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spreee
Posted - 2011.02.05 21:51:00 - [1]
 

So making new char just for running sansha plexes. Going for the solo ded 10/10 setups and not sure what to use yet!

[Loki, sansha armor]
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Domination Armor EM Hardener
Domination Armor EM Hardener
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

98.4% EM 83.9% THM Armor resist
34% cap stable
436 dps, 1618 eft volley
130m sig

Swap Turret Concurrence Registry for Projectile Scoping Array

529 dps whit 5 hobnobs t2, 1156 eft volley

Or i go for active shield tank

[Loki, shield]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field
Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field
Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


Hobgoblin II x5

95.3% EM 85.6% THM Shield resist
32% cap stable
556 dps, 1768 eft volley
143m sig

Same swap whit sub system to get them drones

648 dps whit 5 hobnobs t2, 1263 eft volley.


Training time is about the same the get this ship rocking whit shield or armor. Same cost for booster and repper. Shield setup is abit more whit faction mods to get that extra cap i want as i like to be stable. My biggest question will be that if the shield setup whit cloak, 95.3% em and slightly more dps whit drone setup will be more efficient then the 98.4% em armor whit higher volley dmg and lower sig radius as i will be in total hostile space running high end plexes ofc whit a probing alt(avoiding camps and getting ganked is not likley to happend). Anyone whit experince of these fitts that can tell me ups and down whit these fitts as i will either train armor or the shield skills as i wont and cant be arsed to train both systems up??
And no i wont fly any other ships or any escape bubble nullifier setup =) tnx in advance!

Xituqtra
Posted - 2011.02.05 22:14:00 - [2]
 

if I understand correctly you are training a new character from scratch to use a t3 to run complexes. Better go tengu then imo beats the loki pve wise

spreee
Posted - 2011.02.05 22:17:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Xituqtra
if I understand correctly you are training a new character from scratch to use a t3 to run complexes. Better go tengu then imo beats the loki pve wise


a tengu cant solo a sansha 10/10 site now can it?

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.02.05 22:52:00 - [4]
 

I think without cargo expanders you run out of ammo before you finish the plex.

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.02.05 22:52:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: spreee
Originally by: Xituqtra
if I understand correctly you are training a new character from scratch to use a t3 to run complexes. Better go tengu then imo beats the loki pve wise


a tengu cant solo a sansha 10/10 site now can it?


Well since you obviously don't realize that CN photons/heat dissipation/kinetic deflection/explosion dampening hardeners don't add any resistances, you're obviously a bit slow. Let me help.


[Tengu, 10/10 sansha erryday]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field

Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


[Tengu, 10/10 sansha erryday ON A BUDGET]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Photon Scattering Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II

Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

spreee
Posted - 2011.02.05 23:24:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: spreee
Originally by: Xituqtra
if I understand correctly you are training a new character from scratch to use a t3 to run complexes. Better go tengu then imo beats the loki pve wise


a tengu cant solo a sansha 10/10 site now can it?


Well since you obviously don't realize that CN photons/heat dissipation/kinetic deflection/explosion dampening hardeners don't add any resistances, you're obviously a bit slow. Let me help.


[Tengu, 10/10 sansha erryday]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field

Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


better resists better alpha less sig radius 115ms more speed, slaps your face for giving me a tengu tip when i didnt want it. learn to read then type as i also said i went cn hardeners for cap not more %!

[Loki, shield]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Heat Dissipation Field

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


Hobgoblin II x10

96.1% EM 87% THM 556dps 1768 eft volley. Tengus should stay up north!

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.02.05 23:48:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: spreee
Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: spreee
Originally by: Xituqtra
if I understand correctly you are training a new character from scratch to use a t3 to run complexes. Better go tengu then imo beats the loki pve wise


a tengu cant solo a sansha 10/10 site now can it?


Well since you obviously don't realize that CN photons/heat dissipation/kinetic deflection/explosion dampening hardeners don't add any resistances, you're obviously a bit slow. Let me help.


[Tengu, 10/10 sansha erryday]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field

Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier II

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


better resists better alpha less sig radius 115ms more speed, slaps your face for giving me a tengu tip when i didnt want it. learn to read then type as i also said i went cn hardeners for cap not more %!

[Loki, shield]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Heat Dissipation Field

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


Hobgoblin II x10

96.1% EM 87% THM 556dps 1768 eft volley. Tengus should stay up north!



This is PVE you stupid ****, cap stability trumps less cap usage, better tank > only better resists, DPS > alpha.

Sub Prime
Posted - 2011.02.06 09:45:00 - [8]
 

As far as "better tank > only better resists" goes, I disagree. The final room of the 10/10 includes a em torp which does a fair amount of dmg, so in this case, a buffer makes the alpha of torp more manageable. Within a certain range the overseer structure also webs, so even more reason to go safe and go for buffer/resists over raw shield boostage.

As far as soloing the 10/10, it's impossible due to the DPS required to destroy the structure in one of the initial rooms - iirc it requires around 1800 dps.


 

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