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Caldariftw123
Posted - 2011.03.18 12:58:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Kei Darker
It's all good V. :)
I think you're on the right track with this whole thing, and the fact that you can't scam makes it even better. Even though I hate the whole concept of having real world consequences in a game. There's just so so many things wrong with that idea. At least it's for a good cause.
Keep drumming up support.
Also, I think you really should consider just running the fund 100% yourself. Just makes things easier to keep track of.
Best of luck.



I could scam, believe me. I don't want to give people false sense of security (proof that I suck as scammer Razz).

About the "running the fund 100% yourself": the Sister Funds are the most sensible way to make a concerted effort. After the dust will settle, donations to this fund will reduce a lot and then they'll slowly become larger.
I pondered - a lot - about forming a Board of Directors. The Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws even support forming a BoD. But I am not going to make such BoD actual in game directors (I'd use them to take decisions), there is no way to enforce them to always participate to unlocks, votes and so on. After several months, when routine settles in and attention fades, one of them could pull a Bad Bobby.


Don't do that, definitely no director roles! A BOD might be interesting, but I'd see it more as a conglomerate of sorts, like OPEC are (except it'd be more like Organisation of Contributing Charitable Funds or something :D have to think of a better one for that ..) rather than an official corporate body formed between those 'sister companies' CEOs. That leave you running the main initiative but with a group to fall back upon for policy or direction changes or even just for pooling interests and talent.

Viaris
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
Posted - 2011.03.18 16:06:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: Roguehalo
It all helps to drum up a bit of publicity and possibly drag in more donations. Ok I know there are trillionaires out there........who's gonna beat 27b?


GIVING 50b isk for your PLEXes towards Japan donation

50b personal isk going out to the victims in Japan. Anyone cares to help turn that into 150 PLEXes?

Cheers,

Viaris

Roguehalo
Caldari
Roguehalo Ship Brokers
Posted - 2011.03.18 16:21:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: Viaris
Originally by: Roguehalo
It all helps to drum up a bit of publicity and possibly drag in more donations. Ok I know there are trillionaires out there........who's gonna beat 27b?


GIVING 50b isk for your PLEXes towards Japan donation

50b personal isk going out to the victims in Japan. Anyone cares to help turn that into 150 PLEXes?

Cheers,

Viaris



Just send it to CCP. they will buy plexes with it. Or send it to VW for a new record and a bit more publicity.!!

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.18 18:04:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Viaris
Originally by: Roguehalo
It all helps to drum up a bit of publicity and possibly drag in more donations. Ok I know there are trillionaires out there........who's gonna beat 27b?


GIVING 50b isk for your PLEXes towards Japan donation

50b personal isk going out to the victims in Japan. Anyone cares to help turn that into 150 PLEXes?

Cheers,

Viaris



Giving 50B is not advisable. CCP stated they'll actually use it to purchase PLEXes off the market. Since they'll do on March 31, a steep rise in PLEXes is going to tangibly reduce the buying potential of such a large sum.

Kei Darker
Posted - 2011.03.18 21:02:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

Giving 50B is not advisable. CCP stated they'll actually use it to purchase PLEXes off the market. Since they'll do on March 31, a steep rise in PLEXes is going to tangibly reduce the buying potential of such a large sum.


End result of this economics is the same. Buying now means your contribution is larger in PLEXes, but drives up the price of PLEX, resulting in future buyers contributions to be smaller, whereas waiting allows others to have a a larger contribution per ISK, and yours would be smaller. However, the total amount of ISK spent on the market for PLEX will be the same and the total number of PLEX will also be the same. Supply and demand at its finest.

Still... just buy them now and donate them. before you can change your mind. besides... who doesn't want their contribution to be as large as possible. There is no such thing as a selfless act so you'll feel better when your contribution is worth the most possible.

Caldariftw123
Posted - 2011.03.18 21:06:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Kei Darker
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

Giving 50B is not advisable. CCP stated they'll actually use it to purchase PLEXes off the market. Since they'll do on March 31, a steep rise in PLEXes is going to tangibly reduce the buying potential of such a large sum.


End result of this economics is the same. Buying now means your contribution is larger in PLEXes, but drives up the price of PLEX, resulting in future buyers contributions to be smaller, whereas waiting allows others to have a a larger contribution per ISK, and yours would be smaller. However, the total amount of ISK spent on the market for PLEX will be the same and the total number of PLEX will also be the same. Supply and demand at its finest.


That would only be true if people buy up an amount of plex matching his donation at the end of a price rise. If he is donating 3 times as many as are bought during the last week (and presumably at the highest price) then the overall amount of plexes donated would be higher than if HIS purchase was done later after the price has already risen.

Krythas
Posted - 2011.03.20 00:43:00 - [157]
 

Just a bump.

Also, looking at the potential increase in prices of PLEX, would it be a good idea to start converting some of the liquid ISK to PLEX earlier than do it later in bulk ?

(or is this already underway ?)

Barbicane
TGUN Industries
Posted - 2011.03.20 09:20:00 - [158]
 

Quote:

2) Contract assets of 10M (ten millions) or above in value to: Vahrokh’s Emergencies Relief Trust (not to Vahrokh Financial Technologies). Any high security system will do, though main trade hubs are preferred.


I have contracted some long unused mission ships and stuff. I'm sorry I don't have time to move them to more convenient locations but at least they are in highsec. Hope you have time to liquidate some of it for the Japan campaign. If not, no worries, just keep it for the future.

Btw, the corp name above is misspelled. The apostrophe in Vahrokh's should be changed from ´ to '.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.20 15:54:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Krythas

Just a bump.

Also, looking at the potential increase in prices of PLEX, would it be a good idea to start converting some of the liquid ISK to PLEX earlier than do it later in bulk ?

(or is this already underway ?)



The PLEX prices peak is not random, it's here because vile opportunists want to make more virtual money on the skins of RL distressed populations.
I find it quite despisable but market is based on greed and fear, so nothing I can do here.

Anyway stuff is brewing up. Despite the nasty odds of having to buy on spiking prices I used some technical analysis to buy some short dips.
So far despite having been forced to use sell orders, I saved about 5% (going very approximate) over what I should have spent even using buy orders. The net result is that I sgnatched 1 more PLEX.
I might manage to sgnatch 1 more but the fight to give more results to the Kind Donors will be much harder soon.

I'll need to resort to Tutskii's offer to help. I sent an eve-mail to that regard.


Originally by: Barbicane

I have contracted some long unused mission ships and stuff. I'm sorry I don't have time to move them to more convenient locations but at least they are in highsec. Hope you have time to liquidate some of it for the Japan campaign. If not, no worries, just keep it for the future.



I want to wholeheartedly thank you. You sent in a great deal of value, I think several billions worth of stuff (the "unused ships" are not a Drake, but fitted CNR + fitted Golem, deadspace mods and similar).

Though I don't think I am going to be able to liquidate rigged ships, deadspace mods and the other items (checked @Jita, 2-4 of those >100M a pop items sold per day, buys are like 40M and I am not going to waste them like that) by the deadline.

What will be left will be slowly liquidated for the next initiative or I might even "purchase" some of it for my Caldari missioneer (ie I swap the ship for my money and the money goes to the charity). I think it's better than just dumping the whole deal. Or maybe I find someone who needs the whole ships. Anyway it's going to be liquidated for the next distaster - and we know there will be.

Roguehalo
Caldari
Roguehalo Ship Brokers
Posted - 2011.03.20 18:01:00 - [160]
 

I'm in the market for a fitted Golem since I'm going to start running missions again. If it's in high sec please contract it to me at market price.

RAW23
Posted - 2011.03.20 18:44:00 - [161]
 

And I'll take the Raven. Contract it to me at whatever you assess market price to be.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.20 21:00:00 - [162]
 

@Above

I am going to log in tomorrow. I'll post the ships fittings so you can tell me what do you want of them.

RAW23
Posted - 2011.03.20 21:37:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
@Above

I am going to log in tomorrow. I'll post the ships fittings so you can tell me what do you want of them.


I'll take the Raven however it is currently fitted. Anything I don't want I can sell off in my own time.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.21 12:25:00 - [164]
 

For transparency sake, here are the ships and their cargo:

[Golem, Deadspace PvE]
Signal Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Core B-Type 100MN Afterburner
Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field
Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Target Painter II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Medium 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


2085 x Bane Javelin Torpedo
1909 x Inferno Javelin Torpedo
1872 x Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
1452 x Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo




[Raven Navy Issue, L4 PvE]
Signal Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Afterburner II
Estamel's Modified Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Gist X-Type Photon Scattering Field
Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


2500 x Cataclysm Cruise Missile
135 x Devastator Cruise Missile
2300 x Paradise Cruise Missile
2084 x Wrath Cruise Missile
700 x Dragon F.O.F. Cruise Missile I
300 x Hunter F.O.F. Cruise Missile I


I hope not to have typoed anything, those interested are strongly advised to quadruple check them before accepting.

As for the prices, I'll dig contracts later, gotta go lunch now.

Roguehalo
Caldari
Roguehalo Ship Brokers
Posted - 2011.03.21 14:37:00 - [165]
 

Thx for the info. I'll offer 2.6b for the Golem. If that's acceptable contract it please.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.21 18:09:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Roguehalo
Thx for the info. I'll offer 2.6b for the Golem. If that's acceptable contract it please.


By checking contracts for second lowest price +
considering the ship unrigged +
ignoring the Core B-Type 100MN AB (I did not find any in contracts)

JEvEassets tells the ship is worth 2.705B. Ignoring the AB that is.

I'd have hoped for a sligthly more... aligned offer if possible.

Since your deal is "instant" though, I may have to accept it in order to make in time for the running CCP initiative.

I kindly ask you to put an hand on your heart though, if possible.

Barbicane
TGUN Industries
Posted - 2011.03.21 18:18:00 - [167]
 

Thanks guys, Roguehalo and RAW23, for offering to buy these ships, saving time for VV and making me feel better for dumping them on her Wink. The Golem served me well in many L4 missions years ago but I couldn't say how it would fare today. The CNR is more of an experimental fit as I recall it. As for the value, I have no idea. I'm totally out of touch with that market.

Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2011.03.21 18:18:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I'd have hoped for a sligthly more... aligned offer if possible.

I kindly ask you to put an hand on your heart though, if possible.


lol VV, he already put his hand on his heart and donated 10 bil. Accept his offer and whatever the price difference is, evemail it to me and I'll make it up Wink

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.21 18:31:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I'd have hoped for a sligthly more... aligned offer if possible.

I kindly ask you to put an hand on your heart though, if possible.


lol VV, he already put his hand on his heart and donated 10 bil. Accept his offer and whatever the price difference is, evemail it to me and I'll make it up Wink


I have to be a damn biatch, I am using T.A., friends, everything to scoop up those 1-2 more PLEXes.

You are right, if you send 100M I'll take it as "delta" and will happily contract the ship to Rogue Halo. Yes, indeed he put his hand on heart a lot and those who will benefit from his generosity should be glad that in the nastiest MMO out there, there are unknown guys capable of such gestures.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.21 19:22:00 - [170]
 

I want to publicly apologize to Roguehalo. He has done so much, I should not have pushed him for more like that. Sorry Embarassed

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.21 21:57:00 - [171]
 

Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 21/03/2011 22:14:40
Thanks to Liberty Eternal, contract for 2.6B set up to Roguehalo.

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@RAW23 I finally managed to find a price for the CNR (rigs not considered): 1,545,542,449.82. If you are fine with a price around that, it's deal.




RAW23
Posted - 2011.03.21 23:10:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

@RAW23 I finally managed to find a price for the CNR (rigs not considered): 1,545,542,449.82. If you are fine with a price around that, it's deal.






I'll take your word on the price :-)

Contract to Kara please and I'll accept as soon as it hits.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.21 23:45:00 - [173]
 

Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 21/03/2011 23:47:18
Added a batch (!) of donations, confirmed receipt of 2.6B by Roguehalo, made contract to Raw 23.

BTW Barbicane also donated more navy stuff, a T2 ship, some spare deadspace or faction items, T2 ammo...

I am humbled before such display of generosity. Off Barbicane, off Roguehalo, off RAW23...


@Raw23: ship contracted. The only item I had difficutly giving a value was the Estamel item, there are no contracts, I found no history in known high end contractors so I searched in the sell orders. The last sold for 700M and another for 500M. I gave it a value of 500M, hope you'll feel the prices fair enough.

Edit:

Contract to Roguehalo screenshot.
Contract to RAW23 / Kara Roideater screenshot.



Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.22 21:13:00 - [174]
 

Updates:

1) I updated donors list.

2) As soon as cooldowns will let me, I'll post a listing of other misc items Barbicane has donated. If anyone wants any, they'll be welcome.

3) I have read the wildest figures about the amounts I hold. They are wrong. There's a now outdated estimate at this post.

Since it does not seem to be clear enough I will explain it better.

There's a hierarchy of corporations all under a common umbrella called "Vahrokh Group". That post listed the total group exposition, which is NOT the NAV. It's the sum of 3rd party assets (collaterals, BPOs in research) + Charity fund NAV.

4) In order to make things clearer I will post a statement of assets in a pair of days, ATM some of my API cooldowns are being shared by a running audit so I have to play with the cooldowns to squeeze in the reading and to search contracts again for the Barbicane donated items.

For the moment, there is a screenshot of cash + PLEXes accrued so far. Once the statement of assets is out I'll send the PLEXes.

Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
Posted - 2011.03.23 15:09:00 - [175]
 

Donated 1 share of EDSTC stock to your fund. Also sent this weeks dividend payment of 1,676,636 isk. The stock + dividends are donated in the name of Misty McGinnity since she returned her share to the corp. Shocked Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes YARRRR!! Cool

There are two more weekly dividend payments scheduled. There will also be a share buyback on the April 5th when the trading company is wound down.

regards,
Edwin (on Misty's behalf!)

Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
Posted - 2011.03.24 05:58:00 - [176]
 

fair enough too.

ill donate all of misty's corp assets to the fund also.

sad news folks: i have to biomass misty to make room for a new pilot. ill roll a new troll alt soon enough.

on topic. VV nice haul. Shocked

Tutskii
Posted - 2011.03.24 07:10:00 - [177]
 

Crying or Very sad
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
fair enough too.

ill donate all of misty's corp assets to the fund also.

sad news folks: i have to biomass misty to make room for a new pilot. ill roll a new troll alt soon enough.

on topic. VV nice haul. Shocked
.
Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.24 09:50:00 - [178]
 

Thank you to the additional donors!

Since the "pulse donations" to this charity for the PLEX for Japan initiative seem to have reduced in volume (not in nobleness of the act!) I think I am going to close the accounting month on Monday March 28 23:59 EvE time.

If anyone has a sizable donation to do for the running initiative please do it before that term.

As for the share donation, I am going to put it in the Dividends Receivable voice of the accounts. Since it's been a donation of an equity that should always have a net gain >= 0 I think the charity may accept it.

MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror
Posted - 2011.03.24 15:57:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha 22/03/2011 21:13:00
2) As soon as cooldowns will let me, I'll post a listing of other misc items Barbicane has donated. If anyone wants any, they'll be welcome.


Did I miss this list somewhere?

MDD

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.03.24 18:22:00 - [180]
 

Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 24/03/2011 21:54:23
Originally by: MailDeadDrop
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha 22/03/2011 21:13:00
2) As soon as cooldowns will let me, I'll post a listing of other misc items Barbicane has donated. If anyone wants any, they'll be welcome.


Did I miss this list somewhere?

MDD


No, you missed the cooldowns and the time to prepare it.

It's now publicly available as Excel sheet on GoogleDocs at this address.

Keys to the list:

1) Prices refer to today's Jita sell min or buy max (for items with no sell min).
I am going to accept less than the buy max for the illiquid items, just send / make an offer.

2) The items are not in Jita and I can't move them. The items location is indicated, so you know what is going to cost you to move them away and you may make an informed price based on that.
Anyone who accepts, I won't disclose their name until the item has been moved off (just in case).

3) One of the items is a fitted Muninn, the "container" column basically says what's fitted on it.


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