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Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.26 00:43:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Imigo Montoya on 11/03/2011 07:26:57
Edited by: Imigo Montoya on 09/03/2011 12:33:17
Edited by: Imigo Montoya on 26/02/2011 07:45:32
Edited by: Imigo Montoya on 26/02/2011 04:13:04
As some of you may have heard, there was a devastating earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand on Tuesday the 22nd of February. So far 123 have been confirmed killed and 200+ are missing, and that's just as I write this - the death toll is expected to rise even more.

Water and power infrastructure has been been disrupted and liquifaction has covered many streets in knee deep sludge.

And then there's the property damage. There are entire city blocks that will need to be re-built from scratch. The effects of the earthquakes that have been hitting Chch for the last year (this was in fact an aftershock) were only just being overcome, and now this quake has devastated the city, the region, and the entire nation.

Inspired by the PLEX for Haiti drive, I wanted to do something for the people of Christchurch. Can we please set up a fund (Red Cross are collecting) to raise money to help Christchurch through this disaster.

EDIT: Extending the request to Japan too.

Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.26 00:47:00 - [2]
 

Naturally, I support this

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Amarr
Battlestars
Posted - 2011.02.26 02:39:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Facepalm on 26/02/2011 02:53:33

Initial post was too mean. I'll save that for the CSM discussion.

Instead I'll just say:

No.

Serious Internet Politician
www.seriousinternetpolitician.com
Posted - 2011.02.26 04:52:00 - [4]
 

Supported.


Krutoj
Caldari
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.03.07 13:59:00 - [5]
 

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Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.08 00:37:00 - [6]
 

Supported!

Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.03.08 07:47:00 - [7]
 


Shobon Welp
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2011.03.08 08:19:00 - [8]
 

This is silly.

New Zealand is a wealthy developed nation, it is perfectly capable of looking after the victims of the recent earthquake without outside aid donations - in a way that Haiti and Pakistan clearly weren't. If you wanted to put PLEX donations to good use you'd far better donating towards something like vaccinations for preventable childhood diseases in sub-Saharan Africa, which kills and disables many more people than earthquakes, but I guess poor black people dying doesn't grab the same news headlines as affluent white people dying.

(also lol at the CSM candidates bandwagoning this)

Aamrr
Posted - 2011.03.08 09:57:00 - [9]
 

Ignoring the issue of whether using PLEX for donations even makes sense in the first place...

...No.

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2011.03.08 14:00:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi on 09/03/2011 14:10:55
Originally by: Aamrr
Ignoring the issue of whether using PLEX for donations even makes sense in the first place...

...No.


I agree with Shoban on this...but this comment is just pure ignorance.

New Zealand is not a 3rd world country in need of assistance. It sucks what happened but they can manage just fine on their own without financial aid. Haiti was a much different story. Not trying to be a **** but that is just how it is. As for not using PLEX for donation purposes to begin with...thats being a ****. Why shouldn't we have a way as gamers to donate to a good cause? PLEX was an excellent way to do that and was CCP's decision to do it and up to the player as well...so why not?

EDIT: I am going to change my vote on this and say go ahead...why not? Saying not supported after what I already said seems a little hypocritical anyway. Even if CCP does do it I do not have to participate if I don't want to anyway so no big deal there.

Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.09 00:39:00 - [11]
 

Sure NZ isn't a third world country. Sure there are plenty of other causes to donate to. Yet still the Red Cross are taking donations to aid the people there who are suffering. They seem to think there's a need for aid there, and quite frankly I would take their word for it as they are (some of) the ones on the ground helping out.

It doesn't matter whether you're black or white, rich or poor - being squashed by falling buildings is pretty ****ing traumatic, and having your house destroyed is pretty damn devastating.

As for the CSMs "bandwagoning" on this, you will note that I (as the OP) and most of the other CSM candidates supporting it are from New Zealand. We would like to be able to support our friends and neighbours in their time of need, regardless of any CSM election.

Imin O'Hurry
Posted - 2011.03.09 07:04:00 - [12]
 

Supported.

I don't support the uninformed BS being promulgated.

Things are actually pretty squalid on the ground, and likely to stay that way for a while.

Imin O'Hurry
Posted - 2011.03.09 07:10:00 - [13]
 

To whit:

For a start off, what the OP forgot to mention is that the Feb 22 earthquake was an aftershock of one that occured last September. That earthquake cost 4.5-5 Billion USD, this one is tipped to costaround 15 Billion USD - for a total of 20 Billion, 15% of New Zealands GDP. Compare that to Hurricane Katrina, the United States costliest disaster, which weighed in at a mere 6.5% of GDP.

Also, I feel compelled to point out that the destruction in Christchurch is being compared to that in Haiti (by people that were involved in both quakes).

Incidentally - how many people realized that the US accepted donations from Afghanistan and Kenya in the wake of Hurricane Katrina?

Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.

Posted - 2011.03.09 09:52:00 - [14]
 

Little known fact: the maximum Peak Ground Acceleration (PGA) measured during the Haiti quake was around 0.5g. The maximum PGA measured during the Christchurch quake - despite only being a magnitude 6.3 - was 2.2g. This represents some of the most violent shaking ever measured in any earthquake anywhere, and would have utterly decimated many other populated areas around the world.

The death toll is only as low as it is because most buildings didn't collapse outright due to high engineering standards, but thousands are damaged at levels beyond safe occupation nonetheless and much of the city will need to be rebuilt from scratch anyway. In the meantime, thousands of people are now homeless and/or are faced with very third world living conditions in the absence of electricity, water and waste systems.

It's easy for me to support this since I was there, and I went through some serious **** that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, in-game or RL. I've lost my car, my home, possibly my job, and my injured knee is still giving me trouble. And I know I'm one of the lucky ones.

But to put things in perspective, I don't think it's worth doing as another one-off event. I'd like to see this and any other such PLEX drive in the future to be part of a more permanent rolling PLEX donation feature, where CCP would nominate a different charity every month or so, and anyone could feel free to donate to that cause, or not.

Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.09 12:33:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Ben Derindar
But to put things in perspective, I don't think it's worth doing as another one-off event. I'd like to see this and any other such PLEX drive in the future to be part of a more permanent rolling PLEX donation feature, where CCP would nominate a different charity every month or so, and anyone could feel free to donate to that cause, or not.


Thanks for lending your personal perspective to this cause Ben, sorry to hear that you got caught up in the event.

Re your suggestion, I would agree. Or even go one further and provide a mechanism for people to donate PLEX to a range of causes (or even the cause of the player's choice, although that would be a push administratively). It would get a lot of in game currency changing hands, and provide players with the opportunity to use in game resources to make a real world difference.

Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.11 07:26:00 - [16]
 

Can we extend the request to Japan too... looks pretty devastating.


 

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