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TheSysX
Posted - 2011.03.24 08:27:00 - [1]
 

Hi fellow capsuleers,

Please offer any suggestions, remarks and/or rants Wink to the following setup.
Gratitude.

[Rattlesnake, Incursions 1.0]

Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array
Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher (Caldari Navy Cataclysm Cruise Missile)
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher (Caldari Navy Devastator Cruise Missile)
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher (Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile)
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher (Caldari Navy Wrath Cruise Missile)

BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Umbra' I White Noise ECM
Prototype ECCM I Gravimetric Sensor Cluster
2x Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender

Damage Control II
Federation Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy Armor EM Hardener
Federation Navy Armor Explosive Hardener
2x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Large Anti-Thermic Pump II
Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

5x Hammerhead II
5x Hobgoblin II
5x Ogre II
5x Garde II

Tub Chil
Posted - 2011.03.24 08:34:00 - [2]
 

1) if you want to jam sansha why don't you get a scorp?
2) why you need faction launchers on a ship that does frigate scale DPS with missiles?
3) where the hell exactly are you going to find bunch of noobs that will go plexing in a mixed tank gang?

Target Painter
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.03.24 09:05:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: TheSysX
Hi fellow capsuleers,

Please offer any suggestions, remarks and/or rants Wink to the following setup.



-If you want to armor tank and have a huge load of mids to play with get an Ishtar.
-Pick either armor or shield tanking.
-The Rattlesnake's excellent local tank is wasted on Incursions.

TheSysX
Posted - 2011.03.24 10:25:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: TheSysX on 24/03/2011 10:27:22
Originally by: Tub Chil
1) if you want to jam sansha why don't you get a scorp?
I like the paintjob of the Rattle and the extra lowslots
Originally by: Tub Chil
2) why you need faction launchers on a ship that does frigate scale DPS with missiles?
True .. just wanted a bit more bang and less cap use, but you are right.
Originally by: Tub Chil
3) where the hell exactly are you going to find bunch of noobs that will go plexing in a mixed tank gang?
You have no idea how many junior pilots want to join.

Thanks for your remarks.

TheSysX
Posted - 2011.03.24 10:29:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Target Painter

-If you want to armor tank and have a huge load of mids to play with get an Ishtar.
-Pick either armor or shield tanking.
-The Rattlesnake's excellent local tank is wasted on Incursions.

Humm .. oke I get the message. Would a Drake be more fitted to play with the sansha's ??

Alua Oresson
V I R I I
Posted - 2011.03.24 11:10:00 - [6]
 

Almost anything would be better than abusing a Rattlesnake in that manner. I believe that what you really want to do is either have a ship with a large buffer tank (armor OR shield, not both) with either a spider tank type setup or with multiple logistics providing repping support. Resists for your tank are quite essential.

You don't NEED a faction BS to run incursions. You can quite happily run with a normal, off the shelf BS. I'd highly recommend running with something more off the shelf until you get a good feel for how to properly fit a ship. What you posted isn't even near what you need. And yes, I could post a decent fit, but you still wouldn't get WHY it's fitted that way. That is the important thing, knowing WHY a module goes into a fit and how modules synergize with each other.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.03.24 11:14:00 - [7]
 

Incursions are meant to be run in *groups* and these *groups* need to do something called *teamwork*

Get some friends, pick one version of tank (shield/armor), get some T1 BSes and get RR/Logis and have a blast.

Instead of having a more expensive Domi, get 7-8 ships for all your friends to fly.

Batelle
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.03.24 15:08:00 - [8]
 

this is the worst thing I have ever seen

Phlyk
The VonBraun Institute
Posted - 2011.03.24 15:22:00 - [9]
 

6/10

Good Troll, you seem to have some people hooked!

Cy Bear
Posted - 2011.03.24 15:32:00 - [10]
 

how much did you pay on ebay for your char and stuffs? you should have asked seller to throw in a user's manual tooLaughing

Drexit
Posted - 2011.03.24 16:32:00 - [11]
 

128k ehp, 1008 dps, and tasty drone tracking for popping ?frigs?


[Rattlesnake, Incursions Shields]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Gravimetric Backup Array II
Damage Control II

Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II


Garde II x5

Isan'na
Malicious Destruction
Posted - 2011.03.24 17:50:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Drexit
128k ehp, 1008 dps, and tasty drone tracking for popping ?frigs?


[Rattlesnake, Incursions Shields]




Eh, TBH, a CNR does much better. In Vanguards, those torps will hit for nothing unless you're shooting the Deltoles in an OTA and in Assaults you won't have enough appreciable range even with javs to reliably hit the majority of the bs in some sites, which orbit around 55-60, let alone the snipers. The gardes do ok, provided you've got the target webbed and painted, but not well enough to make up the missile difference.

I mean, I could tinker and make it better, but since my point is "Don't use a rattler, there are better options"...

Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
Posted - 2011.03.24 17:59:00 - [13]
 

Navy Scorp would make more sense than a Rattler.

Drexit
Posted - 2011.03.24 18:01:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Isan'na
Originally by: Drexit
128k ehp, 1008 dps, and tasty drone tracking for popping ?frigs?


[Rattlesnake, Incursions Shields]




Eh, TBH, a CNR does much better. In Vanguards, those torps will hit for nothing unless you're shooting the Deltoles in an OTA and in Assaults you won't have enough appreciable range even with javs to reliably hit the majority of the bs in some sites, which orbit around 55-60, let alone the snipers. The gardes do ok, provided you've got the target webbed and painted, but not well enough to make up the missile difference.

I mean, I could tinker and make it better, but since my point is "Don't use a rattler, there are better options"...


Dunno, I don't fly missile ships :P Just eft'ing away!

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.03.25 12:02:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: TheSysX
[Rattlesnake, Incursions 1.0]



Keep going, buddy.

By version 8.2 you may have a version that lasts more than 30 seconds.

Also, HOLY **** that's bad.

None troll reply - if you can fly the rattler, you can fly a Domi. As sentry drones seem pretty impervious (largely) to Sansha aggro, the domi is a great ship for incursions. Just load a huge armor buffer and get those resists sky high (your logi will love you).

ECM will ensure that you're primary target. Don't bother unless you're a scorp and have already called reps.

If you are flying ECM (and most fleets have dropped ECM in favour of DPS ships by now..) then ANY racial specific jammer will do, tho supposedly people favour using white noise.

Webs and target painters in the mids, and all of a sudden you're an asset to your fleet, rather than a lead brick everyone is trying to keep alive.


 

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