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Bradley Nardieu
Posted - 2011.02.21 19:05:00 - [1]
 

I was reading through this, and I kept telling myself that I wouldn't respond, I just wouldn't respond. But, I decided I wanted to.

I think Hulkageddon is a perfectly fine part of EVE. The argument that everyone is having about it is -very- similar to arguments people have about the real-world economy. These conversations will never go away in the real world just like they won't go away on EVE.

I don't know how international Wal-Mart is, so this might only be relevant to those of us in the US. But take Wal-mart for example. It's a real debate going on constantly about whether or not Wal-Mart should be allowed to operate in the way it does. Many people see it as being unfair to local businesses. Others argue that Wal-Mart is operating perfectly fine within the constructs our government set up, called capitalism.

People will always have differing opinions on what laws should be in place that govern the economy because there are pros and cons in every model. Flaw in capitalism: Monopolies, and sending jobs overseas. Flaw in socialism: Too many to count (Biased. Sorry, couldn't resist Very Happy ). My point is that EVE has it's own economic rules set up by the 'government' aka CCP. These rules are arbitrary: There's no one out there who can tell you whether the policies are 'right' or 'wrong' just that they exist, and that's the way they are. When we all signed on to play EVE, we knew what these economic guidelines were. We all have our economic choice to make during Hulkageddon.

My personal -choice- is to stay docked and wait it out. I know I could tank up and take the risk to keep mining, but I choose not to. That's my economic choice.

Side note: EVE has hired on staff a professional economist who's in charge of making the economy of EVE run smoothly. S/He let's Hulkageddon continue because it fits within their professional opinion of what works in the EVE economy. I trust this economist to keep EVE going alive and well, Hulkageddon included.

Sorry, I know my post has been a little here, a little there, but my goal was to provide some intelligent commentary on economies in general, and why letting Hulkageddon take place is a perfectly viable economic choice.

Teh Paintress
Caldari Paint Supply
Posted - 2011.02.21 19:34:00 - [2]
 

Long on filler, short on content.


You could have said this instead.

"There are many sides and opinions to the issue of Hulkageddon, just like there are in real life. There are legitimate reasons to allow Hulkageddon CCP knows this."


That said, I'd like to point out where you fail.

First, it isn't capitalism in America any more. It is corporatism. Corporatism is what happens when monopolies don't get broken up. Check some definitions in dictionaries.

What Wal-Mart does isn't capitalism. They move into an area, sell products at a loss until the competition goes bankrupt or sells to them, then they raise prices to the level or slightly higher of the prices previously in the area for the same goods. That is corporatism.

Sending jobs overseas isn't capitalism either, it is globalism. In the economic parlance, it is known as specialisation.

CCP's rules are not "arbitrary" if they are set by experts with a rationale behind them. The general trend I'm going for here in my post is that you really suck at reasoning, either because you are stupid, or because you are one of those people with a very relaxed relationship with the meanings that words carry.

When your goal is to try and provide intelligent commentary on a subject, the first goal should be to make sure it is intelligent, and commentary.

This is idiotic rambling. However, I shouldn't expect anything less from a conservative member of my country, which is descending into idiot worship more and more by the day.



War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2011.02.21 19:34:00 - [3]
 

IBTL that says go post over here about Hulkageddon.

Volgaris Magistralis
Posted - 2011.02.21 19:51:00 - [4]
 

It seems people who QQ about Hulkageddon are not asking this question: Who benefits?

Manufacturers, and r&d skilled toons and ultimately miners benefit if you play your cards right. At first Hulkageddon seemed like a major inconvenience to my mining toons, but soon enough, you learn to gather intel so you know when the next one is coming, and you prepare before hand!

“You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.”

This is the 4th Hulkageddon ffs, if you have not learned how to turn a profit from this event by now, then you are forever going to QQ for the many hulkageddons to come.


Marchocias
Posted - 2011.02.21 20:09:00 - [5]
 

Hulkageddon Opinions Form:

I [ ] like / [ ] dislike / [ ] couldn't care less about Hulkageddon because:

(check all that apply)
[ ] I find it very funny
[ ] I don't find it funny at all
[ ] it makes lots of people angry
[ ] it doesn't even make people angry (I'M NOT ANGRY!)
[ ] it demonstrates PvP skill
[ ] it demonstrates lack of PvP skill
[ ] it creates lots of classic threads on the forums
[ ] it creates lots of rubbish threads on the forums
[ ] ...no really, I don't care

I think that everyone who joins in Hulkageddon is:

[ ] a fail player
[ ] a great player
[ ] a noob
[ ] a bitter vet
[ ] a spoilsport
[ ] a joker
[ ] a psychopath in real life
[ ] a nice person in real life
[ ] Helicity Bosons bum chum
[ ] Other:

If other please specify: _______________________________

I think that Helicity Boson is:

[ ] a fail player
[ ] a great player
[ ] a noob
[ ] a bitter vet
[ ] a spoilsport
[ ] a joker
[ ] a psychopath in real life
[ ] a nice person in real life
[ ] Helicity Boson
[ ] Other:

If other please specify: _______________________________

I think the event is: [ ] good / [ ] bad / [ ] meh for the game of Eve, and those
responsible should be [ ] lauded / [ ] executed / [ ] ignored by CCP, or I'm going to:

[ ] gank some more Hulks.
[ ] threaten to quit like a little girl.
[ ] go on with my life, not caring.


Please fill out this form, print it off, fold it, and pop it in your bottom.
Thanks.

Famble
Minmatar
Three's a Crowd
Posted - 2011.02.21 20:19:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Teh Paintress

What Wal-Mart does isn't capitalism. They move into an area, sell products at a loss until the competition goes bankrupt or sells to them, then they raise prices to the level or slightly higher of the prices previously in the area for the same goods. That is corporatism.



Whatever you want to call it I personally like their prices; so if that means pushing mom and pop's over-priced stores off the cliff then so be it. Sounds harsh but what's the alternative? Artificially keeping mom and pop stores afloat by preventing competition? That medicine sounds worse than the disease imo.

If you need me I'll be care-bearing over there Arrow

Jet'leia
Posted - 2011.02.21 20:19:00 - [7]
 

zzzzzzzz

another boring hulkageddon thread.....


Millie Clode
Amarr
Insert Cool Name Here
Posted - 2011.02.21 20:21:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Millie Clode on 21/02/2011 20:22:29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_generated_content#Player_generated_content

Also hulkageddon is one of the few Lulz-driven market forces in any market ever. Get with teh program innit.


 

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