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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:08:00 - [361]
 

Whoever skinned the Retriever should be shot.

Zaerui
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:12:00 - [362]
 

Originally by: Misbehaviour
And speaking of epic fail...PI is biggest fail change i think i have ever seen in a game this far. I was able to extract all mineral types available on a planet before without having to change my setup for weeks, now that is impossible without a complete reconfig at the end of cycles/programs. PI changes mean all planets will need to be rebuilt and, major changes will be required at regular (daily) intervals in order to gather multiple resource types on same planet. The only thumbs up is the upgrade option to main facility. The rest of the PI changes are hugely problematic and will continue to be on a daily basis. I honestly find it hard to believe these changes are made by people who actually use PI at all. Epic fail! epic fail, epic fail....can i say it enough...i dont think soEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad


I'd have to second this comment. I went from having the ability to extract all resource types from a planet (at a reduced yield) to only being able to extract 2-3 types due to the power requirements of the extractor control units and my existing factory structure. This is a pretty easy problem to fix - just reduce the control unit power cost and increase the head cost; you can either have a lot of something or a little of many things. The reduction in clickfest is nice, but my PI production chain is now crippled. I'll work it out with my corpies to share the production burden around if CCP doesn't address this problem, but I feel for the solo players out there; it's now extremely difficult for a solo player to realistically make PI-material goods (was pretty difficult before, but now it's nearly impossible).

Deandra Walran
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:18:00 - [363]
 

Originally by: Misbehaviour
So many issues I don't know where to begin tbo, character creation will def need some improving and "grace period" should mean a period of time in which we can continue to change our avatar multiple times if needed.... current once only change is epic fail given how bare bones the options available are, and the crappy results they tend to produce

And speaking of epic fail...PI is biggest fail change i think i have ever seen in a game this far. I was able to extract all mineral types available on a planet before without having to change my setup for weeks, now that is impossible without a complete reconfig at the end of cycles/programs. PI changes mean all planets will need to be rebuilt and, major changes will be required at regular (daily) intervals in order to gather multiple resource types on same planet. The only thumbs up is the upgrade option to main facility. The rest of the PI changes are hugely problematic and will continue to be on a daily basis. I honestly find it hard to believe these changes are made by people who actually use PI at all. Epic fail! epic fail, epic fail....can i say it enough...i dont think soEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad


^this.

DeathDealerDan
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:19:00 - [364]
 

Ok just my two cents here , on the character creator it would be nice if the character would hold still while trying to edit the face makes it a pain in the royal arse.
Oh and seems to me that theres a little bit of racism going on in the game , mainly african americans are ALL minmatar. seems a little racism going on here.

Dieko
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:19:00 - [365]
 

FAIL CCP onley thing that has really made me sad in 3 years of eve why did we need this again ??? so we can freaking walk around in stasions and look good some time in distant future f..... that this is a spaceship game isent it? plz dont make this 2life ore hello kity adventure island!!! seriusly ccp start focusing like a lazor on PVP and how to get more peapol doing it focuse on what you have fore a year ore 2 make it beter then start adding more stuff

simmi2
Caldari
Chaos Rendering
STR8NGE BREW
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:21:00 - [366]
 

Originally by: salvador enrinea


yeaaaah... kinda excessive there pal... I wanted it.. just not like this.. as for "sack(ing)" whoever designed it... these are also the people that built the world that we play in... most games go through trial and error, so relax pal, they'll fix it.


I spose i was quite harsh now that i calmed down and i take back about sacking but i still think they need to take alook at what they have done with this expanion/patch and the ways they could of done stuff differently.

I have never complained about any of the previous expansions as i think they have done a good job with delivery of the expansion and its quality however this whole expansion just feels wrong from the first patch. I know its a massive expansion and was needed to be implimentated in smaller mini expansions (patches).

While fiddling around with the character creater you have the things which people have already talked about like black eye brows with brown hair and i cant seem to get it to look right the clothes dont seem right on the caldari its just the same items different colour. It just feels unfinished and could be so much more than what it is. So much effort and developer hours into a part of the game which is going to be used so little until incarna is released. I think they should play around with it improve it before incarna which is going to be the main use of these avatars and then allow us to give people the option to re-invent themselfs again.

I keep up to date with the dev blogs so i knew what was coming but i was neutral about this part of the expansion i was not bothered about super cool new avatars that look better than any other MMO. I was more interested in the sansha parts to be trueful which i have not had time to try out yet.

however on a positive note i do like the new PI its alot more engaging and different in a good way will take some getting used to but yes i like that. Controling all your extractors with one building is so much better (less clicks) and moving your extractors around bit to find the best extraction rate over the time you select e.g. 8 hours is so much more user friendly :)

New Character System - 5/10 feels unfinished and restricted to much to bloodlines which you cant change. When thinking of the future towards Incarna they need to improve the clothing by adding so much more choice think of the 50k players online at one time people are going to look to much the same.

New PI- 9/10 Better extraction system making it easier to use maybe less production but i wouldnt know as i stopped doing PI shortly after it was released but with me CCP achieved its goal of getting people back using PI.

willows trade2
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:25:00 - [367]
 

Epic fail!!

Keith Deteisrich
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:27:00 - [368]
 

CCP - Please STOP!

As you can see this new software patch was not ready.

I am losing CORP members because you have deleted their Photos / Avatars of
themselves.

Instead of running missions today I am having to help people search their hard
drives and try to tell them to please wait as CCP will fix.

Are you going to fix it or not?


Valaska
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:27:00 - [369]
 

Character Creator;


The "keeping races unique" and such is ruining any semblance to a human I can make with my Amarr... What are they born 50 years old? I mean come on, and the nose is -AWFUL- I can't make any edits to make my character look like a half normal human being.

At this point I just want to keep my old portrait I was able to at least make him look mid 30's... But this is just terrible. The races need to be a lot more flexible, or at least allow us to change, if I was given the option to change I'd go straight to Caldari Civre, they look normal!

Mr LaForge
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:28:00 - [370]
 

Opened contracts don't remember their window size after resizing them.

Wolf Spyder
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:31:00 - [371]
 

Edited by: Wolf Spyder on 19/01/2011 02:50:05
From what I read in the patch notes this patch is going to suck ass big time for a lot of players simply because some people don't choose pvp not because they are "care bears" and prefer the sanctity of high sec space. Some don't do it for the simple fact that they either don't want to participate in that part of eve or, like myself, they simply don't have access to a decent connection to participate in that area of the game. So they do missions and build stuff or support their corps through logistics. As a 5+ year dual account holder, I have enough Sp's to insta pop a planet and I'd like to PvP. Unfortunately my connection wont allow it as it is satellite based and I have no other option available. And to those that say move to where I have a better connection. I say give me the fracken money so I can otherwise SYFM.

By forcing this on every player in eve isn't going to bode too well for a lot of CCP's clients. For them the so called "path of least resistance" is going to find a game elsewhere to their liking. Who ever thought this snafu up must not have been sober or was smoking some really bad chronic when they decided to ramrod this idea down everyone's throats. Kinda like the health care bill that was recently shoved down our throats in the states. It was not very well thought out.

CCP may have just shot them selves in the foot with this one. Which is too bad. The reason I stayed so long is because of the diversity the game had for everyone. It had a lot to offer its players. Now with this "you will fight or else" mentality CCP has taken, I choose the "else" It was fun but now I gotta look else where for my entertainment. I hope CCP pulls their head out of their ass before they lose too many of their clients. It is poor business to cadre to one group of people. I get the distinct feeling CCP is competing against wow by turning it in to a fight only game. That's what turned me off of wow in less than a week. I got less than a month to go on my accounts If I don't like it or I lose too many ships because of this forced to fight mentality the game has been turned in to CCP will lose at least 2 accounts.......

Skyreth
Revelation of Wrath
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:32:00 - [372]
 

Anyone noticed that each race seems to be set to look like a certain age group.
IE. Minnies look like they are 18-25yrs old, Gallente 25-35yrs, Caldari 35-45yrs and Amarr with 45+ yrs old...just an odd thing i noticed when playing with the creator.

PropheticWarrior
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:37:00 - [373]
 

My first impressions are that I like the graphical improvements and I love the PI improvements. The days of endless clicking are gone!

I DO NOT like the character builder! I add my voice to the others on this thread who have asked for all character models be available. There are no dark skinned Caldari? I can't choose long hair on a guy? C'mon CCP! Fix that crap! Give us an open palette for designing characters. I've seen micro trans games with more character design options.

Valaska
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:38:00 - [374]
 

Originally by: Skyreth
Anyone noticed that each race seems to be set to look like a certain age group.
IE. Minnies look like they are 18-25yrs old, Gallente 25-35yrs, Caldari 35-45yrs and Amarr with 45+ yrs old...just an odd thing i noticed when playing with the creator.


Lol Amarr being 45 years? No no, 55-80's. I can't even bring myself to finalize my character, the one good thing about APB was having complete freedom of the character editor, Carbon was supposed to be BETTER! But I guess not.

Padraig O'Healey
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:49:00 - [375]
 

Prior to today, all neutral pilots, regardless of if they were set neutral to me or not, had the neutral colored tag visible in the Overview, Local, etc. Today, unless I have a neutral relationship manually set to that pilot via personal/corp/alliance standings, they show up with no color tag. They used to show up as neutral by default, but now it appears that pilots you have no relationship with no longer qualify under any colortag.

Jerome D'Winter
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:52:00 - [376]
 

test run it on your alts. if you dont have any, make some, then delete them.

my main is going to take some time as the current options for Dietis means no matter what i do i cannot get my char to look even remotely close to what i had. they all look young and foolish.

however im quite happy that Jerome has turned out like a complete prat.

Thelitos
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:01:00 - [377]
 

Originally by: Aedan Vals
so many angry little kids. and the best part: they mad because there is not enough clothes. in a game about spaceships. make us proud boys Laughing

i like the update however i miss the new contract system and neocom. what happened with those?


hahaha agreed.
I guess they locked the palletes so that you could recognize what race a player is. Because as of now theres no way I know of you can find out besides asking them.
I mean, that's one way to look at it.

Mr Cleann
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:33:00 - [378]
 

Edited by: Mr Cleann on 19/01/2011 03:44:12
Originally by: Gun Gun
I really hate this Barbie-meets-Space-Ken update! Also, one of my planets has malfunctioned


LMAO that was funny. You all hate the character creator that is laughable but understandable. Just wait until your ships lose half of their resistances and your bonuses go by way of the dinosaur and your ammo wont be strong enough to pop a jet can when an incursion develops. This entire patch is going to be viewed as one gigantic epic failure. Unless your are a hard core gamer with an uber connection and state of the art computer you will learn to hate this update. Don't get me wrong I like the concept pretty good. But the sudden ship nerfings system wide is going to p i s s a lot of you off. Especially when you start to lose them and realize you cant get them replaced as easily as you used to. A lot of people are going to lose interest in mining because of the possibility of an incursion suddenly popping up. Missions are going to become pointless because when you are fighting your weapons and ships are going to lose their effectiveness, causing you to either explode or warp out losing your mission rewards while the incursion is in effect. Those of you with lousy connection might not make it out of the system as the gates will be camped and you will be forced to log off for a few hours untl the incursion is over. Only the winning fleet will gain any kind of isk or lp for warding them off or destroying the incursion. Its all in the patch notes. This whole dam N patch is one big uber joke. Welcome to the space age version of wow. The only thing that is missing are the numbers shooting out the tops of the ships.....Evil or Very Mad

Xestu's Mom
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:35:00 - [379]
 

Seriously though, who signed off on seven different colors of aviators...I need my RayBans!

Aviators Yes{} No{} Rolling Eyes

Divenia
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:40:00 - [380]
 

Just saw my Retriever... *washes eyes out with bleach*

Aeos Sol
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:41:00 - [381]
 

Congrats on the server updates.

A lot of player feedback from SiSi was largely ignored though; disappointing.

And W H E R E I S T H E NEOCOM???
I thought it was meant to be part of this update?? Not even beta??

Ah well, maybe next patch.

Romulus Warhammer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:42:00 - [382]
 

Honestly, I havn't even logged in to the new update. Thought I'd read what others think about it before I got down to character creation ! In the last 30 mins of reading the forums, among all the tears and pain there are some posts that make you laugh ! Here are my favs

Originally by: el caido
Whoever skinned the Retriever should be shot.

Originally by: Eeio
Good lord.
If the biggest issue with this patch is something that have no effect on ingame play at all, I will consider this a success.

Originally by: Sovetskii Rosisski
Ok, who the hell moved the dock option, and can we move it back.

Originally by: Runeaway
Went from a tough looking image to a pretty boy out of GQ. When can we edit these images?????



Dryson Bennington
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:44:00 - [383]
 

First off I receive an error message about the Direct X installation that the execution file could not locate it within the files needed to run the game. When I checked the repair log after repairing the instal it said that the install timedout. Could this just be a connectivity issue or hardware issue?

Also is ther going to be an expansion patch dealing with new missions inside of wormholes that would relate to the Amarr and Caldari ancestor's once again regaining control over the True Slaves who have conspired with the Sleeper's to dominate all of New Eden?

Exlegion
Caldari
Salva Veritate
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:46:00 - [384]
 

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

"Group/Ungroup All Weapons" in main overview is PURE WIN.

I know it seems like a little change, but it's pure awesomeness Cool.


Mr Cleann
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:52:00 - [385]
 

Originally by: Divenia
Just saw my Retriever... *washes eyes out with bleach*


LMAO your avatar looks like a kid out of middle school.

HoshinoRuri
Playboy Enterprises
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:57:00 - [386]
 

Despite the lack of obvious options i liked the character creator, now the photo on the other hand i am going to have to petition since it choose the worst god awful one for me. Love the change to PI made it easier for me to do. Figure we will get more clothing options when we get into stations, wished there was more head gear available and the sun glasses were lame all same style just different lens color. Looking forward to trying an incursion when it happens but the patching system is taking me 3+ hrs on two different computers to do and with my mac mini and my mac book pro that is lame.

Smodab Ongalot
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:58:00 - [387]
 

I seem to be able to run AA now in windowed, is that new?

The character creator, while being visually stunning, seems extremely limited.

"Clothing from the following categories must be equipped to your character before continuing: Bottom"

I am very disappointed, CCP, very disappointed..


Jeremy Brown
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:00:00 - [388]
 

6 Years I've been playing this game. I don't care about the avatar thing too much. The portraits look better. But yes there are way too few options for style and dress.

My biggest beef is that all of my shortcut keys that I've used and refined for years are gone. GONE I say, no option, just delete everyone's careful setup and force them to change the keypresses they have gotten used to. WTF.

Oh and to top that off, it appears that I now have to go not only to each account but each toon on each account to reset them. Hours and hours of changing, testing, etc.. Trying to figure out what the purpose of changing CTRL + Q to ALT + SHIFT + Q? Come on.


Jay Wareth
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:02:00 - [389]
 

Saw the golden retriever on SiSi... now it's on TQ. I love you CCP. YARRRR!!

Stoop Paz
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:02:00 - [390]
 

Whenever I Alt-Tab between programs and I am running EVE my desktop becomes very dim. The in-game image brightness stays constant but my desktop and all windows and windowed applications become very dark.

I have an Athlon X2 255 64bit processor-based system and I have an ATI Radeon HD 5400 based vid-card.



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