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Loki Farseer
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.03.04 13:56:00 - [1]
 

Hi

I say Caldari is the best race, every time I do a fitting Caldari comes out on top. I know eft isnt always right :)

Anyways, I think that a pure Caldari fleet would come out on top compared to a armor one.

Who is with me in starting up a pure Caldari Corp?
Not going to tell my tactics planning here, but give me a shout on magnus@naeblis.com if you are up for it.

/Magnus

NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.03.04 17:31:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: NinjaSpud on 04/03/2011 17:32:11

Typical Caldari mindset.

You Sir are an insolate mindless beast not worthy of your implants. Should we ever meet on the battlefield I will deprive you of them. You Caldari are no higher then the filthy Mimnitar, and are both worms in this New Eden. Worms that will be crushed by the might of the Amarr.

It was by the grace of God that we Amarr stumbled upon the Mimnitar first, not Caldari, and enslaved them. Do not forget your rightful place is beside them under our heel.

Our Holy Light and retribution will purify all those not worthy of Gods salvation. GLORY TO THE AMARR!!

(YARRRR!! how'd I do? I tried to stay in charachter the whole time Razz)

Jim Tudeski
Posted - 2011.03.04 17:35:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: NinjaSpud
Edited by: NinjaSpud on 04/03/2011 17:32:11

Typical Caldari mindset.

You Sir are an insolate mindless beast not worthy of your implants. Should we ever meet on the battlefield I will deprive you of them. You Caldari are no higher then the filthy Mimnitar, and are both worms in this New Eden. Worms that will be crushed by the might of the Amarr.

It was by the grace of God that we Amarr stumbled upon the Mimnitar first, not Caldari, and enslaved them. Do not forget your rightful place is beside them under our heel.

Our Holy Light and retribution will purify all those not worthy of Gods salvation. GLORY TO THE AMARR!!

(YARRRR!! how'd I do? I tried to stay in charachter the whole time Razz)

You realize Caldari and Amarr are allies from an RP sense, right? Also lolRP

OP, just no.

Xan So'Sarian
Posted - 2011.03.04 17:40:00 - [4]
 

The enlighten Caldari are the Supreme Empire.

To all who appose us, we will rain down upon you with a fury you have never known. The wings of our pilots will blacken your sun and in your ashes our Phoenix will rise.

NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.03.04 17:42:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jim Tudeski


You realize Caldari and Amarr are allies from an RP sense, right?





....DAMNIT

Millie Clode
Amarr
Insert Cool Name Here
Posted - 2011.03.04 17:48:00 - [6]
 

Ew caldari.

Guristas > Caldari

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.03.04 18:21:00 - [7]
 

caldari is king of undock, where you are on top of stationary enemy, all other situations fail

CraigGamerPsycho
Posted - 2011.03.04 19:30:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Loki Farseer
Hi I say Caldari is the best race, every time I do a fitting Caldari comes out on top. I know eft isnt always right :) Anyways, I think that a pure Caldari fleet would come out on top compared to a armor one. Who is with me in starting up a pure Caldari Corp? Not going to tell my tactics planning here, but give me a shout on magnus@naeblis.com if you are up for it. /Magnus
Not just caldari, any race where you can Shield tank most of their ships WINS hands down against amor. I'm Amarr and whenever i try kit out a new ship i can fly theres always a minmitar or caldari Shield equivalent that outpeforms my ship. The thing is Amor fits require low slots which ALSO are where damage mods go. So Armor fits need balance out both gank and tank which leads to average ship. Caldari and Minmatar on the otherhand can Max out their mid slots with shield tank and max out their damage multiplyer mods in lows and have ships that excell at what they do. I spent 4 months traing Amarr ships when i started. They have OK ships but compared to minmitar and caldari lineup Amarr are fails. The ships should be deleted from main database. I then crosstrained into mostly minmitar with a bit of caldari and they are way better. Good tank and high gank!

Charles Baker
Gallente
Unour Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.03.04 21:34:00 - [9]
 

100 years of War and you only managed to Secede from the Federation, OUR DRONES SHALL BLOT OUT THE SUN!

Korg Leaf
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.03.04 22:43:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: CraigGamerPsycho
Originally by: Loki Farseer
Hi

I say Caldari is the best race, every time I do a fitting Caldari comes out on top. I know eft isnt always right :)

Anyways, I think that a pure Caldari fleet would come out on top compared to a armor one.

Who is with me in starting up a pure Caldari Corp?
Not going to tell my tactics planning here, but give me a shout on magnus@naeblis.com if you are up for it.

/Magnus


Not just caldari, any race where you can Shield tank most of their ships WINS hands down against amor. I'm Amarr and whenever i try kit out a new ship i can fly theres always a minmitar or caldari Shield equivalent that outpeforms my ship. The thing is Amor fits require low slots which ALSO are where damage mods go. So Armor fits need balance out both gank and tank which leads to average ship. Caldari and Minmatar on the otherhand can Max out their mid slots with shield tank and max out their damage multiplyer mods in lows and have ships that excell at what they do. I spent 4 months traing Amarr ships when i started. They have OK ships but compared to minmitar and caldari lineup Amarr are fails. The ships should be deleted from main database. I then crosstrained into mostly minmitar with a bit of caldari and they are way better. Good tank and high gank!


Not sure if you have ever flown a caldari ship or amarr ship but amarr ships are anything but poor

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.03.04 23:02:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: NinjaSpud
Typical Caldari mindset...

Wouldn't the "typical Caldari .. " involve throwing ISK at the problem by hiring a bunch of mercs to do the fighting for them? .. just askin' Very Happy

Fibby Sunhawk
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.03.04 23:10:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: CraigGamerPsycho
Originally by: Loki Farseer
Hi

I say Caldari is the best race, every time I do a fitting Caldari comes out on top. I know eft isnt always right :)

Anyways, I think that a pure Caldari fleet would come out on top compared to a armor one.

Who is with me in starting up a pure Caldari Corp?
Not going to tell my tactics planning here, but give me a shout on magnus@naeblis.com if you are up for it.

/Magnus


Not just caldari, any race where you can Shield tank most of their ships WINS hands down against amor. I'm Amarr and whenever i try kit out a new ship i can fly theres always a minmitar or caldari Shield equivalent that outpeforms my ship. The thing is Amor fits require low slots which ALSO are where damage mods go. So Armor fits need balance out both gank and tank which leads to average ship. Caldari and Minmatar on the otherhand can Max out their mid slots with shield tank and max out their damage multiplyer mods in lows and have ships that excell at what they do. I spent 4 months traing Amarr ships when i started. They have OK ships but compared to minmitar and caldari lineup Amarr are fails. The ships should be deleted from main database. I then crosstrained into mostly minmitar with a bit of caldari and they are way better. Good tank and high gank!


...and fitting all the mids with tank does not have a downside? PvE forum is that way ---->

CraigGamerPsycho
Posted - 2011.03.05 00:59:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Fibby Sunhawk
Originally by: CraigGamerPsycho
Originally by: Loki Farseer
Hi I say Caldari is the best race, every time I do a fitting Caldari comes out on top. I know eft isnt always right :) Anyways, I think that a pure Caldari fleet would come out on top compared to a armor one. Who is with me in starting up a pure Caldari Corp? Not going to tell my tactics planning here, but give me a shout on magnus@naeblis.com if you are up for it. /Magnus
Not just caldari, any race where you can Shield tank most of their ships WINS hands down against amor. I'm Amarr and whenever i try kit out a new ship i can fly theres always a minmitar or caldari Shield equivalent that outpeforms my ship. The thing is Amor fits require low slots which ALSO are where damage mods go. So Armor fits need balance out both gank and tank which leads to average ship. Caldari and Minmatar on the otherhand can Max out their mid slots with shield tank and max out their damage multiplyer mods in lows and have ships that excell at what they do. I spent 4 months traing Amarr ships when i started. They have OK ships but compared to minmitar and caldari lineup Amarr are fails. The ships should be deleted from main database. I then crosstrained into mostly minmitar with a bit of caldari and they are way better. Good tank and high gank!
...and fitting all the mids with tank does not have a downside? PvE forum is that way ---->
don't take my words so bluntly, mids are mostly fitted with shield tank. Amarr have rely on cap so all mids are morre or less taken up by cap mods. Not one aspect excells in anything. Amar in most cases are seen to fit 'in the middle'. I mean take a drake - you can go into level 4s and do them (slowly but doable). Same as hurricane, you can do l4s. A harby would die in 99% of most of those same lvl 4s - i've tried. Only way to do it would be to kite the rats 1000km along and slowly kill them since tank of armor wont be able to handle it. I'm not saying NO ship has downsides, but even so caldari and minmitar ships are way better if you compare the whole serires of ships of each race. Fly each races ship up to sub cap then see for your self. I have t2 weapons for all three Amarr, caldari and minmitar. Compare each ship in a constant (i.e same mission). You'll notice difference. I used to be like you too and back up Amarr whenever my corp mates were discussing it - mainly due to the fact i spent so much time skillling all the skills and i didn't want to feel like a waste. Now i've trained more of caldari and minmitar ican comfortly say ALOT of their ships exceed Amarr.

Fibby Sunhawk
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.03.05 01:42:00 - [14]
 

The point I was tryin to make is that shield tanking works great for PvE. But when it comes to PvP there is often trouble with fitting all the PvP mods you want if your mids are taken for the tank.

Target Painter
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.03.05 02:15:00 - [15]
 

That this isn't the dumbest thread I've ever seen says a lot (all of it bad) about the EVE-O forums.

Bronya Boga
Amarr
Posted - 2011.03.05 05:47:00 - [16]
 

OP....go slap yourself in the face....

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.03.05 06:24:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: CraigGamerPsycho

don't take my words so bluntly, mids are mostly fitted with shield tank. Amarr have rely on cap so all mids are morre or less taken up by cap mods. Not one aspect excells in anything. Amar in most cases are seen to fit 'in the middle'. I mean take a drake - you can go into level 4s


wrong forum, carebear one is that way --->

in PVP you need utility slots for ... you know, utility modules

Vak Keelin
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.05 07:02:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Charles Baker
100 years of War and you only managed to Secede from the Federation, OUR DRONES SHALL BLOT OUT THE SUN!



That means we won...Razz

CraigGamerPsycho
Posted - 2011.03.05 11:53:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Rasz Lin
Originally by: CraigGamerPsycho
don't take my words so bluntly, mids are mostly fitted with shield tank. Amarr have rely on cap so all mids are morre or less taken up by cap mods. Not one aspect excells in anything. Amar in most cases are seen to fit 'in the middle'. I mean take a drake - you can go into level 4s
wrong forum, carebear one is that way ---> in PVP you need utility slots for ... you know, utility modules
I was giving a general example. Even so theres a reason why drakes are so heavily used for gate camps. Go exploring around 0.0 and low sec (and i mean all spaces) you'll see more minmitar being used. Amar ships in a blue moon. Amarr are mostly good for huge fleet battles - not like they happen every day.

captain skinback
Posted - 2011.03.05 12:44:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: captain skinback on 05/03/2011 12:54:00
Edited by: captain skinback on 05/03/2011 12:45:45
beating a pure caldari fleet cant be that hard. fit everyone with kinetic resistances and pile one the em damage.

but then again i guess you could use damage types to give you an advantage over an amarr gal or mini fleet.

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
Posted - 2011.03.05 16:04:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: captain skinback
Edited by: captain skinback on 05/03/2011 12:54:00
Edited by: captain skinback on 05/03/2011 12:45:45
beating a pure caldari fleet cant be that hard. fit everyone with kinetic resistances and pile one the em damage.

but then again i guess you could use damage types to give you an advantage over an amarr gal or mini fleet.


Lies, any respectable Minmatar carries at least 16 different types of ammo.

Sjugar
Posted - 2011.03.06 02:16:00 - [22]
 

Caldari are real win I must say.

Train for a drake and you've just won Eve, true story.

BeachParty
Caldari
Semi Precious
Posted - 2011.03.06 03:47:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: BeachParty on 06/03/2011 03:48:34
Wouldn't the "typical Caldari .. " involve throwing ISK at the problem by hiring a bunch of mercs to do the fighting for them? .. just askin'


This merc flys pure caldari, 800+ kills and counting.

Blackbird/Rook
Drake
Cerb
Hookbill

A few of my favs.

PryMary
Minmatar
Solar Nexus.
Posted - 2011.03.06 15:48:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: captain skinback
Edited by: captain skinback on 05/03/2011 12:54:00
Edited by: captain skinback on 05/03/2011 12:45:45
beating a pure caldari fleet cant be that hard. fit everyone with kinetic resistances and pile one the em damage.

but then again i guess you could use damage types to give you an advantage over an amarr gal or mini fleet.


Lies, any respectable Minmatar carries at least 16 different types of ammo.

LaughingLaughingLaughing

Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.03.06 19:30:00 - [25]
 

To anybody denying the OP's claim...


Drake would like a word with you.


After falcon blinds you.

Jones Bones
Burning Napalm
Posted - 2011.03.07 05:17:00 - [26]
 

You did not mention your superior racial ewar in your troll. -50 dkp

Aznwithbeard
Minmatar
OMGROFLSTOMP
Posted - 2011.03.07 06:17:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Aiwha
To anybody denying the OP's claim...


Drake would like a word with you.


After falcon blinds you.


Drake bows to a well fit cyclone/cane/tix/myrm any day of the week (as long as the pilots have decent sp) as long as you cant redock :) Only time drake is every really on top is when your fighting a nub pilot as a nub ( in essense, drake is way more survivable low SP then any other bc). Its also a slow, one trick pony.

As for falcon, yea, you have ewar, thats why i fit ecccm on everything i fly with a spare mid.

Diesel47
Posted - 2011.03.07 20:16:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Aznwithbeard
Originally by: Aiwha
To anybody denying the OP's claim...


Drake would like a word with you.


After falcon blinds you.


Drake bows to a well fit cyclone/cane/tix/myrm any day of the week (as long as the pilots have decent sp) as long as you cant redock :) Only time drake is every really on top is when your fighting a nub pilot as a nub ( in essense, drake is way more survivable low SP then any other bc). Its also a slow, one trick pony.

As for falcon, yea, you have ewar, thats why i fit ecccm on everything i fly with a spare mid.


Wrong.

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.03.08 10:05:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Diesel47
Originally by: Aznwithbeard
Originally by: Aiwha
To anybody denying the OP's claim...


Drake would like a word with you.


After falcon blinds you.


Drake bows to a well fit cyclone/cane/tix/myrm any day of the week (as long as the pilots have decent sp) as long as you cant redock :) Only time drake is every really on top is when your fighting a nub pilot as a nub ( in essense, drake is way more survivable low SP then any other bc). Its also a slow, one trick pony.

As for falcon, yea, you have ewar, thats why i fit ecccm on everything i fly with a spare mid.


Wrong.


QFT.

wtf is ECCCM? ECM = jammer. ECCM = sensor strength enhancing module. Thus ECCCM would be a module that counters a sensor strength enhancing module. I believe that is a Signal Distortion Amplifier. You fit SDAs on your non-ECM ships? lolz

Or was that a typo caused by your hands shaking in fear of Caldari EWAR? There is a reason Scorpions are always in large nulsec fleets.

pussnheels
Amarr
Vintage heavy industries
Posted - 2011.03.08 10:27:00 - [30]
 

Real men tank armour, a shield tank is that red bar above my armour tank


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