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Posted - 2011.03.15 10:46:00 - [1]
 

CCP Hypnotic's newest dev blog announces Duality, our new test server specializing in events. Learn more about "Ducie" here.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.03.15 11:00:00 - [2]
 

Ooooo \o/

John Grimm
Amarr
Rendili StarDrive Yards
Posted - 2011.03.15 11:12:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: John Grimm on 15/03/2011 11:13:55
But how will ppl grief Mass Test now?

Edit: How does the Velt Don do it? He so quick!!!ugh

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.03.15 11:15:00 - [4]
 

he does it because of rss feeds. or other magic.

but more hardware \o/

Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention
Middle of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.03.15 11:37:00 - [5]
 

good change. should reduce patching chaos quite a bit.

Vuk Lau
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.03.15 11:48:00 - [6]
 

Nice move.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.15 12:08:00 - [7]
 

If you put a bit of time into sorting the market/combat mess on Sisi, you'd get many more manhours of regression testing from more people using it. Sort the market seeding (not just some faction ships, lack of faction ammo or cap boosters) and consider dedicating systems to ship classes for combat. Even if it's just beacons/rules rather than automatically enforced via killmails.

Cathrine Kenchov
Posted - 2011.03.15 12:41:00 - [8]
 

"Ducie"? I doubt it.

Knowing this community, it will be nicknamed "douche"

Good addition though. Cool

Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.03.15 12:44:00 - [9]
 

Anything that helps bring staggered releases and regular performance boosts without waiting for big expansions gets my appreciation...

Nice one there...

Salyan
Twilight Sparkle Fan Club
Posted - 2011.03.15 12:54:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Salyan on 15/03/2011 12:54:25
Um... I'm not so sure that this is going to work out too well.

It will mean that people will have to maintain yet another separate client version to run on this server, right? Not to mention that it will require the patches to be available well in advance in order to people to access it.

I think you are going to find that you will get a significant decrease in the number of testers willing to try out the events since they can't just fire up their usual singularity client to do so. The effort bar has been upped a bit.

Amarok Tonrar
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2011.03.15 13:05:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Salyan
Edited by: Salyan on 15/03/2011 12:54:25
Um... I'm not so sure that this is going to work out too well.

It will mean that people will have to maintain yet another separate client version to run on this server, right? Not to mention that it will require the patches to be available well in advance in order to people to access it.

I think you are going to find that you will get a significant decrease in the number of testers willing to try out the events since they can't just fire up their usual singularity client to do so. The effort bar has been upped a bit.


I have to agree with this. Unless it's a simple change of adding another icon to the desktop next to my singularity icon, with a change to the target path but pulling from the same files, then I don't really see you getting much involvement from the community.

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.03.15 13:42:00 - [12]
 

captain quarter will be on which one ?
as it will have a need for it in both long testing AND mass testing...

Mike deVoid
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.03.15 14:52:00 - [13]
 

Why no graph?

Spyke BlackIce
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.03.15 15:14:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Amarok Tonrar
Originally by: Salyan
Edited by: Salyan on 15/03/2011 12:54:25
Um... I'm not so sure that this is going to work out too well.

It will mean that people will have to maintain yet another separate client version to run on this server, right? Not to mention that it will require the patches to be available well in advance in order to people to access it.

I think you are going to find that you will get a significant decrease in the number of testers willing to try out the events since they can't just fire up their usual singularity client to do so. The effort bar has been upped a bit.


I have to agree with this. Unless it's a simple change of adding another icon to the desktop next to my singularity icon, with a change to the target path but pulling from the same files, then I don't really see you getting much involvement from the community.

Was thinking the same thing as I read the blog. The decrease is going to be quite noticeable I'd wager unless there are some significant incentives offered to set up yet another client.

Originally by: Mike deVoid
Why no graph?

Not even any pics or video of the birth. Shocked

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2011.03.15 15:19:00 - [15]
 

Minimizing variables, I dig it.

Elrianmk2
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.15 15:32:00 - [16]
 

I am hoping we can just run this with our existing Sing patch environment with minimal changes. My suppliers are getting concerned when i DL several gigs a month just to test stuff. i dont like it when they strangle the pitiful pipe i get out in the sticks Sad

Also, this going to enable proper failover from Node to node?

Chruker
Posted - 2011.03.15 17:53:00 - [17]
 

Have you totally forgotten Multiplicity? That was the 'previous' second test server :-)

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.15 18:31:00 - [18]
 

I demand that all events on Ducie be described as being "dropped on the duce"

Yes, I am that juvenile. Neutral

Domiko Keci
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.15 18:33:00 - [19]
 

We have Singularity, "SiSi"?

How about Duality, "DuSi"?

Just a thought. Question

Kieron VonDeux
Posted - 2011.03.15 19:49:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Domiko Keci
We have Singularity, "SiSi"?

How about Duality, "DuSi"?

Just a thought. Question


More like DuLi

Cresalle
Posted - 2011.03.15 21:46:00 - [21]
 

Good call, CCP.

However...

I reject your nickname and substitute my own.

Hence hereafter Duality shall ever be known as "DuDu".

Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
Posted - 2011.03.15 22:18:00 - [22]
 

I share the same concern about the willingness of players of creating and maintaining yet another client.
On top of that, I preferred to fit my ships for mass tests (a day or so) in advance since I don't want to waste my time on that during the test and because sometimes I won't have the time to do so right before the test. I'm not sure if this semi public approach will make me a regular useful participant. Not that I am a regular one now, but just saying.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.03.15 22:31:00 - [23]
 

Will you make a DuliLauncher as well?

CCP Explorer

Posted - 2011.03.15 22:50:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Cresalle
Good call, CCP.

However...

I reject your nickname and substitute my own.

Hence hereafter Duality shall ever be known as "DuDu".
How about "SiSi" and "Duo" for Singularity and Duality?

CCP Explorer

Posted - 2011.03.15 22:50:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Chruker
Have you totally forgotten Multiplicity? That was the 'previous' second test server :-)
Multiplicity ("Multi") is a private large-scale multi-node test server that is used as the primary hotfix server for Tranquility ("TQ").

Tedric
Genco
Posted - 2011.03.15 23:02:00 - [26]
 

I already maintain two Tranquility installations and one SISI account.

Each account consumes >7GB of space.

Each one has to be updated when a new patch is released.

Keeping SISI updated can be challenge at times (1.3GB DLes released 3 hours before event time). I accept the fact that patches are released out of the blue, that is the nature of SISI.

What I really find frustrating is setting up a new set of ships in the test systems EVERY time a new image is ported over. doing this for SISI is a pain, but doing this for TWO test servers is just to much.

I like the idea, but it is a fail. You are are effectivly creating double the amount of work for us play testers in setting ships up and maintaing installations (this is what turns most players off).

I have enjoyed the incursions testing on SISI in the past, but I will not be doing any on Doucie. I do not have the time or the patience to maintain a second test account.

I predict that you will have a lower turn out than on SISI for events.

tedric.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.03.15 23:15:00 - [27]
 

Why save two TQ cliants when you can run both off the same files.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.03.15 23:17:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Spurty on 15/03/2011 23:22:43
May I be the first to put forward 'TRIFORCE' (nick named 'Link') for the 3rd server.

and \o/


Originally by: Salpun
Why save two TQ cliants when you can run both off the same files.


Someone here either only has 1 monitor or 2 'identical' monitors. This is the exception to the 'Upgraded monitor + my old one" rule that governs the reason multi-head displays became popular amongst enthusiasts.


CCP Explorer

Posted - 2011.03.16 00:21:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Salpun
Why save two TQ cliants when you can run both off the same files.
Someone here either only has 1 monitor or 2 'identical' monitors. This is the exception to the 'Upgraded monitor + my old one" rule that governs the reason multi-head displays became popular amongst enthusiasts.
Hardlink the secondary install to the primary install, e.g., using the Junction tool from Sysinternals. That saves space but the EVE client sees two different folders and therefore keeps two sets of settings.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.03.16 00:42:00 - [30]
 

Make duality bans translate over to TQ Twisted Evil


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