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Crushall
Caldari
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:48:00 - [1]
 

Hunting people in empire without having the ability to remove neutrals from overview makes pvp near impossible in highly populated systems. Please fix the overview, CCP. You broke it!

Jessica Lane
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:51:00 - [2]
 

I second that... Wont catch me in a trade hub with this crap going on. Please fix it CCP!

Aerin Schneider
Rogue Raiders
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:52:00 - [3]
 

If they are WT or flagged, shouldn't they be blinking? Else they will be neutral and then I'm lost as to what you are asking Rolling Eyes

Eura Sukor
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:53:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Crushall
Hunting people in empire without having the ability to remove neutrals from overview makes pvp near impossible in highly populated systems. Please fix the overview, CCP. You broke it!

You can see your overview from the login screen?

Estel Arador
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:55:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Aerin Schneider
If they are WT or flagged, shouldn't they be blinking? Else they will be neutral and then I'm lost as to what you are asking Rolling Eyes


Removing neutrals from the overview reduces clutter and ensures you don't accidentally target them. It's standard practice for empire PvP.

Crushall
Caldari
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:55:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Crushall on 21/01/2011 00:55:30
They are mixed in with neutrals, so there is essentially no filter which makes locking people in time very difficult. You don't have to agree with empire pvp, but this needs to be fixed.

CCP Greyscale

Posted - 2011.01.21 00:58:00 - [7]
 

This was a side-effect of making the "neutral" tag show up just for neutral contacts (as opposed to non-contacts, because it's an important difference to some people), but the change carried across to the filtering tab too. CCP Punkturis split them into two separate settings in both places this afternoon; I don't know what the deployment schedule is on that particular fix, but I can tell you that we we're aware of the issue and we have a solution in the pipe.

Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:00:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: CCP Greyscale
This was a side-effect of making the "neutral" tag show up just for neutral contacts (as opposed to non-contacts, because it's an important difference to some people), but the change carried across to the filtering tab too. CCP Punkturis split them into two separate settings in both places this afternoon; I don't know what the deployment schedule is on that particular fix, but I can tell you that we we're aware of the issue and we have a solution in the pipe.


I KNEW you guys were smoking something!

Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:00:00 - [9]
 

Good news, our overview settings will once again show neutrals with the chose background/tab colour. Very Happy

Crushall
Caldari
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:00:00 - [10]
 

I hope you guys do figure this out. Just makes things way difficult and those accidential Concordings!

Estel Arador
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:03:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: CCP Greyscale
This was a side-effect of making the "neutral" tag show up just for neutral contacts (as opposed to non-contacts, because it's an important difference to some people),

Will there be an option to show an icon for non-contacts? I quite liked having everyone show a tag of some type.

Mollytehminer
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:17:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Mollytehminer on 21/01/2011 01:18:11
Originally by: Estel Arador

Will there be an option to show an icon for non-contacts? I quite liked having everyone show a tag of some type.


It gave the chat window a clearer look with everyone tagged with something. In my opinion at least.

Estel Arador
Posted - 2011.01.21 02:16:00 - [13]
 

Exactly!

Amy Darkfire
Posted - 2011.01.21 02:37:00 - [14]
 

glad this is being fixed, now how about letting us freeze the overview again?

Kim Trader
Posted - 2011.01.21 11:47:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Kim Trader on 21/01/2011 11:50:02
Originally by: Crushall
Hunting people in empire without having the ability to remove neutrals from overview makes pvp near impossible in highly populated systems. Please fix the overview, CCP. You broke it!


Please fix this asap CCP. Youre ruining our eve gameplay! Cant even roam in empire anymore cos the war targets dont even show up on overview unless u start scrolling down the list and by that time they're long gone.

Talon Reese
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:02:00 - [16]
 

I had a war target in local last night who at first had the correct red star tag. Then next time I undocked, the tag had changed to the "low sec status" tag for no reason. Later it changed again. Pretty annoying if we can tell war targets are around to gank you.

Talaan Stardrifter
Universal Exports
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:51:00 - [17]
 

Any word on when the Filter State logic will be fixed?

leich
Amarr
Sad Panda'z
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:21:00 - [18]
 

Glad to know there is a fix going in.

But when is the overview going to be tweeked? it really needs a revamp. Im not on about starting from Scratch but options like being able to freeze have different Colour symbols and tags on for different overview settings. Ability to add more tabs. a proper way to edit bracket profiles.

there is a whole pile of minor changes which would make the game so much easier to play than it currently is.

NoScream
Amarr
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:26:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: CCP Greyscale
This was a side-effect of making the "neutral" tag show up just for neutral contacts (as opposed to non-contacts, because it's an important difference to some people), but the change carried across to the filtering tab too. CCP Punkturis split them into two separate settings in both places this afternoon; I don't know what the deployment schedule is on that particular fix, but I can tell you that we we're aware of the issue and we have a solution in the pipe.


Thanks God,

It's a nightmare having neuts on special tabs & also fix the CTRL KEY function that holds the overview static when ships change distance to you.

At least CCP acknowledge that it's happenin' ... Cool

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:34:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: CCP Greyscale
This was a side-effect of making the "neutral" tag show up just for neutral contacts (as opposed to non-contacts, because it's an important difference to some people)
Yes. Yes it is, and it's a very nice change too…

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:41:00 - [21]
 

Wouldn't hurt to add more colours to increase the amount of options on overview/contacts etc.

JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:47:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: JC Anderson on 21/01/2011 14:53:59

Originally by: Aerin Schneider
If they are WT or flagged, shouldn't they be blinking? Else they will be neutral and then I'm lost as to what you are asking Rolling Eyes


As an example..

Sometimes, we end up taking hi sec war dec contracts as is normal with any merc corp/alliance. Due to the nature of these contracts, a merc may often find themselves hunting in trade hubs in order to target enemy logistics and supply.

As you likely already know, trade hubs such as jita tend to be fairly crowded with a constant flow both in and out of these systems. Therefore it is prudent to reduce the amount of clutter on the overview.

Normally we would make a tab to completely remove neutrals from the overview while keeping war targets visible. That was of course until the recent patch broke this functionality and made it so that removal of neutrals in the overview settings essentially does nothing.

Renee Adoree
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:53:00 - [23]
 

this should be a number one priority fix.

It is much more annoying then 500% ROF increase on everyones ships
I kinda like that bug can you leave that one in?

;)

Crushall
Caldari
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.01.21 18:05:00 - [24]
 

Hey, still not fixed! This makes pvping in the game practically impossible if you war dec people for hi sec purposes! WTF.

Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Gank Bangers
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:19:00 - [25]
 

I'm not one to normally agree with Snatch Evil or Very Mad
But regarding this Overview Mess-up I have to agree with Crushall, It's nearly impossible to fight in heavy populated systems where you have over 100 neutrals in your overview and then the wartargets.

Plz Fix this!!! It did not get fix on today's patch. This should be a priority more than anything else!!!

Crushall
Caldari
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:50:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Crushall on 21/01/2011 21:50:44
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
I'm not one to normally agree with Snatch Evil or Very Mad
But regarding this Overview Mess-up I have to agree with Crushall, It's nearly impossible to fight in heavy populated systems where you have over 100 neutrals in your overview and then the wartargets.

Plz Fix this!!! It did not get fix on today's patch. This should be a priority more than anything else!!!

We don't normally agree, yes, but this is ridiculous. The overview is one of those few things that cannot be messed with in such a horribly irresponsible way.

Major Snitch
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:04:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Major Snitch on 21/01/2011 22:07:40
Originally by: Crushall
Edited by: Crushall on 21/01/2011 21:50:44
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
I'm not one to normally agree with Snatch Evil or Very Mad
But regarding this Overview Mess-up I have to agree with Crushall, It's nearly impossible to fight in heavy populated systems where you have over 100 neutrals in your overview and then the wartargets.

Plz Fix this!!! It did not get fix on today's patch. This should be a priority more than anything else!!!

We don't normally agree, yes, but this is ridiculous. The overview is one of those few things that cannot be messed with in such a horribly irresponsible way.
i agree with you this is ridiculous and highly irresponsible of CCP. Day two this should have been top of there list to fix.... the DEV should be embarrassedEmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassed

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:11:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
This should be a priority more than anything else!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHahahhahahahhaaahaahaha.. *pantpant* HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA no.

Wendy Staple
Posted - 2011.01.22 10:50:00 - [29]
 

Still not fixed. ETA on this big issue?

Sverige Pahis
Caldari
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.22 11:27:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
This was a side-effect of making the "neutral" tag show up just for neutral contacts (as opposed to non-contacts, because it's an important difference to some people),

Will there be an option to show an icon for non-contacts? I quite liked having everyone show a tag of some type.


This I hope.


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