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Mavnas
Posted - 2011.02.04 08:15:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Mavnas on 04/02/2011 08:20:06
So inspired by the success of the battle badger, I've started to wonder if other industrials could be used too.

Obviously the badger is popular because it has 6 mids and a pretty decent PG. So I've been trying to figure out which other ships have distinguishing characteristics like that.

So far I can think of the Sigil, which is by far the fasted industrial (base speed 155 m/s (242 at max skill)). The Sigil's main problem seems to be a lack of mids Sad.

So far this is what I could come up with:


[Sigil, Battlesigil]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Coreli C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Warp Scrambler II
10MN Afterburner II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

52 DPS, 39 tank, 3853 EHP. It's kind of squishy. The only really nice thing is that with the AB you get up to 625 m/s and with scorch you can engage out to the edge of your scram range. The downside of course is that like all industrials it's not particularly agile.

Variations:
Drop Heat Sink for more tank
Drop one of the mids for a web. With Web/Scram you could potentially still dictate range against a target that has a MWD and no web. With AB/Web/Scram you can definitely dictate range, but you have to pulse the repper making your already weak tank totally worthless. This would only work if you already have your target targetted before the fight starts and he's around 10km away and incapable of shooting that far. Kind of iffy imo, and you can't neut at that range Sad

Summary: Sigil is fast, but it's unclear that you can use that speed for anything.

Other option Itteron Mark V. At 5 + 5, it has the most slots of any industrial. At 85 PG base it has the biggest PG. This makes it much more versatile. Still trying to figure out what to do with that versatility.

One initial thought:


[Iteron Mark V, BattleIttySturdy]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II

Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Same DPS as the Sigil, but now this tank isn't vulnerable to neuting. 17k EHP, 77 tank. This tank is much more likely to stop a frigate. Not stable running everything, but you can pulse the neut 2-3 mins into the fight.

LordInvisible
Gallente
Nova Ardour
Posted - 2011.02.04 09:50:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: LordInvisible on 04/02/2011 09:53:56
mammoth.. use it:D

[Mammoth, battle]
Coreli C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Coreli C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Small Energy Neutralizer II
Dual 180mm 'Scout' Autocannon I, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.02.04 10:12:00 - [3]
 

[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Misstress Iteron
Antares Shipyards
Posted - 2011.02.04 13:37:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Loraine Gess
[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I



I couldn't agree moreVery Happy

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.02.04 13:48:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Misstress Iteron
Originally by: Loraine Gess
[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I



I couldn't agree moreVery Happy



Hehehe, was wondering if you'd show up here. I stole that fit from you after seeing you on eve-kill, was quite a bit of fun going through your kills.

Simeon Tor
Picon Fleet
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2011.02.04 14:34:00 - [6]
 

What, no disco Noctis's's's's's? Disco Noctii?

Erid Tangor
Posted - 2011.02.04 14:44:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Simeon Tor
What, no disco Noctis's's's's's? Disco Noctii?


Disco Noctizzle.

Mavnas
Posted - 2011.02.04 17:10:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Loraine Gess
[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I



I like the strength of that tank, but what happens if you run into someone whose tank you can't break in 2 mins and 20 seconds?

Misstress Iteron
Antares Shipyards
Posted - 2011.02.04 17:23:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mavnas
Originally by: Loraine Gess
[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I



I like the strength of that tank, but what happens if you run into someone whose tank you can't break in 2 mins and 20 seconds?


You improvise. It took me 30 min to bring down a rokh

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.02.04 17:47:00 - [10]
 

You took down a Rohk... in an Itty?!

Wow.

Morg Braktar
Minmatar
BlackTar Corporation
Posted - 2011.02.04 18:04:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Erid Tangor
Originally by: Simeon Tor
What, no disco Noctis's's's's's? Disco Noctii?


Disco Noctizzle.


Dizzle Noctizzle!

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.02.04 18:07:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Misstress Iteron
You improvise. It took me 30 min to bring down a rokh


Wait what? Can you elaborate on this please?

-Liang

Dryfty
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.04 18:50:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Dryfty on 04/02/2011 18:50:27
Battle Hoarder HOOOOO

http://suddenlyninjas.net/killboard/index.php?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9262


Mavnas
Posted - 2011.02.04 22:04:00 - [14]
 

Must have been a fail Rokh. It's not exactly hard to mount a passive tank capable of stopping a single small gun.

andeira
Posted - 2011.02.04 22:10:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Misstress Iteron
You improvise. It took me 30 min to bring down a rokh


Wait what? Can you elaborate on this please?

-Liang


I found the kill for you

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6383929


Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.02.04 23:32:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Mavnas
Originally by: Loraine Gess
[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I



I like the strength of that tank, but what happens if you run into someone whose tank you can't break in 2 mins and 20 seconds?



Well you have a few options. The most obvious being to cycle off the neut (bumps up total cap time to 16m 31s). After that boost in time, if you're still shooting the target it's obviously a battlecruiser+, and you should be good to either completely turn off your web or cycle it to keep him well within pew pew range.

Mavnas
Posted - 2011.02.05 03:19:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: andeira
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Misstress Iteron
You improvise. It took me 30 min to bring down a rokh


Wait what? Can you elaborate on this please?

-Liang


I found the kill for you

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6383929




Wow... and that's why I always fit at least a token tank.

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.05 08:29:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: andeira
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Misstress Iteron
You improvise. It took me 30 min to bring down a rokh


Wait what? Can you elaborate on this please?

-Liang


I found the kill for you

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6383929




The greatest smile i had this week thx to this post.

I have adomi in the same style that could make jalous a lot of retrievers Laughing ok it's a little bit + expensive but what? -when you love you don't count Laughing

Mavnas
Posted - 2011.02.05 18:52:00 - [19]
 

This week, in ingame chat someone linked a battle badger kill of a dramiel Shocked.

Aamrr
Posted - 2011.02.05 19:07:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Mavnas
This week, in ingame chat someone linked a battle badger kill of a dramiel Shocked.


The dramiel was the battlebadger's alt.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.02.05 19:09:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Mavnas
This week, in ingame chat someone linked a battle badger kill of a dramiel Shocked.


I think you'll appreciate this one too. Laughing
http://the-bastards.com/kb//?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15451

-Liang

Th0rG0d
Terminal Pharmaceuticals Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.05 19:35:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Mavnas
This week, in ingame chat someone linked a battle badger kill of a dramiel Shocked.


I think you'll appreciate this one too. Laughing
http://the-bastards.com/kb//?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15451

-Liang


Cynabal pilot asleep at the wheel? This is just... wow Shocked

Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
Posted - 2011.02.05 19:36:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Loraine Gess
[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I



Well, I'll give you that you have an excellent tank there... but, you lack control and DPS. First, u have no AB or a Dual webb to keep them there. and no cap booster to support your nuet and lol Blaster, on a ship with so many SPRs on it. You want to have an AC on it for this case. This isn't how I fit mine, but if you want, here's a point in the right direction for your style fit anyways.

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
PDS II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

200mm AC II, Hail
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Sure you lose some tank, but still boasts 108 defence rating, with a 118 hp/sec recharge. You have more power and less reliance on an energy weapon. So unless u rely on Logi's for power, then there u go. But, if u have logi's anyway for back-up, why go with such an extreme tank anyways? cause with your current set-up, anyone with an ab can still just fly away.Embarassed

Doshia
Posted - 2011.02.06 08:27:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Doshia on 06/02/2011 08:37:55

Misstress Iteron
Antares Shipyards
Posted - 2011.02.06 08:40:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Cordo Draken
Originally by: Loraine Gess
[Iteron Mark V, Can flipper extraordinnaire copy 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I



Well, I'll give you that you have an excellent tank there... but, you lack control and DPS. First, u have no AB or a Dual webb to keep them there. and no cap booster to support your nuet and lol Blaster, on a ship with so many SPRs on it. You want to have an AC on it for this case. This isn't how I fit mine, but if you want, here's a point in the right direction for your style fit anyways.

Sure you lose some tank, but still boasts 108 defence rating, with a 118 hp/sec recharge. You have more power and less reliance on an energy weapon. So unless u rely on Logi's for power, then there u go. But, if u have logi's anyway for back-up, why go with such an extreme tank anyways? cause with your current set-up, anyone with an ab can still just fly away.Embarassed



Control is fine with a single web and scram as AB are a rare thing. The reason for the blaster is simply because it is the highest damage weapon going. The tank is also very important as I often find myself outnumbered or facing a hard hitting opponent. For example.

The tank is the most important part of my fit as without that I cannot inflict death by a thousand cuts. This is why I would like CCP to add a turret slot to the deep space transports.


 

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