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Harris Dawkins
Posted - 2011.03.22 20:47:00 - [1]
 

I've been out of eve a while (well, almost two years now) just loggin in to queue up skills and whatnot. Looking to get back into 0.0 life and pick up where I left off. I'm trained almost exclusively with gallente, but it seems like gallente is still pretty weak in the grand scheme of things. Should I start the short haul of training toward amarr ships now, or will I be ok going back into the deep with my trusty megathron?

Spit Chew
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.03.22 21:27:00 - [2]
 

I only visit 0.0 periodically, but from what I understand of major alliance killmails it's drake fleets and amarr online with a rather generous side of supercaps (supercarriers aka. motherships and titans). I'd start training for the slave ships if I were you. Amarr was my first race of choice and I never regretted it after flying the geddon.

VanNostrum
Posted - 2011.03.22 21:56:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: VanNostrum on 23/03/2011 21:06:36
it's now more like malestroms+tempests vs armor hacs vs drake blobs vs baddon fleets vs tengus+titans Razz
and many stealth bombers in between

i like where it is going, though it's definitely lacking gallente somewhere in there

Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.22 22:43:00 - [4]
 

Gallente carriers and supercaps are still very popular. If your heavily invested in gallente ships (and likely the drone skills that come with flying them) maybe look into training up to fly a thanatos and eventually a nyx.

subcap wise minmatar and amarr boats seem quite popular and the ubiquitous drake blobs of course

Harris Dawkins
Posted - 2011.03.22 23:54:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Harris Dawkins on 22/03/2011 23:55:17
Edited by: Harris Dawkins on 22/03/2011 23:55:02
Interesting... nope, not ever getting into the cap-ship game (If I ever get that urge i'll buy an alt to fly one) with this character.

Can't really tell which way is up by that description though. Amarr bs are familiar, and minmatar ships (I recall a rather generous projectile buff) make sense, but the drake and tengu?? Oddball there. I'd better trawl the old killboards and see what's up.

Edit: holy **** that's a lot of drakes

Eddie Stob4rt
Posted - 2011.03.23 00:14:00 - [6]
 

Maels are dead popular atm. **** knows why. They're p terrible. I'd train amarr. Either way gallente is fail.

Rakrist
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.23 00:25:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Eddie Stob4rt
Maels are dead popular atm. **** knows why.
It's because if you have enough high alpha artillery you can negate the effectiveness of repping on subcaps.

Spit Chew
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.03.23 00:30:00 - [8]
 

Projectiles online (with a side of heavy missiles and fighter bombers).

Glitch Enat
Posted - 2011.03.23 00:31:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Rakrist
Originally by: Eddie Stob4rt
Maels are dead popular atm. **** knows why.
It's because if you have enough high alpha artillery you can negate the effectiveness of repping on subcaps.


also when lag is on field and everyshot counts....you want the bigger hammer

HiRider
Macross Space Defense Squadron
The Conglomeration of Ill Advised Ideas
Posted - 2011.03.23 00:49:00 - [10]
 

#37: There is no "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload."
Schlock Mercenary, "The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries"

Glitch Enat
Posted - 2011.03.23 01:31:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: HiRider
#37: There is no "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload."
Schlock Mercenary, "The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries"


can i get the full list of those? :D

Harris Dawkins
Posted - 2011.03.23 02:12:00 - [12]
 

Quick question: how many damned motherships are in the game now?

Good lord. When I left the game those things were as rare as titans. Never saw more than a couple in the biggest fleet mails. Now i'm seeing... literally dozens. How the hell can the servers handle all those drones???

/awestruck

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.03.23 03:33:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Harris Dawkins
Quick question: how many damned motherships are in the game now?

Good lord. When I left the game those things were as rare as titans. Never saw more than a couple in the biggest fleet mails. Now i'm seeing... literally dozens. How the hell can the servers handle all those drones???

/awestruck


A ****-ton. Big fleet battles will now have 10-20 titans as well. As for the servers, they can't handle the load. Lag is king, thus the alpha-arty maels and abaddons.

Harris Dawkins
Posted - 2011.03.23 03:36:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Soldarius
Originally by: Harris Dawkins
Quick question: how many damned motherships are in the game now?

Good lord. When I left the game those things were as rare as titans. Never saw more than a couple in the biggest fleet mails. Now i'm seeing... literally dozens. How the hell can the servers handle all those drones???

/awestruck


A ****-ton. Big fleet battles will now have 10-20 titans as well. As for the servers, they can't handle the load. Lag is king, thus the alpha-arty maels and abaddons.


Bloody hell... not sure I want to go back to 0.0 now.

Target Painter
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.03.23 04:42:00 - [15]
 

Amarr Online is still alive and well in the form of AHACs (afterburning pulse Zealots, backed by Guardians and Damnations and a booster Loki), Hellcats (pulse Abaddons + Guards/Damns) and Alpha Abaddons (artillery Abaddons + suicide triage carriers).

Other than that Drake Armies (Drakes + Scimis/Vultures) were popular about three months back as a counter to AHACs, Arty Maelstroms are the new FOTM (alpha is king), some people are running around in fleets full of afterburning Tengus they call Thundercats, cats and dogs living together, total anarchy.

All because they can't wipe every non-BS off the field with a pair of well-executed doomsdays.

Originally by: Harris Dawkins
Quick question: how many damned motherships are in the game now?

Good lord. When I left the game those things were as rare as titans. Never saw more than a couple in the biggest fleet mails. Now i'm seeing... literally dozens. How the hell can the servers handle all those drones???

/awestruck


The NC and DRF has lost a combined total of somethign like 50 titans/supercarriers fighting over one of the ****tiest regions in the game (Geminate).

BRs include 100+ supercaps on both sides. There are literally thousands of supercarriers in the game now.

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2011.03.23 05:24:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Harris Dawkins
Originally by: Soldarius
Originally by: Harris Dawkins
Quick question: how many damned motherships are in the game now?

Good lord. When I left the game those things were as rare as titans. Never saw more than a couple in the biggest fleet mails. Now i'm seeing... literally dozens. How the hell can the servers handle all those drones???

/awestruck


A ****-ton. Big fleet battles will now have 10-20 titans as well. As for the servers, they can't handle the load. Lag is king, thus the alpha-arty maels and abaddons.
fun is in lowsec ...with random parasiting on nullsec blobs

Bloody hell... not sure I want to go back to 0.0 now.

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Posted - 2011.03.23 16:16:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Harris Dawkins

Bloody hell... not sure I want to go back to 0.0 now.


NPC 0.0 is actually pretty fun. Syndicate is generally 10-20 man gangs, give or take. ****-city truesec, but shooting rats isn't what I sub for. Dunno about you.

**** sovgames. Oh, and **** Drakes. Forever.

rodensteiner
Amarr
OMGROFLSTOMP
Posted - 2011.03.23 16:47:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Harris Dawkins


Edit: holy **** that's a lot of drakes


One of the more entertaining edits that I've seen in a while Laughing

Harris Dawkins
Posted - 2011.03.23 17:05:00 - [19]
 

Thousands of motherships... I don't even... ugh That's so wrong.

Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
Posted - 2011.03.23 17:54:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Harris Dawkins
Thousands of motherships... I don't even... ugh That's so wrong.


Give it some time and there will be thousands of Sansha supercarriers running around, too. Then they will introduce Blood Raider Titans or something.

Jaik7
Posted - 2011.03.23 18:59:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Harris Dawkins
Thousands of motherships... I don't even... ugh That's so wrong.


Give it some time and there will be thousands of Sansha supercarriers running around, too. Then they will introduce Blood Raider Titans or something.



it will happen a lot more slowly than the other supercaps. with other ships, they could use a bpo to make as many as they wanted and they could even copy the bpos to make more than one at the same time.

as i understand it, the Revenant only drops once in a while as a one run bpc, from a system of rat spawning which is relativly rare, we'll see them show up a lot slower.

Aglais
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.25 01:24:00 - [22]
 

Drakes Online, more like :/

Leksi Bar'zuk
Posted - 2011.03.25 03:10:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Aglais
Drakes Online, more like :/


Actually the new fotm (and it stomps drakes) is arty bs blobbage.

Captain Mung
Posted - 2011.03.25 06:56:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Eddie Stob4rt
Maels are dead popular atm. **** knows why. They're p terrible. I'd train amarr. Either way gallente is fail.


For shield fleets that can one shot alpha a carrier? herpity derp...

Angelcast
Posted - 2011.03.25 19:15:00 - [25]
 

Minmatar > Amarr

unless your gonna fit 1400mm arties on an abaddon. all the big 0.0 coalitions do is alpha fleets wether its a maelstrom or abaddon your still fitting 1400mm arties on it and insta popping carriers and BS's. Zealot is still probably the most popular HAC until people start doing kite fleets with cerbs and just start popping people out at 200km while the dictors keep the fleet tackled

KWyz
Posted - 2011.03.26 17:00:00 - [26]
 

Amen to that, the Cerb is sexy.

Lisbeth Lamagier
Posted - 2011.03.28 16:05:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Lisbeth Lamagier on 28/03/2011 16:06:52
Originally by: Glitch Enat
Originally by: HiRider
#37: There is no "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload."
Schlock Mercenary, "The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries"


can i get the full list of those? :D


Partial list.

rumncock
Posted - 2011.03.28 19:15:00 - [28]
 

so to sum up

roam type: pretty mixed, drakes, zealots, some of the t3's are fotm but it's not like vaga's are bad
blob bs type: artilery online, mostly maels but a decent amount of artidons too
cap size: motherships and more motherships, most of them nyx (gallente fotm wtf???) but also some aeons, with such mobile cap dps titans gets to come out and play as well.

Took a one year break myself and have to say it's a lot more mixed now which is nice. How anyone can train gallente exclusively is really beyond me though. It's not like training artillery is a big deal when you have all the gunnery support skills already..

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Posted - 2011.03.28 19:41:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: rumn****

cap size: motherships and more motherships, most of them nyx (gallente fotm wtf???)


Gallente has always had (arguably) the best capital hulls.

Miss Leatherpants
Posted - 2011.03.28 21:03:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: rumn****
so to sum up

Pretty much this. Artillery has completely taken over all but the poorest alliance fleets. Drakes are the cannon fodder.

Supercaps are their own beast. Regardless of what the sub-cap balance game looks like they'll be the deciders when it comes to sov. warfare.


 

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