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K3III AlphaTuc
Posted - 2011.03.09 19:38:00 - [1]
 

I respeced my attributes on 4 Sept, 2010.
After the patch, I got one free respec.

If I respec attributes today, will my next respec be available on 4 Sept 2011 or on 9 March 2012.
Thanks

Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.03.09 20:08:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: K3III AlphaTuc
I respeced my attributes on 4 Sept, 2010.
After the patch, I got one free respec.

If I respec attributes today, will my next respec be available on 4 Sept 2011 or on 9 March 2012.
Thanks


Reading is fundamental.

Comprehension is pretty damn important, too.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.03.09 20:25:00 - [3]
 

Only people with one or more existing remaps got a free re-map. Those hoarding (or lucky enough to have just gotten a new one before they used it) got more on top.

People actively using their re-maps only got their remap availblity date moved up to December from wherever else it was in the year.

Thats not even a fraction of a remap for 90% of those people because if you were smart enough to use the remaps in the first place , you'd have a plan that took advantage of what you were currently mapped to and the right to change early wouldn't do you any good because you liked what you were mapped to for your plan.

The moving forward of the date was appropiate though for those people who were mapped in a way that outsized points in memory with the intention to spend months of the following year training learning skills which were removed in a surprise way.

IF they hadn't given out a stacked rmap to those who already had one, the moving up of the remap date would have been a pretty elegant solution. There would be a very small amount of sp gain availbel from it for most players.

The only people getting a real windfall woulld be people who had utterly screwed up in calculations when they had remapped last or vastly changed their mind in what they really wanted to train . (the more recently they had screwed up the greater the bail out they'd have gotten) .

But some whiz brain thought "hey, lots of people aren't going to get anything at all" so they gave those people a stacked remap which they could plan ahead with an use in the to the maximum benefit possible, while pretty much givng a tiny fraction of the same utilty to all the other players.


Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.03.09 20:28:00 - [4]
 

I really don't see a reason to remap if you have core skills to 5 and at least one faction trained up for t2 weapons, frigs, and cruisers.

Just remap to all 20s (19 char) and be done with it.

Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2011.03.09 22:06:00 - [5]
 

Holy crap, can nobody answer the guy's question?

If you currently have 1 remap available, and you use it, the next one will be available 1 year from now, not when it was originally going to become available before you got the free one.

The timer starts at 1 year from when you go down to 0 available remaps.

mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.09 22:11:00 - [6]
 

You can use your remaps in as quick succession as you'd like. When you use up your last remap it's a 12 month cooldown until you get another one.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.03.09 23:15:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Holy crap, can nobody answer the guy's question?

If you currently have 1 remap available, and you use it, the next one will be available 1 year from now, not when it was originally going to become available before you got the free one.

The timer starts at 1 year from when you go down to 0 available remaps.


You're right about answering his question directly .. I did omit that important point.

The only people who got Free remaps were those that already had one.


All other people got their remap date moved up to be immedeiately useable. Calling it a 'free" remap is both where the confusion comes from and pretty iritating to people who look at the description as knowlingly disengenous. "hey we decided not to give everyone remaps" is more ok with me (not totaly but at least its upfront) .. telling me that I got a "free remap" still makes me really angry

and yeah I'll call out any bank , telephone company or retailer that uses language like that.,... if you're in a store with me at a cusotmer service counter when customer service isn't figuing out how to accomodate a request in a reasonble way, or at least apologizing .. you'd hear it three departments away lol

mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.09 23:29:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Holy crap, can nobody answer the guy's question?

If you currently have 1 remap available, and you use it, the next one will be available 1 year from now, not when it was originally going to become available before you got the free one.

The timer starts at 1 year from when you go down to 0 available remaps.


You're right about answering his question directly .. I did omit that important point.

The only people who got Free remaps were those that already had one.


All other people got their remap date moved up to be immedeiately useable. Calling it a 'free" remap is both where the confusion comes from and pretty iritating to people who look at the description as knowlingly disengenous. "hey we decided not to give everyone remaps" is more ok with me (not totaly but at least its upfront) .. telling me that I got a "free remap" still makes me really angry

and yeah I'll call out any bank , telephone company or retailer that uses language like that.,... if you're in a store with me at a cusotmer service counter when customer service isn't figuing out how to accomodate a request in a reasonble way, or at least apologizing .. you'd hear it three departments away lol


Your rant is exposing your lack of understanding. Remaps are given at a 12 month cooldown. If you had none, then you get 1. If you would have gotten one the next day anyway, then it sucks to be you, because the free remap was pretty much worthless, but you still got a free remap. Ranting about it does not change the game mechanics.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.03.10 00:20:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: mkmin
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Holy crap, can nobody answer the guy's question?

If you currently have 1 remap available, and you use it, the next one will be available 1 year from now, not when it was originally going to become available before you got the free one.

The timer starts at 1 year from when you go down to 0 available remaps.


You're right about answering his question directly .. I did omit that important point.

The only people who got Free remaps were those that already had one.


All other people got their remap date moved up to be immedeiately useable. Calling it a 'free" remap is both where the confusion comes from and pretty iritating to people who look at the description as knowlingly disengenous. "hey we decided not to give everyone remaps" is more ok with me (not totaly but at least its upfront) .. telling me that I got a "free remap" still makes me really angry

and yeah I'll call out any bank , telephone company or retailer that uses language like that.,... if you're in a store with me at a cusotmer service counter when customer service isn't figuing out how to accomodate a request in a reasonble way, or at least apologizing .. you'd hear it three departments away lol


Your rant is exposing your lack of understanding. Remaps are given at a 12 month cooldown. If you had none, then you get 1. If you would have gotten one the next day anyway, then it sucks to be you, because the free remap was pretty much worthless, but you still got a free remap. Ranting about it does not change the game mechanics.



The point is we got a remap availbe before the 12 months wer up.

The system was already turned on its head... sor aruing forthe sanctity of the system is a very iffy plank to stand on at best.

But, i'm guessing your business or profession is more like a computer programmer or an accountant who's looking at a number one lagre in field as whether someone got a remap or not and looking for some bright line that can be argued is precisely right from one standpoint rather than a person who works in a customer service/marketing/sales position .

But from reading the comments back in february there were plenty of technical people who read "free" far differntly and would certainly that If people read "Giving you a chance to remap now instead of your planned aniversary " and "Yes you'll get a free remap, enjoy" the understanding would be very different.

Why can't they go back and change the wording to something polite but more clear? (I think you know why and thats why they don't want to restate it more clearly )

Seriously, I've never seen a consumer oreientated company not make that sort of accomodation but, hey, I don't play many computer games and probably have most of the businesses I associate with more strongly courting my business.

I only say that because i guess thats where the shock comes from and I guess I should just take it in stride the way I've learned to grimace and let-go use of bigotted speach.. unfortunately gotten so inured I hardly hear it an hopefully don't slip into that bad habit learned in game elsewhere.

Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.10 00:33:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Nemesis Factor on 10/03/2011 00:35:14
Respek Knuckles!

Eugenie Lefevre
Gallente
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
Posted - 2011.03.10 00:35:00 - [11]
 

Hey Diomedes, instead of pouting and showing how incompetent you are I recommend biomassing. You get 2 free remaps instantly.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.03.10 01:09:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Eugenie Lefevre
Hey Diomedes, instead of pouting and showing how incompetent you are I recommend biomassing. You get 2 free remaps instantly.

lol

ok

actually Diomedes has a couple "free" remaps.. This character did get them...really was untrained until they announced the learning skill discontinuation then specd max mem / inteligence and be-lined up to 1.6 million sp points of moslty learning with the double speed, got the points back and got data-core capable

I have a bunch of other characters and basically only those that I wasn't planning on training much really go a free remap.

As for my other characters.. its really no big deal.. .getting the extra million or two sp over the course of a year with a 3 month soujourn into drones really doesn't matter to me.

The doesn't get me the least bit excited or mad or whatever.

For somereason the wording sets me into a holy tizzy... like I said it probably is so shocking to me to be told no when I ask for something i feel entitled to that it just doesn't compute. I"m always getting "Is there anything esle I can do for you sir?" or "oh yes, I can see where the confusion came from, we'll reverse that charge.

Clearly the developers feel that they chose the most fair route possible and that they presented the information in the most truthful way that they could. I'll just pretend that they had the very best intentions and figure maybe in a few years i'll see it their way.

Palmput
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2011.03.10 01:38:00 - [13]
 

Respec? You wanna learn 'bout respec, mon? Star, ya knah tha minmatah are all 'bout dat respec for ya cannon, ya know? None dat caldari crackah junk, its fah bustas.

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2011.03.10 01:41:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: K3III AlphaTuc
I respeced my attributes on 4 Sept, 2010.
After the patch, I got one free respec.

If I respec attributes today, will my next respec be available on 4 Sept 2011 or on 9 March 2012.
Thanks


to actually answer the question instead of :walloftexting: - as far as i know, the timer will start from when your last respec is used, so 9 March 2012.

Fearless M0F0
Incursion PWNAGE Asc
Posted - 2011.03.10 04:00:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: K3III AlphaTuc
I respeced my attributes on 4 Sept, 2010.
After the patch, I got one free respec.

If I respec attributes today, will my next respec be available on 4 Sept 2011 or on 9 March 2012.
Thanks


Short answer: 9 March 2012

We all got 1 extra respec to redistribute the new attribute points we got on December's patch.


 

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