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Posted - 2011.03.23 01:50:00 - [1]

Boredom with WoW brought me back to EVE after a LOOOOOONG hiatus -- last played in 2006. (Tragically, I wasn't training skills all that time.) I wasn't a super-expert player back then, my character has only 5.3M SP and I spent most of my time high-sec mining for a corp that apparently went away in my years of absence. I'm assuming my Cyclone, Covetor and Mammoth aren't that leet any more, but when I played, an Apoc was the bomb.

I've kinda paid attention to some extent over the years to what's been happening with EVE and I know the basics, but I was hoping to get some general input on what veterans here would say to somebody whose EVE experience was as long ago as mine, in a game that evolves both intentionally and unintentionally like no other.

Also open to suggestions on what I should be doing in terms of modernizing ships, loadouts, etc. in the modern EVE world. I'm also doing research on my own, but it's honestly harder to start from where I am than to simply be starting from scratch.


Merouk Baas
Posted - 2011.03.23 02:21:00 - [2]

Edited by: Merouk Baas on 23/03/2011 02:26:51

Do you still want to spend time mining in high sec?

For PVE, battleships are still the bomb, although there are alternative (quite a bit more expensive) in some HACs or the Tengu, that can push the same DPS and tanking capabilities.

PVP's been evolving... Alliance warfare is now about super-capital ships (which will take a while to train and gather the resources for), and the small-gang warfare often revolves around specialized T2 or T3 ships (because of their bonuses to ewar ranges or other special perks that no other ship has), although people are often limited by what they can afford to lose and will thus field cheaper ships too.

The game is driven by politics and scheming, as always. I hear it's also plagued by bots, and CCP is trying hard to show us they're doing lots of stuff for the game (they're even fixing the UI... slowly) in order to combat our expectations that they've dropped this old title to work on other games.

If you want to be competitive, support skills and the ability to fit T2 weaponry will take several months of training time (due to prerequisites), and then you can progress up a chain of ships for another few months. Or mix-and-match as you see fit.

EDIT: Rigs are relatively cheap, and a pretty good way to flesh out a ship; train for the ability to fit at least T1 versions. Overheating can be used in a pinch to get out of a sticky situation, but you need good keybinds so you can turn stuff on and off easily. Same for drone keybinds. Use EFT to play with ship fittings - there are too many ships in the game to figure them out in-game.

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2011.03.23 02:39:00 - [3]

Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 23/03/2011 04:14:36
If you read through the blogs and patch lists you'll get an idea of what's been done.

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Posted - 2011.03.23 02:43:00 - [4]

Do the tutorials. They've been rewritten from scratch, and will be a good way to get back in to the swing of things. It's hard to say exactly what changes will affect you or that you'll even notice, since it's impossible to know exactly what you were doing. As far as ships going obsolete, they don't really. The cyclone is still functional, but the hurricane is much more popular. The covetor and mammoth are quite good. Having the skills for the covetor means you've got about 3-4 hours of training to get a hulk (the best mining boat in the game.)

Really though, you've been out for long enough that I wouldn't worry about what you do and don't know and what has and hasn't changed, and basically start over with the tutorials. They'll give you the frigs you need to accomplish them, so if you really want, show up in a rifter or a rookie ship. f12 -> career agents and f12 -> tutorials -> first days -> crash course.

Smart Bomb
Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
Posted - 2011.03.23 03:49:00 - [5]

Dood we have the same storie, I played wow until I realized the grind was eating my soul so I came came back to my roots. I haven't played since 2006 as well cept I had a 19mill sp account. I had to relearn alot and adapt. Lost my raven an apoc to alliance change so their floating in a null sec station lol

I found a new great corp and now I'm a pos owner making profits while running lvl 4s in my newly built raven :)

Anyways toss me an eve mail if you need in game help, and join the help channel it helped me immensely. -SB

Aderata Nonkin
Posted - 2011.03.23 11:22:00 - [6]

It's great that people see reason and come back to this game. It has its problems and may be slow at times but presently it's the best sandbox you can play.

A lot of aspects of the game have changed since 2006; Redo the tutorial, read the ISK guide 3.0 and ask people questions in help/your corporation. These are fundamental steps you need to take in order to get back on the road.

Posted - 2011.03.23 14:10:00 - [7]

Thanks, folks. Appreciate the thoughtful responses.

Spit Chew
Posted - 2011.03.23 16:56:00 - [8]

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
It's great that people see reason and come back to this game. It has its problems and may be slow at times but presently it's the best sandbox you can play.

Pretty much true. I've had a few years put into most mmo's out there and I can say without question EVE is the only one that has enough open-ended content to keep someone playing for a long, long time.


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