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Ishamel 1
Burning Vendetta
Posted - 2011.01.19 21:11:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Borealis Nebulae
It's like making a game about ww2 and then suddenly changing the way soldiers look like the ones from middle ages.

But guess modern eve community is too WoW and [insert trend of the hour here] infested and they don't know anything about the backstory or don't care it at all.

Trolling comment removed - Adida

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So where in the back story does it say people wear geeky sci-fi outfits? In any case in many cases eve-tech is barely ahead of the present why should the clothes be any different?

s666ss666ss666
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:17:00 - [32]
 

Technology in New Eden is about 8000 years more advanced than modern technology, if we assume that spaceflight is a useful reference point for human achievement.

That in mind, the lack of holographic eye pieces, visible implants on the head proper, ect. is mega lame, and hopefully CCP will add content, preferable some of it available for moderate ISK values (350mil for a plex is more than a little too rich for a shirt or a pair of pants for me) over the coming months and years.

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:30:00 - [33]
 

While nano-tech codpieces sound cool to sci-fi nerds, they were and will forever be only worn by losers.

Good style does not fade, only the details. The pants, shirt and jacket combo has been around for hundreds of years, and there's few changes you can make without making them look utterly stupid.

And those have mostly been pushed by improvements in production technology.

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:37:00 - [34]
 

Were still in space right? Am i still able to fly a space ship and Shoot lasers at other space ships?

Kauyon Tash'var
Caldari
Caldari Elite Force
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:42:00 - [35]
 

What I'm really missing from the character creation is plenty of customization. Where is all the tattoos, electronic gadgets, scars? Also think that the clothing selection is too narrow, a bit more colourfull choises thank you and also, there's really way too few hairstyles to choose from.

All the other things are all fine, but I really miss the small things that you could have on your character before.
Specially loved the Minmatar big tribaltattoos to mark them out as being them and so on. Would really like if there'd be something like that implemented to the character creation again, since this is the time to make our characters, give us more customization options!

/Tash'

Cathy Drall
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:44:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Cathy Drall on 19/01/2011 22:45:27
Originally by: Borealis Nebulae
All characters look like they would be from 2011. All the clothes, all the boots, everything. Nothing futuristic. They look like the **** that comes out from fashion houses nowadays.

How again do futuristic clothes and hairstyles look?

That said, more options would indeed be very very welcome!

Tegan Karus
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:45:00 - [37]
 

ffs people, sure the variety isnt there right now, but the framework is there, I was never expecting huge variety at the start, Im surprised some were. The game world is stable with the new functionality and I expect clothing variety and other char options will be added later.

Gillaboo
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:50:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Borealis Nebulae
Yes, it's now official. All characters look like they would be from 2011. All the clothes, all the boots, everything. Nothing futuristic. They look like the **** that comes out from fashion houses nowadays.

Bad CCP, really bad... The actual carbon human modeling is great, but the clothes and lack of any deco we had is simply too much. EVE is gone.


Awfully critical for something only a day old and in it's first iteration.

Since you obviously won't be around when these avatars receive the inevitable buffs before Station-Walking.... can I have your stuff?

Rolling Eyes

Tegan Karus
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:54:00 - [39]
 


Since you obviously won't be around when these avatars receive the inevitable buffs before Station-Walking.... can I have your stuff?

Well said Gillaboo, but that is a 20 euro fine for saying "can I have your stuff".

Michael McNeil
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:21:00 - [40]
 

More then likely we will have to pay for the sci-fi looking clothing, the clothing that would signify that you are successful and arrogant by showing this off.

Either way, I like the clothing.

Ben DoverMiss
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:34:00 - [41]
 

I fully agree with the initial poster.

The effort that went in to programming the ability to change some facial and body features is really lost when the primary cover and display of the avatars is the clothing for all but the closest of close-ups.

Seriously, as I wrote in another post, I cannot believe how easily satiated and entertained the majority of the Eve community is. This may speak of too many characters that were bought or traded for vs. created, or of other issues, but no populace that created and lived with their original characters for this long would be as stoned and happy with our limited choices as I've read here on the forums.

The game, and character creation, took another step backward. I see too many plastic-looking faces on avatars, and other than you just spent hours creating the look that you ended up with, I see little reason for many of us to be happy or proud with the end-product vs. what was, now that I've gone back to look at a number of old avatars, a system that I consider equal to, or above, this.


Tegan Karus
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:39:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Ben DoverMiss
I fully agree with the initial poster.

The effort that went in to programming the ability to change some facial and body features is really lost when the primary cover and display of the avatars is the clothing for all but the closest of close-ups.

Seriously, as I wrote in another post, I cannot believe how easily satiated and entertained the majority of the Eve community is. This may speak of too many characters that were bought or traded for vs. created, or of other issues, but no populace that created and lived with their original characters for this long would be as stoned and happy with our limited choices as I've read here on the forums.

The game, and character creation, took another step backward. I see too many plastic-looking faces on avatars, and other than you just spent hours creating the look that you ended up with, I see little reason for many of us to be happy or proud with the end-product vs. what was, now that I've gone back to look at a number of old avatars, a system that I consider equal to, or above, this.




Ben DoverMiss, If you consider the old character creation process as I quote "a system that I consider equal to, or above, this". I totally disagree. I am biting my tongue right now so as not to get banned or something, that is so wrong.

Ben DoverMiss
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:41:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Tegan Karus
ffs people, sure the variety isnt there right now, but the framework is there, I was never expecting huge variety at the start, Im surprised some were. The game world is stable with the new functionality and I expect clothing variety and other char options will be added later.


Screwing with the variety we had to offer us less, really, than we had is not any sort of improvement.

For all of the time, effort, and advertising this character-creation debut was given, HOW HOW HOW can you not criticize it for all that it lacks?!

No one is asking for anything much beyond at LEAST the options we have had in the past.

You know what this is? WIth modern technology and programming, CCP took the easy way out again. The character creator seems high-tech, but in the computer modeling world it is merely OK. SO CCP offered it, but got really, really lazy with their own creative styles and offerings, thus we have the limited options that everyone gets to choose from.

If you're really defending CCP, you've never opened your eyes to see consumerism and the corporate ability to trick many buyers over and over again.

Ben DoverMiss
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:43:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Ben DoverMiss on 19/01/2011 23:46:33
Originally by: Tegan Karus

Ben DoverMiss, If you consider the old character creation process as I quote "a system that I consider equal to, or above, this". I totally disagree. I am biting my tongue right now so as not to get banned or something, that is so wrong.


I do, and it may not be readily apparent for all the work some of you have put into character bodies that are inevitably covered up with the same clothing, but save for the happiness that many of you seem to have with tuning the little intricacies you have, I don't believe we have - on the whole - ended up with anything better when one looks at a large number of avatars.

Of the last character I created with the old system, I pretty much was able to manipulate all of the upper-body forms just like this one. This does give us the ability to modify the torso and down, but I haven't seen how that's important, nor is it very relevant since even those options are limited (I'm sure a number of guys wanted to create themselves, but we can't make avatars as fat as many players are).

Really, I see more natural-ness and at least equal individuality in the old ones.

Ai Shun
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:43:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
Would you need pockets in a digital, cashless, my PDA and "cell phone" are cranial implants, world?


I need somewhere to put a packet of smokes.

Emilie Sunstrider
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:46:00 - [46]
 

i missed some acessories like tatoos and those funny things to put on my head, but losing the sci-fi theme? hell no.
its just the new fashion season! or are you wearing the same clothes from the 60's?

Tegan Karus
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:46:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Ben DoverMiss
Originally by: Tegan Karus
ffs people, sure the variety isnt there right now, but the framework is there, I was never expecting huge variety at the start, Im surprised some were. The game world is stable with the new functionality and I expect clothing variety and other char options will be added later.


Screwing with the variety we had to offer us less, really, than we had is not any sort of improvement.

For all of the time, effort, and advertising this character-creation debut was given, HOW HOW HOW can you not criticize it for all that it lacks?!

No one is asking for anything much beyond at LEAST the options we have had in the past.

You know what this is? WIth modern technology and programming, CCP took the easy way out again. The character creator seems high-tech, but in the computer modeling world it is merely OK. SO CCP offered it, but got really, really lazy with their own creative styles and offerings, thus we have the limited options that everyone gets to choose from.

If you're really defending CCP, you've never opened your eyes to see consumerism and the corporate ability to trick many buyers over and over again.


Ben DoverMiss That was an awesome post, I appreciate what you are driving at, and understand your pov. I guess my expectations regarding the char creator were lower than yours. Thanks for the comment anyway

Ben DoverMiss
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:48:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Tegan Karus
Originally by: Ben DoverMiss
Originally by: Tegan Karus
ffs people, sure the variety isnt there right now, but the framework is there, I was never expecting huge variety at the start, Im surprised some were. The game world is stable with the new functionality and I expect clothing variety and other char options will be added later.


Screwing with the variety we had to offer us less, really, than we had is not any sort of improvement.

For all of the time, effort, and advertising this character-creation debut was given, HOW HOW HOW can you not criticize it for all that it lacks?!

No one is asking for anything much beyond at LEAST the options we have had in the past.

You know what this is? WIth modern technology and programming, CCP took the easy way out again. The character creator seems high-tech, but in the computer modeling world it is merely OK. SO CCP offered it, but got really, really lazy with their own creative styles and offerings, thus we have the limited options that everyone gets to choose from.

If you're really defending CCP, you've never opened your eyes to see consumerism and the corporate ability to trick many buyers over and over again.


Ben DoverMiss That was an awesome post, I appreciate what you are driving at, and understand your pov. I guess my expectations regarding the char creator were lower than yours. Thanks for the comment anyway


Winning me over with kindness and empathy ... might get you somewhere.

I'm a fool for that like most everyone else, lol.

Gillaboo
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:53:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Michael McNeil
More then likely we will have to pay for the sci-fi looking clothing, the clothing that would signify that you are successful and arrogant by showing this off.

Either way, I like the clothing.


Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see CCP come up with an entire selection of "Fashion Accessories" and "Avatar Stuff" for online purchase when Station-Walking is released.

Some "rare" items, also for avatars, incorporated into loot drops and/or LP Stores would be a massive win-win, too.

Tegan Karus
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:55:00 - [50]
 

Ben, I would say though, the character creator has its faults but I spent probably 10 hours with it creating 2 chars before I came up with this. The longer you spend with it, the more you see is possible, but sure, I want hotpants for my char asap.

Stan Smith
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:12:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Ai Shun
Originally by: stoicfaux
Would you need pockets in a digital, cashless, my PDA and "cell phone" are cranial implants, world?


I need somewhere to put a packet of smokes.


Or a concealed weapon, untracable currency, secret information drops, you know, basic stuff for someone living on the fringes of society

Crimson Dahlia
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:16:00 - [52]
 

Sounds like the OP should be playing the SIMs.

Orb Lati
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:30:00 - [53]
 

listen to this and tell me that his comments on colour fashion doesn't ring true to eves selection choices in clothing

http://www.redlettermedia.com/insurrection.html

Blacks, Browns and Beige....Earth Tones People! that's what everyone will wear in the future.

Could of at least done primary/secondary channel selections to each clothing article and let players have some choice in colour.

So many things missing in the new character creator and I have the sinking feeling we wont see them until CCP have finalised their micro-transaction mechanic, not to mention the additional cash charge to change your portrait.

Taak Coram
Gallente
Outdated Host Productions
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:57:00 - [54]
 

To quote Firefly,

Wash-"Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction!"
Zoe-"You live in a spaceship, dear."
Wash-"So?"


Kiblete
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:03:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Akirei Scytale
honestly, scifi consistently gets ******ed the second they try too hard to make things look "futuristic", especially clothes and simple items. you want good scifi? look at something like Firefly.


Or NBSg, farscape, Space above and beyond. Jump suits arent SciFi

Arcirya
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:10:00 - [56]
 

I agree that the unqiue looks of the four different races have been watered down, and so has the general ability to make characters that look 'out there'. Gallente in particular had lots of weird costume options, but nothing in the character creator right now comes close to resembling that.

Vaneshi SnowCrash
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:11:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
Were still in space right? Am i still able to fly a space ship and Shoot lasers at other space ships?


No, if you'd read the patch notes you'd have seen that lasers were replaced with rubber ducky squeakers.

Aria Selenis
Minmatar
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:15:00 - [58]
 

Quote:
In any case in many cases eve-tech is barely ahead of the present why should the clothes be any different?


So where do I sign up to be an immortal flying a ship the size of a city which not only travels through space, but does so in a way we still consider theoretically impossible? Laughing

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:18:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Borealis Nebulae
Yes, it's now official. All characters look like they would be from 2011. All the clothes, all the boots, everything. Nothing futuristic. They look like the **** that comes out from fashion houses nowadays.

Bad CCP, really bad...

The actual carbon human modeling is great, but the clothes and lack of any deco we had is simply too much.

EVE is gone.


So you are complaining because EvE is turning out to be more like Firefly than Star Trek?

GET BACK IN YOUR BOX

corpcreationalt
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:20:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Aria Selenis
Quote:
In any case in many cases eve-tech is barely ahead of the present why should the clothes be any different?


So where do I sign up to be an immortal flying a ship the size of a city which not only travels through space, but does so in a way we still consider theoretically impossible? Laughing


You can get those applications at your neighborhood home depot.
You can find instructions to build your own warp capable spacecraft complete with Asgard energy weapons and shields right here.


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