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Crni Bombarder
Posted - 2011.03.13 16:46:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Crni Bombarder on 13/03/2011 16:56:30
Ok well maby changed icons make sence but 'what a hell' to make them all white is just disturbing and terible! Im used to white concord, and it makes sence, but white rats just don't. And not only that. Im having a hard time distingushing diferent ship sizes with the white color. Please make them red again CCP, plese, please, please or my brain will explode!Sad

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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention
Middle of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.03.13 17:30:00 - [2]
 

If only CCP had said when they patched it that the white color was a known issue ... oh wait

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.13 18:17:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Catari Taga
If only CCP had said when they patched it that the white color was a known issue ... oh wait


Hey! They did said that! Check your facts!

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.03.13 18:41:00 - [4]
 

Now imagine how confused you will be when you realise player ships use the same icons but without the dot in the middle.

Ninja salvaging will be a dangerous profession soon, you might get shot in error. Laughing

Crni Bombarder
Posted - 2011.03.13 19:03:00 - [5]
 

Ohh thank god it's a known bug!!

ACESsiggy
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.14 03:53:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Crni Bombarder
Edited by: Crni Bombarder on 13/03/2011 16:56:30
Ok well maby changed icons make sence but 'what a hell' to make them all white is just disturbing and terible! Im used to white concord, and it makes sence, but white rats just don't. And not only that. Im having a hard time distingushing diferent ship sizes with the white color. Please make them red again CCP, plese, please, please or my brain will explode!Sad

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I haven't reinstall the test server yet but from the picture that you have showed me .... I would prefer this over red dots. My question is, do the crosshairs match the icon that is in the overview?

mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.14 20:30:00 - [7]
 

I'm kinda dreading icons going live as opposed to crosshairs. They might look a little bit more up to date (i.e. 1980's instead of 1970's) but it is much more difficult to tell the size differences at a glance. Yes you can see the difference if you look at it for a moment, but no one's EVER going to mix up a frig cross and a battleship cross, regardless of eyesight, state of inebriation, or whether or not they happen to be sitting at their computer at the moment.

Elara Maniquere
Posted - 2011.03.14 22:16:00 - [8]
 

I don't have any particular fondness for the old icons, but they new ones are quite difficult to tell apart at a glance. In combat, with adrenaline, red boxes and targeting crosshairs to complicate things even more, they're very, very difficult to distinguish.

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.03.14 22:27:00 - [9]
 

All things being equal, the simplest option is always the best. Now what could be more simple then a RED CROSS, maybe a little bit bigger, maybe a bit smaller, but easy to manage. Try devoting your time to fixing that which is broke, rather then that which is not...

-1 Terrible idea.

Sebadai
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.03.14 23:57:00 - [10]
 

The new icons are way easier to tell apart than the old ones especially concerning player ships!

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.15 00:05:00 - [11]
 

i like the new icons

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.03.15 00:16:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Razin on 15/03/2011 02:30:09

Originally by: Elara Maniquere
I don't have any particular fondness for the old icons, but they new ones are quite difficult to tell apart at a glance. In combat, with adrenaline, red boxes and targeting crosshairs to complicate things even more, they're very, very difficult to distinguish.

The new icons are much easier to tell apart than the current icons, which are next to imposable to tell apart in the situation you are describing. In fact, I don't remember the last time I used the icon column to see shiptype under any circumstances.

I like the new icons. They are distinctive and useful.

/edit/ I was talking about player ships icons. I couldn't care less if NPC icons are changed or stay the same.

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2011.03.15 01:39:00 - [13]
 

This is.. cluttered and doesn't match up with the current scheme of overview icons. They are too bulbous and also, many if not all players can quickly recognize what rat is what by looking at the names.

The red crosses are almost Eve lexicon.

mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.15 08:26:00 - [14]
 

Couple people say they are easier to tell the difference. With player ships, that may be true. With NPCs it definitely is not. Might be worth getting a screenshot of the undock of a trade/mission hub from both and compare player icons side by side.

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.03.15 19:03:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Desert Ice78
All things being equal, the simplest option is always the best. Now what could be more simple then a RED CROSS, maybe a little bit bigger, maybe a bit smaller, but easy to manage.

-1 Terrible idea.

this.

sure they are nice, but i don't really why doing this, while old one was pretty easy to see.
well there were issue with BC and destro, but no need to redo all for that.

Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr
Vengeance Industrial Militia
Posted - 2011.03.22 18:02:00 - [16]
 

Make rats Red again. And I like the old Capsule and Player appearances.

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.03.22 18:15:00 - [17]
 

It's easier to tell apart if you've played something like Homeworld 2, which used a similar style of icon to outline ships in the top-down tactical map thingy.

You'll get used to it. When the new portraits went live I was bamboozeled for a few days, but now I can't remember what anyone's (even mine) old character portrait looked like.

Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr
Vengeance Industrial Militia
Posted - 2011.03.22 19:54:00 - [18]
 

I like the new portraits better, but I still have Nastalgia for the Old Character Portraits.

Ker'Plah
Posted - 2011.03.22 22:30:00 - [19]
 

I like the new icons. But have the same reservations as most with the higher difficultly in differentiating between ships. When I was in the mass test on Duality the thing that was the most alarming was that finding the actual gate with all the new icons was difficult. I actually had to switch overview settings to find it, that's not so so bad, but it's something I don't have to do right now. Maybe they should make celestials a different colour or something.

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.03.22 23:44:00 - [20]
 

New icons are trash. Scrap the idea. Hard to tell apart. Gonna be funny when level 4 missioners shoot torps and cruise missiles at frigates and assign light drones to BS. Please make NPC rats red again.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Work on lag, for pity's sake!

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.03.23 00:06:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Soldarius
Please make NPC rats red again.

Originally by: Catari Taga
If only CCP had said when they patched it that the white color was a known issue ... oh wait


Way to actually read the thread Rolling Eyes

Originally by: Soldarius
Work on lag, for pity's sake!


UI designers are the BEST people to combat the lag problem, that's for sure...

Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention
Middle of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.03.23 00:25:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Soldarius
Work on lag, for pity's sake!


UI designers are the BEST people to combat the lag problem, that's for sure...


Well, considering CCP UI designers aren't really good at UI design I vote for having them work on fixing lag instead. Laughing

John Caffeine
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.03.23 01:29:00 - [23]
 

I don't know about NPC, but the new icons made it easier to tell what kind of ship were on the field by looking at the brackets. I really liked the new ones, and it's shame if they don't implement it.

And who gives a **** about NPC icons anyway?

Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
Posted - 2011.03.24 12:42:00 - [24]
 

that is so stupid i cant even believe they've done this, that is WHAT THE FK! were you thinking moment.. ugly.. and sure as sh!t cant tell size differences between frigs cruisers or battleships... OMG CCP wake up! apart from completely fking up the test server royally you seriously think those icons are a step up? dont change it.. trust me... you'll have a lot less angry ppl when it goes live...

otherwise you deserve all the flaming you get for this rubbish

Maul555
Amarr
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.24 13:07:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Maul555 on 24/03/2011 13:11:21
I am going to throw in my vote with the WTF crowd... But I could get used to it.

I think most of the fuss is because of how long the current icons have been around, and that everyone already has those memorized. I am sure that most PVP-ers are not looking forward to that new learning curve that could throw them off their game for a few days...

Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr
Vengeance Industrial Militia
Posted - 2011.03.24 13:20:00 - [26]
 

Ever tried getting used to D&D? Or any RPG that wasn't an MMO?

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.03.24 16:55:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: John Caffeine
I really liked the new ones, and it's shame if they don't implement it.

If CCP decides to not implement this, I hope it would not be based on the opinion of someone who can't tell a square from a triangle.

Tarasina
Posted - 2011.03.27 06:28:00 - [28]
 

What I'd like to see is the icons in space placed ABOVE the ships so we can actually see the ship models. Right now, only battleships are discernable.

Those white icons in the pic are...subpar, impossible to tell shiptypes apart at a glance. You could just use 3 different colors as well.

Red, pink and lilac :P

Kent Reeves
Posted - 2011.03.27 12:24:00 - [29]
 

It's not broken so why "fix" it?

Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.03.27 14:14:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Kent Reeves
It's not broken so why "fix" it?



Beating stuff with a stick wasn't broken thousands of years ago, why change it?


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