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Llyandrian
Amarr
Livestock Science Exchange
Posted - 2011.01.24 13:24:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Llyandrian on 24/01/2011 13:52:57

Sansha Kuvakei, the embodiment of the Great Deceiver reveals the depth of his deception for the truly faithful.

Those not present at Yulai should be made aware that his forces were defeated by Heroes of Humanity and Kuvakei, two of his ghost ships destroyed, fled like the coward he is revealing him to be the false messiah.


JiaLei Lian
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.24 13:32:00 - [2]
 

Tell yourself what you must. Your defeat at his hands remains inevitable.

Dilaro thagriin
Posted - 2011.01.24 13:38:00 - [3]
 

All of this has happened before
All of this will happen again

Last time he left all of his loyalist forces to burn, so that he might live

They seem to have forgotten

Or perhaps been reprogrammed not to believe.

General Stargazer
Minmatar
Moira.
Posted - 2011.01.24 13:49:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: JiaLei Lian
Tell yourself what you must. Your defeat at the hands of his lackeys remains inevitable.


Considering he himself has only appeared twice publicly and only once in a vessel capable of any degree of destruction - I fixed what you was meant to say.

All I can say JiaLei Lian, is given the more recent quote of your master, No "king" will rule forever, there will always be resistance to any attempt on the lives of the innocent and every kingdom is only the creation of boundaries waiting to be conquered.

While your battles may be victorious, you will eventually fail, the might of the empires will prevail and I will be there to see it happen and remind you of this moment.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.01.24 14:38:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Syn Callibri on 24/01/2011 15:59:14
Originally by: JiaLei Lian
Tell yourself what you must. Your defeat at his hands remains inevitable.


The Amarr said the same thing about our people...and look where that got them.


Niraia
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
Posted - 2011.01.24 15:23:00 - [6]
 

Do you always feel you have to say something, regardless of how irrelevant it is, in order to appear relevant?

Doctor Carbonatite
Corporation for Public Broadcasting
Posted - 2011.01.24 15:29:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Llyandrian
Edited by: Llyandrian on 24/01/2011 13:52:57

Sansha Kuvakei, the embodiment of the Great Deceiver reveals the depth of his deception for the truly faithful.

Those not present at Yulai should be made aware that his forces were defeated by Heroes of Humanity and Kuvakei, two of his ghost ships destroyed, fled like the coward he is revealing him to be the false messiah.




Trying to spread disinformation?

Nation's ships were more destroyed by the spacetime anomalies than capsuleers, and the fact that it took that plus 1700 capsuleers to bring down only two Nation ships doesn't speak well for your argument at all. One of the ships even went down several minutes AFTER the operation was concluded - the local anomalies prevented it from leaving. Our operations were at worst more than a success.

Additionally, you seem to have no idea at all what happened in Promised Land immediately following Yulai, so really, just keep your ignorant mouth shut.

Ogogov
Gallente
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.01.24 15:51:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Doctor Carbonatite
Originally by: Llyandrian
Edited by: Llyandrian on 24/01/2011 13:52:57

Sansha Kuvakei, the embodiment of the Great Deceiver reveals the depth of his deception for the truly faithful.

Those not present at Yulai should be made aware that his forces were defeated by Heroes of Humanity and Kuvakei, two of his ghost ships destroyed, fled like the coward he is revealing him to be the false messiah.




Trying to spread disinformation?

Nation's ships were more destroyed by the spacetime anomalies than capsuleers, and the fact that it took that plus 1700 capsuleers to bring down only two Nation ships doesn't speak well for your argument at all. One of the ships even went down several minutes AFTER the operation was concluded - the local anomalies prevented it from leaving. Our operations were at worst more than a success.

Additionally, you seem to have no idea at all what happened in Promised Land immediately following Yulai, so really, just keep your ignorant mouth shut.


Interestingly, it would have taken only a hundred or so capsuleers if CONCORD did not insist on its inane restrictions of capsuleer capital vessels in empire space. I'd like to see one of those Revenant class vessels hold up under sustained fire from a null-sec alliance supercapital fleet almost as much as I'd like to pick through the wreckage afterwards...


Gen Kumon
Caldari
Naqam
Shaktipat Revelators
Posted - 2011.01.24 18:00:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Ogogov


Interestingly, it would have taken only a hundred or so capsuleers if CONCORD did not insist on its inane restrictions of capsuleer capital vessels in empire space. I'd like to see one of those Revenant class vessels hold up under sustained fire from a null-sec alliance supercapital fleet almost as much as I'd like to pick through the wreckage afterwards...




So you say. However, if you'll examine what happened in Promised Land, a low-security system, the only capital ship to show up was a Chimera-class carrier piloted by Ghost Hunter, a Nation loyalist. It would seem that your vaunted null-sec alliances are far too scared of actually taking losses to move against Nation. That's what happens when the only motivation driving you is greed, I suppose.

ValentinaDLM
Minmatar
Ubi Concordia Ibi Victoria
Posted - 2011.01.24 18:45:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: ValentinaDLM on 24/01/2011 18:45:11
Haha, anyone who thinks the Nation lost in Yulai/Promised land is grossly misinformed. The Nation accomplished it's objectives. Really instead of being so delusional about things, those that fought against The Nation yesterday should be begging Master Kuvakei for forgiveness.

Llyandrian
Amarr
Livestock Science Exchange
Posted - 2011.01.24 19:39:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Llyandrian on 26/01/2011 13:31:39
Originally by: Doctor Carbonatite

Originally by: Llyandrian

Sansha Kuvakei, the embodiment of the Great Deceiver reveals the depth of his deception for the truly faithful.

Those not present at Yulai should be made aware that his forces were defeated by Heroes of Humanity and Kuvakei, two of his ghost ships destroyed, fled like the coward he is revealing him to be the false messiah.




Trying to spread disinformation?

Nation's ships were more destroyed by the spacetime anomalies than capsuleers, and the fact that it took that plus 1700 capsuleers to bring down only two Nation ships doesn't speak well for your argument at all. One of the ships even went down several minutes AFTER the operation was concluded - the local anomalies prevented it from leaving. Our operations were at worst more than a success.

Additionally, you seem to have no idea at all what happened in Promised Land immediately following Yulai, so really, just keep your ignorant mouth shut.


The words of the devotees of the Great Deceiver carry as little truth with the faithful as the deceivers own lies.

Y113.1.23 will go down in history as the day the 1700 Heroes of Humanity stood before the Deceiver and banished him through steadfast defiance.

Disteeler
Perkone
Posted - 2011.01.24 19:54:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Disteeler on 24/01/2011 19:54:39
Not that I'm happy about it, but I think Kuvakei was succesful in his objective. If I got it right, he went to Yulai to get plasma from the star (and he got it) and later used it to open a stable wormhole from Promised Land to somewhere, probably Stain.

I might had got it completely wrong, but Kuvakei himselft spoke openly about it, tho a bit criptic I might add.

Marenteius
Caldari
Red Coats
Posted - 2011.01.24 20:33:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Gen Kumon
So you say. However, if you'll examine what happened in Promised Land, a low-security system, the only capital ship to show up was a Chimera-class carrier piloted by Ghost Hunter, a Nation loyalist. It would seem that your vaunted null-sec alliances are far too scared of actually taking losses to move against Nation. That's what happens when the only motivation driving you is greed, I suppose.


You actually think the null-sec alliances are scared of nation? now thats a laugh. If anything, the null-sec alliances are barely noticing nation, what with their own wars and skirmishes on going. The one time a null-sec alliance engaged sansha vessels was a month of two ago when Pandemic Legion was contracted to fight them, and we all remember how that ended=)

Mel Lifera
Gallente
Ambrye Logistics Ltd.
Posted - 2011.01.24 22:54:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: ValentinaDLM
Edited by: ValentinaDLM on 24/01/2011 18:45:11
Haha, anyone who thinks the Nation lost in Yulai/Promised land is grossly misinformed. The Nation accomplished it's objectives. Really instead of being so delusional about things, those that fought against The Nation yesterday should be begging Master Kuvakei for forgiveness.


How ridiculous. The great Kuvakei reduced to 'stealing' plasma, a universally-abundant substance, so that he could build a pointless bridge from a system where nobody is (Promised Land) to a region where nobody wants to go (Stain). We are supposed to behold this with awe?

Yesterday, Kuvakei issued a threat to eliminate or somehow damage CONCORD. His threat proved impotent. Rationalize away his spectacular failure all you want.

Weynard
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
Posted - 2011.01.24 23:13:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mel Lifera
Yesterday, Kuvakei issued a threat to eliminate or somehow damage CONCORD. His threat proved impotent. Rationalize away his spectacular failure all you want.


First of all, how and why should you know about success or failure of anything CONCORD-related? It took them almost a year to release the oh-so-important Ishaeka reports, I don't think CONCORD would disclose any of their failures to the likes of you.

The fact is, it took you 1700 pilots, of which many lost their ships in the process, to take down two Nation vessels and their escorts, all of whom were reborn shortly thereafter, and you didn't even manage to hinder Nation from acheiving its goals.
Do you think a Nation, whose power and potential lead the four "mighty empires" into waging a war (that was uncalled for), and that had a century to prepare, can be brought down by YOU?

You say that we wouldn't stand a chance if nullsec alliances would enter the fray. Well, it looks like nullsec alliances don't really care about what happens to the empires. Which is understandable, if I may.

And that goes without mentioning CONCORD is not HELPING you in any way. You claim that Master Kuvakei would deceive us, that our "blind loyalty" shall be our demise, yet you neither have any proof nor can you do any better than blindly relying on somebody else yourself. But that was already mentioned quite often, wasn't it...?

My motivation is unchanged. Now, more than ever, with tens of thousands of ignorant, greedy drones against us, the Friends and Soldiers of the Nation unite under Sanshas banner, to bring unity and peace to New Eden! For the Nation!

Disteeler
Perkone
Posted - 2011.01.24 23:34:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Mel Lifera
Originally by: ValentinaDLM
Edited by: ValentinaDLM on 24/01/2011 18:45:11
Haha, anyone who thinks the Nation lost in Yulai/Promised land is grossly misinformed. The Nation accomplished it's objectives. Really instead of being so delusional about things, those that fought against The Nation yesterday should be begging Master Kuvakei for forgiveness.


How ridiculous. The great Kuvakei reduced to 'stealing' plasma, a universally-abundant substance, so that he could build a pointless bridge from a system where nobody is (Promised Land) to a region where nobody wants to go (Stain). We are supposed to behold this with awe?

Yesterday, Kuvakei issued a threat to eliminate or somehow damage CONCORD. His threat proved impotent. Rationalize away his spectacular failure all you want.


I think Yulai sun is a rare type or something, I will check whenever I have some time to search in the database. Anyway, you should check the logs of Yulais battle at: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1455444

[ 113.01.23 21:07:29 ] Master Kuvakei > Begin plasma core extraction.
[ 113.01.23 21:10:56 ] Master Kuvakei > Begin core fragment harvest operation one.
[ 113.01.23 21:11:44 ] Master Kuvakei > Begin core fragment harvest operation two.
[ 113.01.23 21:17:09 ] Master Kuvakei > Preparing conduit alpha.
...
[ 113.01.23 21:46:12 ] Master Kuvakei > Operation complete. Proceed to the Promised Land.
...
[ 113.01.24 00:16:07 ] Master Kuvakei > My children, the conduit remains. We are victorious.

saynonutty
Posted - 2011.01.25 00:23:00 - [17]
 

Here it is, the Calm before the Storm. . .

we shall see what comes to pass on this one.

Doctor Carbonatite
Corporation for Public Broadcasting
Posted - 2011.01.25 00:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Llyandrian

The words of the devotees of the Great Deceiver carry as little true with the faithful as the deceivers own lies.

Y113.1.23 will go down in history as the day the 1700 Heroes of Humanity stood before the Deceiver and banished him through their steadfast defiance.



Wow, you Amarr don't waste much time rewriting history to suit your egos, do you?

saynonutty
Posted - 2011.01.25 00:33:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Doctor Carbonatite
Originally by: Llyandrian

The words of the devotees of the Great Deceiver carry as little true with the faithful as the deceivers own lies.

Y113.1.23 will go down in history as the day the 1700 Heroes of Humanity stood before the Deceiver and banished him through their steadfast defiance.



Wow, you Amarr don't waste much time rewriting history to suit your egos, do you?


ohh. . .we have a mirror it seems. . .

Originally by: Weynard
Originally by: Mel Lifera
Yesterday, Kuvakei issued a threat to eliminate or somehow damage CONCORD. His threat proved impotent. Rationalize away his spectacular failure all you want.



The fact is, it took you 1700 pilots, of which many lost their ships in the process, to take down two Nation vesselpires. Which is understandable, if I may.

Mel Lifera
Gallente
Ambrye Logistics Ltd.
Posted - 2011.01.25 00:53:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Mel Lifera on 25/01/2011 00:56:15

Originally by: Weynard
Originally by: Mel Lifera
Yesterday, Kuvakei issued a threat to eliminate or somehow damage CONCORD. His threat proved impotent. Rationalize away his spectacular failure all you want.


First of all, how and why should you know about success or failure of anything CONCORD-related? It took them almost a year to release the oh-so-important Ishaeka reports, I don't think CONCORD would disclose any of their failures to the likes of you.


I was at Yulai yesterday, from the time Sansha began their invasion until the moment they fled. And anyone who's been out and about today will have noticed that CONCORD is not even slightly diminished in its capacity to carry out its functions.

Originally by: Weynard
The fact is, it took you 1700 pilots, of which many lost their ships in the process, to take down two Nation vessels and their escorts, all of whom were reborn shortly thereafter, and you didn't even manage to hinder Nation from acheiving its goals.


Nonsense. Most of the 1700 pilots in system did not even engage; and of those that did, maybe two dozen of their ships were actually destroyed; whereas I personally witnessed the destruction of what you call 'two vessels and their escorts', which in reality amounted to many, many tens of, if not a couple hundred, Sansha battleships, cruisers, and frigates.

Originally by: Weynard
Do you think a Nation, whose power and potential lead the four "mighty empires" into waging a war (that was uncalled for), and that had a century to prepare, can be brought down by YOU?



Can and will. Kuvakei seems to still believe that his so-called immortality and the ability of his slaves to be reborn makes him superior. But these are traits which even the lowliest capsuleer can claim. And we still have what Kuvakei did and does not have, that which cost him the last war he attempted to wage: thousands of fully autonomous wills and minds, to be pitted against thousands of shadows of only one, singularly deluded mind.

Maximum Kiely
Caldari
Kiely and Son Salvage
Posted - 2011.01.25 16:03:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: JiaLei Lian
Tell yourself what you must. Your defeat at his hands remains inevitable.


Overconfidence is a weakness that is easily exploited... your "Master" preaches weakness into you.

Weakness of mind, weakness of character and the weakness to call another "Master". Those who are truly free, and therefore truly powerful, never allow another to establish dominion over them.

You spout fallacies that rival "down is up", "white is black" and "big is small" and foolishly demand those with stronger minds heed your call. You are a blight, a pox, a festering beacon of conformity and a sad testament to the sponge like porosity of simpler minds.

You would be easily crushed if only those with stronger minds, but unfortunately bigger egos, could unite to do so.


Ogogov
Gallente
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.01.26 05:25:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Gen Kumon
Originally by: Ogogov


Interestingly, it would have taken only a hundred or so capsuleers if CONCORD did not insist on its inane restrictions of capsuleer capital vessels in empire space. I'd like to see one of those Revenant class vessels hold up under sustained fire from a null-sec alliance supercapital fleet almost as much as I'd like to pick through the wreckage afterwards...




So you say. However, if you'll examine what happened in Promised Land, a low-security system, the only capital ship to show up was a Chimera-class carrier piloted by Ghost Hunter, a Nation loyalist. It would seem that your vaunted null-sec alliances are far too scared of actually taking losses to move against Nation. That's what happens when the only motivation driving you is greed, I suppose.


Perhaps if CONCORD were to relax its idiotic policies and allow us to operate our full capabilities within empire space, they would not find us so reticent to engage them on equal footing. Not all us capsuleers lack the conscience of empire lapdogs when it comes to throwing human lives away in futile, endless conflicts. As it is, they are content to throw billions of lives away to maintain appearances.

They are as pathetic as the the Sansha themselves.

As you clearly lack intelligence beyond the average zombie, let me express myself more bluntly. I can confidently claim that any Sansha interference in even the weakest of alliance's operations will surely be crushed with an alacrity and finality you will find hard to believe. I don't doubt they will even find it hard to deal with those incompetent clowns in Delve, should they feel their strings pulled in that direction...

Lord Mollem
Gallente
Malicious Destruction
War Against the Manifest
Posted - 2011.01.26 16:03:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Maximum Kiely
Overconfidence is a weakness that is easily exploited... your "Master" preaches weakness into you.

Weakness of mind, weakness of character and the weakness to call another "Master". Those who are truly free, and therefore truly powerful, never allow another to establish dominion over them.

You spout fallacies that rival "down is up", "white is black" and "big is small" and foolishly demand those with stronger minds heed your call. You are a blight, a pox, a festering beacon of conformity and a sad testament to the sponge like porosity of simpler minds.

You would be easily crushed if only those with stronger minds, but unfortunately bigger egos, could unite to do so.




Well Said!

Tiberious Thessalonia
Amarr
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Posted - 2011.01.26 17:04:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Maximum Kiely
Originally by: JiaLei Lian
Tell yourself what you must. Your defeat at his hands remains inevitable.


Overconfidence is a weakness that is easily exploited... your "Master" preaches weakness into you.

Weakness of mind, weakness of character and the weakness to call another "Master". Those who are truly free, and therefore truly powerful, never allow another to establish dominion over them.

You spout fallacies that rival "down is up", "white is black" and "big is small" and foolishly demand those with stronger minds heed your call. You are a blight, a pox, a festering beacon of conformity and a sad testament to the sponge like porosity of simpler minds.

You would be easily crushed if only those with stronger minds, but unfortunately bigger egos, could unite to do so.




you know, I was just thinking of how a lot of things I've heard Nation pilots say to me have come across sounding very much like 'War is Peace'. Hell, 'Freedom is slavery' seems to be their motto.

Maximum Kiely
Caldari
Kiely and Son Salvage
Posted - 2011.01.26 21:59:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Tiberious Thessalonia
Hell, 'Freedom is slavery' seems to be their motto.


Or vice versa Tiberious.


 

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