking superior numbers with their coalition anymore since the coalitions will be made up of defectors. That pretty much addresses every concern in your lame post, G money. Just take a deep breath and use your noggin. You'll figure it out and perhaps be successful if your plotting and planning are on, or you will be unsuccessful if you pick and choose what to cognate as you seem to be doing with my post.
[:p

Alliances become smaller? How can these big alliances become smaller hen they already on a huge amount of the 0.0 space? It certainly did not happen in the last patch where CCP in all their wisdom thought it would. So by filling up/faster isk making of the large alliances, you somehow expect that they are just gonna get rid of their numbers cos its would not be profitable for them. Just take a look at th sov map. Look at the large portions of space these coalitions hold. Do you think they are just gonna let go of people and leave them empty? Nonsence. One thing that eve has tought us, it that everything counts in this game. Large numbers, time span accross different time zones, supper caps all these count. You cant wage a war on all time zones with less people? Specially now days that wars are very time zone oriented. We have seen in th last invasion of the north huge campaings and this is with people with more or less the same isk income. How long it lasted? several months, at a cost of trillions for each side. At the end, what was the result? Basically very little was accompished cos the biggger alliances can hold the ground with supper caps.
Now all these smaller alliances. how many supper caps do you think they have? Better, how often they can afford to replace them?
Your finance doesnt add up and neither the idea of getting rid of large portions of people from these monstera alliances cos its counter productive specially when its timezone wars. Your whole idea is flaud. No offence. o7

Samurai Okie
Helljumpers
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:22:00 - [2453]
 

YOu might as well of rolled back the server to 2009 would have been less painful

Inappropriate remark removed. StevieSG

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:34:00 - [2454]
 

Originally by: Samurai Okie
YOu might as well of rolled back the server to 2009 would have been less painful

Inappropriate remark removed. StevieSG


Wow, really? Maybe you should take some meds/not take a game so seriously.

Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:37:00 - [2455]
 

Originally by: Erichk Knaar
Originally by: Samurai Okie
YOu might as well of rolled back the server to 2009 would have been less painful

Inappropriate remark removed. StevieSG


Wow, really? Maybe you should take some meds/not take a game so seriously.

Shocked

Yeah dude, that might be a bit harsh... for a computer game and all... bye the way... when's the next time your headed to Jita?YARRRR!!

UJust Lost TheGAME
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:47:00 - [2456]
 

Originally by: Erichk Knaar
Originally by: Samurai Okie
YOu might as well of rolled back the server to 2009 would have been less painful

Inappropriate remark removed. StevieSG


Wow, really? Maybe you should take some meds/not take a game so seriously.


I too would like some of these said meds.

BirdInfluenza
Posted - 2011.04.02 23:52:00 - [2457]
 

Where are the CSM to put a stop to this?

CraZyDudE2
Posted - 2011.04.03 00:15:00 - [2458]
 

Edited by: CraZyDudE2 on 03/04/2011 00:16:11
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Edited by: Liang Nuren on 02/04/2011 22:53:05
Originally by: StuRyan

try to bear with me. When interviewed people who play eve say whats the difference between this mmo and other mmo's the answer was "the feeling of having an emotional attachmentment to assets". in other words you work hard save up then buy and if some **** scraps my car im gonna be incredibly upset. But if the value of that is so low where is the emotional attachment. 55m used to be a lot of isk then it was 550m then it was 5.5b that is evolution that is why people play eve - it is the emotional attachment to the game. i thought you would have understood that?



Ok, sure. But I think you'll find that there are lots of static costs, and lots of things that don't scale with inflation in the same way.

-Liang

Ed:
Originally by: Quartex
Nul sec should be where the end game is played.


Says who? 0.0 is one mindless blob after another - I'm not sure why anyone would consider that the end game of Eve.


Wind ya kneck in Liang ! - So i take it you don't live in 0:0 ? so don't comment on it, This don't concern you so why try argue the toss with players that it does concern and will affect..
Stick to empire eh!

Goodbye

Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2011.04.03 00:23:00 - [2459]
 

Originally by: CraZyDudE2

Wind ya kneck in Liang ! - So i take it you don't live in 0:0 ? so don't comment on it, This don't concern you so why try argue the toss with players that it does concern and will affect..
Stick to empire eh!Goodbye


So by that reasoning, I guess there will be no more "move level 4's to lowsec/nullsec" bleats? Thought not....

Mordus Sith
Kickurass Industries
Posted - 2011.04.03 00:29:00 - [2460]
 

Originally by: CraZyDudE2
Edited by: CraZyDudE2 on 03/04/2011 00:16:11
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Edited by: Liang Nuren on 02/04/2011 22:53:05
Originally by: StuRyan

try to bear with me. When interviewed people who play eve say whats the difference between this mmo and other mmo's the answer was "the feeling of having an emotional attachmentment to assets". in other words you work hard save up then buy and if some **** scraps my car im gonna be incredibly upset. But if the value of that is so low where is the emotional attachment. 55m used to be a lot of isk then it was 550m then it was 5.5b that is evolution that is why people play eve - it is the emotional attachment to the game. i thought you would have understood that?



Ok, sure. But I think you'll find that there are lots of static costs, and lots of things that don't scale with inflation in the same way.

-Liang

Ed:
Originally by: Quartex
Nul sec should be where the end game is played.


Says who? 0.0 is one mindless blob after another - I'm not sure why anyone would consider that the end game of Eve.


Wind ya kneck in Liang ! - So i take it you don't live in 0:0 ? so don't comment on it, This don't concern you so why try argue the toss with players that it does concern and will affect..
Stick to empire eh!

Goodbye


and you are 0.0, according to your char details you're in an npc corp??


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