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Elise DarkStar
Posted - 2011.03.10 23:43:00 - [91]
 

How has this guy escaped being taken through the ringer like this for so long?

This guy is a relic of the "MD Elite" era, where all they did was jerk each other off with how "brilliant" all of their coding-based, yet ultimately stupid, ideas were.

The fact that this MD dinosaur still has other people's ISK is a recipe for hilarity. My guess is a selective payback for "supporters" after a rage-quit implosion.


Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2011.03.10 23:54:00 - [92]
 

I like how RAW's cringing 11th-hour peace-mission to the fuhrer-bunker was firmly rejected with a slap in the face. You have to hand it to Block, if nothing else, he is playing out his role of evil madman to a tee. I just hope he goes down in a commanding blaze of glory rather than as a damp squib.

Naya Sky
Posted - 2011.03.11 00:00:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx

Everyone will find out on April 9, 2011.
...
Everyone knows without a shred of doubt that I will pay back the investors on April 9.
...
Off course everyone knows, even you know very well I will pay back on April 9.
...
Please wait till April 9 before you scream scam.
...
I don't think a 100 ISK coupon will be a good test of the current interest rate.
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Yes, but I beleive 10B will yield a better measure of the "risk-free" interest rate.
...
That's exactly why the 10B will be a good test for the "risk-free" interest rate
...
For this group of investors I’m trying to gauge the current “risk-free” interest rate.
...
This bond is mostly for me to test my idea of gauging the "risk-free" interest rate.
...
With the current market, I felt that 10 B ISK is good size bond that will allow me get a measure of the “effective risk-free” interest rate.



I don't know in what fantasy world do you live in but there is no risk-free investment in EVE. And if anything the recent scams have shown us that 'reputation' doesn't mean much around here and will in no way, shape or form prevent someone from running away with money.

And stating that you need 10B to "mostly test the code" is the most stupid and ridiculous reason I have ever seen on MD. And if you really need to test the code why can't you do it with 1M, 10M or 100M?? It has been asked before but you are avoiding the question with you "risk-free" nonsense.

Tutskii
Posted - 2011.03.11 00:13:00 - [94]
 

The racism in this thread is just sickening! Quit picking on Block on account of his unspecified heritage and unspecified race and ethnicity! For all you know he could be <fill in blank> just like you.

Shame on you all.

Sito Jaxa
Posted - 2011.03.11 00:23:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: Sito Jaxa on 11/03/2011 00:25:04
Originally by: Naya Sky
Originally by: Block Ukx

Everyone will find out on April 9, 2011.
...
Everyone knows without a shred of doubt that I will pay back the investors on April 9.
...
Off course everyone knows, even you know very well I will pay back on April 9.
...
Please wait till April 9 before you scream scam.
...
I don't think a 100 ISK coupon will be a good test of the current interest rate.
...
Yes, but I beleive 10B will yield a better measure of the "risk-free" interest rate.
...
That's exactly why the 10B will be a good test for the "risk-free" interest rate
...
For this group of investors I’m trying to gauge the current “risk-free” interest rate.
...
This bond is mostly for me to test my idea of gauging the "risk-free" interest rate.
...
With the current market, I felt that 10 B ISK is good size bond that will allow me get a measure of the “effective risk-free” interest rate.



I don't know in what fantasy world do you live in but there is no risk-free investment in EVE. And if anything the recent scams have shown us that 'reputation' doesn't mean much around here and will in no way, shape or form prevent someone from running away with money.

And stating that you need 10B to "mostly test the code" is the most stupid and ridiculous reason I have ever seen on MD. And if you really need to test the code why can't you do it with 1M, 10M or 100M?? It has been asked before but you are avoiding the question with you "risk-free" nonsense.


No no, the risk is "free". Nobody will force you to take the risk nor will they ask you to pay for the risk. It's just included with the investment.

Krythas
Posted - 2011.03.11 00:48:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Tutskii
The racism in this thread is just sickening! Quit picking on Block on account of his unspecified heritage and unspecified race and ethnicity! For all you know he could be <fill in blank> just like you.

Shame on you all.

This has been an exceptionally entertaining thread, and things like this just make it better.

Oh, and writing some code to break down and itemise the random moods of investors ? sheesh, if you can do that why not become the foremost authority on A.I ? It'd be a lot more lucrative than playing internet spaceships.

Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:15:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 11/03/2011 01:15:30
Block, I will happily say as someone who has read all your threads, the trolls and the defences and still invested in you, you have across as a bit of an idiot in your more recent responses on this one.

Raw really was just trying to be constructive. Native english ability aside, you SUCK at communicating what you are trying to say effectively. You really do. Thats not me being racist, that's me being truthful.

You also SUCK at understanding the nuances of what someone is saying to you. Yes MD is a complete cesspit these days, but that doesnt mean you have to act all butthurt ALL of the time that anyone doesnt understand what you mean.

Personally I think you owe Raw an apology. But thats up to you.

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:35:00 - [98]
 


Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that “native speakers are better at communicating” instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.

Raw’s comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.

It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:42:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx

Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that “native speakers are better at communicating” instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.

Raw’s comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.

It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.



No one here is your employer.

Also, you are avoiding all the relevant questions.

Why do you need ISK for this? Why can you not just use numbers to test out the tools?

Poison
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:43:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Block Ukx

Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that “native speakers are better at communicating” instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.

Raw’s comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.

It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.



No one here is your employer.

Also, you are avoiding all the relevant questions.

Why do you need ISK for this? Why can you not just use numbers to test out the tools?


Your not going to invest so dont worry about it.

Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:53:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Poison
Your not going to invest



Technically, neither are you

Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:55:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 11/03/2011 01:58:32
Originally by: Block Ukx

It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.



I am not reiterating other peoples opinion, I am stating my own. Therefore you cannot tell me that I dont think that you suck at communicating, because you are not me. You may disagree, but I would say you are in the (non-ethnic) minority.

Raw was suggesting that some of the miscommunication problems that are rife in your threads could be resolved by you consulting with a native english speaker first. Not that you are incapable of communicating without one, merely that the mis-communications might be less if you did so.

Take this abortion of a thread for instance. Nobody really had a clue what it was about for quite some time. Was that the fault of the people asking the questions? Was it their fault for perhaps not asking the RIGHT questions? Or was it the fault of the OP for not being clear enough in the first place?

Stop getting so butthurt by the trolls. You have been here long enough to know there is no arguing with some of them. But Raw is not and has never been a troll.

As I said to Kalrand (re: his personal vendetta against you) show some professionalism!!


Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:58:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on. im a butthurt nerd running a scam.



no it certainly doesn't

this will be dealt with!!11!

Poison
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2011.03.11 02:00:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: Poison
Your not going to invest



Technically, neither are you


Incorrect as usual

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2011.03.11 02:10:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Raw was suggesting that some of the miscommunication problems that are rife in your threads could be resolved by you consulting with a native english speaker first.



Could you imagine ccp saying, hey this forum is in English, so all non-native English speakers please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.
OR,
Please find a native English-speaker so we can understand your petition.
OR,
Non-native English speakers applying to the CSM please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.


Do you really think that a non-native English speaker will feel welcome in a forum where people told them to consult with a native English speaker so they can be understood?


Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.03.11 02:21:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 11/03/2011 02:29:12
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Raw was suggesting that some of the miscommunication problems that are rife in your threads could be resolved by you consulting with a native english speaker first.



Could you imagine ccp saying, hey this forum is in English, so all non-native English speakers please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.
OR,
Please find a native English-speaker so we can understand your petition.
OR,
Non-native English speakers applying to the CSM please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.


Do you really think that a non-native English speaker will feel welcome in a forum where people told them to consult with a native English speaker so they can be understood?




I was setting myself up for a big reply, but frankly its is like talking to a brick wall.

Fine report Raw, perhaps even me for agreeing with him - because I guarantee you I agree with him 100% - you suck at effective communication.

But don't whine when all you get are the trolls on your threads because the non trolls just cant be bothered any more.

edit - bolded the important parts below:

Originally by: RAW23
it may be worth passing explanations through a native speaker before posting them, where possible, in order to avoid miscommunication.

Cheque Please
Hot Like Mexico
Posted - 2011.03.11 03:12:00 - [107]
 

Block, no one here knew you were a non-native English speaker before you brought it up yourself. Confused

That means the concerns Raw has been raising have nothing to do with "discrimination" or "racism" but rather, you know... your 10b bond. Which is why we post on the MD Forums and not Stormfront. To discuss bonds.

Krythas
Posted - 2011.03.11 03:34:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx

Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that “native speakers are better at communicating” instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.

Raw’s comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.

It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.


That is such a complete load of bollox.

If the job were for someone that was based in the communications industry, and they rejected someone because they were not able to communicate as well as the next person, that's selecting the right person for the job.

If they rejected someone because they were German, thats racist.

Admitting that someone is bad at communication isn't racist at all, its called admitting that someone is bad at communication.

Suggesting they get assistance because they suck at communication is not racist either, if he had suggested you get assistance at communicating because you are German, then you might have a point.

Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
Posted - 2011.03.11 03:40:00 - [109]
 

Block is the best MD troll there is.

1 post = 5 butthurt replies minimum. (see above)

block im going to send you a vanity share when i get home.

RAW23
Posted - 2011.03.11 09:14:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: RAW23 on 11/03/2011 09:23:01
Edited by: RAW23 on 11/03/2011 09:14:39
Originally by: Block Ukx

Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that “native speakers are better at communicating” instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.

Raw’s comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.

It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.



I'm still really hoping that you are trolling …

But whether or not you are, please stop misusing the language of discrimination. You are currently doing a significant disservice to people who genuinely suffer from it.

As to your example, how about we use one that corresponds with what I actually posted rather than some fantasy interpretation?

Originally by: story

Two people apply for the same job. One is a native speaker, the other is not.

Both send in applications which, whilst largely sound as far as spelling, punctuation and grammar are concerned, make various unwarranted leaps of logic and misunderstand what was being asked for in the application process.

Both fail to communicate their own values and strengths adequately.

The company has a policy of calling all applicants for interview. Since the job is in the company's PR department the native speaker is rejected on the basis of his failure to communicate properly in his application. However, on discovering that the other applicant is a non-native speaker the company suggests that he has another go at applying, as they put his failure to communicate well in the initial application down to language abilities that can be improved rather than a judgement of the individual as simply being a poor communicator. The HR director notes that there are many excellent native speaking private tutors available in the area who could help the applicant brush up on his language skills before he re-applies.

The applicant loudly denounces the company as a bunch of racists and heads off to report them to the authorities


This is not discrimination. Or, if it is, it is positive discrimination. Being willing to excuse someone's communication failures because they are a non-native speaker and giving suggestions as to how they might improve their communication is simply not racism and the claim that it is insults people who genuinely do suffer from intolerance.

RAW23
Posted - 2011.03.11 09:17:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Liberty Eternal
I like how RAW's cringing 11th-hour peace-mission to the fuhrer-bunker was firmly rejected with a slap in the face. You have to hand it to Block, if nothing else, he is playing out his role of evil madman to a tee. I just hope he goes down in a commanding blaze of glory rather than as a damp squib.


This suggests that you have failed to understand most of my previous posting nearly as badly as Block has.

khai88
Posted - 2011.03.11 10:07:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: khai88 on 11/03/2011 10:12:40
Edited by: khai88 on 11/03/2011 10:10:44
just like to ask why people like to complain on BSAC?? i sure most if not all that complain 100% did't hold or buy anything from BASC, the right to have any say should be in the hand of thos that buy or hold BSAC right?? as all rule of MD you buy at your own risk and also i don't believe in auist as show in CRCH with audit it may still be a success SCAM, in the end i think all MD share or bond(thos without collatera) come down to trust.

Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2011.03.11 13:37:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Liberty Eternal
I like how RAW's cringing 11th-hour peace-mission to the fuhrer-bunker was firmly rejected with a slap in the face. You have to hand it to Block, if nothing else, he is playing out his role of evil madman to a tee. I just hope he goes down in a commanding blaze of glory rather than as a damp squib.


This suggests that you have failed to understand most of my previous posting nearly as badly as Block has.


OMG look everybody now he is getting racialist on me and I is not even black! Wink

Solidarity Block, I'm with you brother!

Claire Voyant
Posted - 2011.03.11 14:36:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Raw was suggesting that some of the miscommunication problems that are rife in your threads could be resolved by you consulting with a native english speaker first.



Could you imagine ccp saying, hey this forum is in English, so all non-native English speakers please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.
OR,
Please find a native English-speaker so we can understand your petition.
OR,
Non-native English speakers applying to the CSM please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.


Do you really think that a non-native English speaker will feel welcome in a forum where people told them to consult with a native English speaker so they can be understood?

This is a great example. What I understood Raw to be saying is that you might want to show your posts to a native english speaker to see if you've communicated your message. What you seem to have heard Raw saying is that non-native english speakers need not apply.

Whether or not you get some outside help, you need to understand that even native speakers can miscommunicate. There are nuances in language that may not be conveyed to all readers. Sometimes people "read into" text things that were not intended by the writer.

Anyone who is conducting a serious internet spaceship business might want to show their important communications to another person to see if they have communicated their message in the clearest possible way, whether or not they are a native english speaker. But MD would be a whole lot less fun for us trolls if they did.

trance atlas
Posted - 2011.03.11 14:36:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: RAW23
Just get someone who is better than you to help.



Yes, and according to you a native speaker is better than me. According to you, a native speaker can communicate more effectively than a non-native speaker. This type of discrimination practice is not tolerated in the US.

Should I get a native UK speaker or a native US speaker?




what kind of f a g g y ass job do you have that you would respond with this **** .

:/


lrn2constructionworker

Barbsi
Posted - 2011.03.11 21:03:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Cheque Please
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Block Ukx

“Surely you are not that disorganized”
“Ok ill be the first one to yell SCAM”
“Good grief, you must be joking!”
“Reputation counts for nothing”
“pathetic, truly pathetic”
“Give it up, Block. You're doing yourself a disservice”
“most stupid reason I have yet to see in MD”
“running a huge ponzi scheme”
“frankly tells me that you don't seem to understand”
“my gut instinct on an offer like this says that it's a scam”
“it may be worth passing explanations through a native speaker before posting them”




So poor explanations on my part deserve this type of response?




I haven't been keeping up as well as I should be, but I think it might have to do with your refusal to be audited by a 3rd party, cryptic responses to questions, starting a 10b bond to "test code", and a bald character portrait (95% of villains are bald)

Hope that helps, GL !


So if my non-native English allows me to understand the problem is because he (Block Ukx) didn't allow some strange ppl digging around his account(s)? That's absurd. Who are those people to take the right and judge the others if they are scamers or not?!

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.03.11 21:09:00 - [117]
 

This is a pretty decent way of changing the conversation away from how shady this business proposition sounds. It makes you look ridiculous, but if it helps get those billions of spacebucks, at least I can see some method to it.

Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2011.03.11 21:58:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 11/03/2011 22:01:04
There is a serious lack of EBANK in this thread.

/ebank

That should do it.

Edit for VV: /finger ("Ray > Nobody fingers like AC")

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.11 21:59:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
There is a serious lack of EBANK in this thread.

/ebank

That should do it.


/Finger. You forgot the /finger.

Phoebe Halliwel
Posted - 2011.03.11 22:24:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 11/03/2011 22:01:04
There is a serious lack of EBANK in this thread.

/ebank

That should do it.

Edit for VV: /finger ("Ray > Nobody fingers like AC")


Hopefully Block will nominate SencneS as the BSAC PR spokesperson. Epic for so many reasons, needs to be done.


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