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sasuk
Gallente
New Eden Construction Holdings
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:00:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: sasuk on 17/01/2011 01:02:17
OMG rant rave oh ! wait its not me, but i do think ccp shoud tell every one about this

changes to cpu requirements with incursion 1.1.0
reported by CCP Zulu | 2011.01.16 23:16:02 | NEW | Comments

TL;DR: CPUs that don't support the SSE2 instruction set will not be able to run EVE Online after the Incursion 1.1.0 deployment on Tuesday, January 18, 2011. This will cause players still using Intel Pentium 3 or older and AMD Athlon XP or older CPUs to not be able to run the EVE Online client.

During the testing of Incursion 1.1.0 we received reports of a seemingly random issue that caused the client to crash on startup. While some of our Singularity testers reported the issue, we weren't able to replicate it. The error log that was generated didn't prove to be helpful,"fake edit"(our logs show nothing working as intended) and due to the extremely few reports we received on it, we couldn't take the investigation further.

In an epiphany moment, a diligent tester figured out that some of the third party binaries we use to run EVE Online had been updated recently. Looking further into the issue, we found that a feature had been turned on that used the SSE2 instruction set and the unexpected fallout was that non-SSE2 capable CPUs became incompatible.

We've looked at hardware trend reports and the general status of the market and this obsolete generation of CPUs in desktop computers and gaming rigs is nearly extinct. We estimate that around 0.3% of the playerbase will be affected. We have, therefore, decided to not let this block the deployment of Incursion 1.1.0. An info message that pops up when you start the client on a non-SSE2 capable machine has been added for clarification. We urge everyone who encounters this specific error to submit a petition to our customer support department. We will have updates on the next steps we take with this issue immediately after the weekend but we wanted to get a blog up ASAP to inform everyone about the issue.

Cheers,

CCP Zulu

oh Linkage see it did happen i have a linky Shocked

Badger Molester
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:04:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: sasuk
i do think ccp shoud tell every one about this


Originally by: sasuk
changes to cpu requirements with incursion 1.1.0
reported by CCP Zulu | 2011.01.16 23:16:02 |

Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:04:00 - [3]
 

I am a self-admitted computer idiot... but I gather that since I have been on SISI numerous time as of late I am fine.



I did however get that annoying bug where I DC'd every time I docked. But everyone I knew was getting it as well and I doubt that this is what it is referring too. I bought this computer when shader4 became the minimum req, it sucks that CCP keeps doing this to people.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:10:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: sasuk
Intel Pentium 3 or older and AMD Athlon XP or older CPUs to not be able to run the EVE Online client.
Oh the horror. Rolling Eyes

Ticarus Hellbrandt
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:12:00 - [5]
 

tl:dr I guess: if you cant find your processor for sale anywhere but ebay then perhaps its time to think about an upgrade.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:19:00 - [6]
 

1980 called... it wants it's microprocessors back.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:24:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Borun Tal
1980 called... it wants it's microprocessors back.
Pff. 68030 > all.

Stu Pendisdick
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:26:00 - [8]
 

Breaking News!

Punchcard fed machines will no longer be able to run the EvE Client!

Film at eleven!


Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:34:00 - [9]
 

Push the Turbo button ya lazy gits.

Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:55:00 - [10]
 

If you paint your processor red, it will go faster.

Also, if you really have a processor that old, then what you should be complaining about is your own lack of means to upgrade, not CCP's unwillingness to support decades old, barely functioning crap. :)

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:58:00 - [11]
 

Oh well, I guess I had to upgrade sometime. I am guessing EVE won't run on my 486DX 4/100 either? It was my gaming rig when we were playing Descent all those years ago. It even had a 200MB hard drive.

*retires old PCs to the recycling bin*

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:59:00 - [12]
 

So apparently my almost 7 year old CPU will still be fine. Good to know, but then again would have been a good excuse to upgrade...

Mr LaForge
Posted - 2011.01.17 02:38:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Mr LaForge on 17/01/2011 02:37:51
My abacus still runs Eve just fine.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.01.17 03:02:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: sasuk
We estimate that around 0.3% of the playerbase will be affected.

So, about 1000 people ? Piece of cake.
Plus, I bet they had a really hard time playing EVE anyway.

KaarBaak
Minmatar
Seatec Astronomy
Posted - 2011.01.17 03:22:00 - [15]
 


Maybe they could fix it so that those processors will be unable to run the new forums as well. Then the folks affected won't be able to create endless whine threads about how ccp is making them buy new hardware every 10 years.

KB

Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.01.17 03:25:00 - [16]
 

That a P3 or Athlon XP would even run EVE is suprising to me

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.17 03:26:00 - [17]
 

Eve was always easy on the hardware needs. As far as those issues go it was the best MMO in the world and I am sure it still will be. PIII is pusing the bounds of reality today. Obviously a P4 will run it.

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.17 03:29:00 - [18]
 

But then considering crashes tonight I doubt eve runs on much more than a bunch of P III's linked.

Trellish
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.01.17 03:30:00 - [19]
 

Uggghhhh!!!!

Thanks sasuk for the Info.


Way to go CCP for failing to even bother to make a serious attempt to notify us that our computers likely won't run eve shortly.

Did a quick search, and it looks like the 32 bit athlon XP 2400 doesn't support SSE2. For those who were wondering, the CPU ran eve just fine. Obviously med/low quality rather than ultra, but I didn't have a slideshow or anything like that... no major lag except for when jumping gates into a couple hundred man fleet... but everybody had that.

Sheesh CCP... one more fail to add to a very long list.


Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:07:00 - [20]
 

Now I wonder if CCP is using any CPUs without SSE2 on their servers... :-P

Aargolos
Minmatar
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:11:00 - [21]
 

For those of us who aren't "that" computer literate, how would one go about figuring out if their computer can run EvE after the Incursion patch?

(I'm fairly ******ed in this department, but my lappy is "only" 3 years old...)

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:12:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: sasuk
Intel Pentium 3 or older and AMD Athlon XP or older CPUs to not be able to run the EVE Online client.
Oh the horror. Rolling Eyes


Isn't that the processor that connected to the motherboard via a slot, not much unlike a PCI slot?

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:15:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Trellish
Uggghhhh!!!!
Did a quick search, and it looks like the 32 bit athlon XP 2400 doesn't support SSE2.



The XP 2400+ is from 2002, it's almost 9 years old.

8.5 year old hardware is getting phased out, the horror!

7w33k5 p5ych0515
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:22:00 - [24]
 

sposing its a good thing i finally replaced my 7 yr old single core athlon last month :P

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:22:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas on 17/01/2011 04:22:32
Originally by: Trellish
Sheesh CCP... one more fail to add to a very long list.


Tell you what, I'll hold onto your stuff while you buy a $20 computer off craigslist to replace the one (you have) now.

Ed: Horrible horrible posting.

Dossie Kielle
Clan Kielle
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:22:00 - [26]
 

So, 0.3% of the population are going to be unable to play EVE until they dig their stumpy little T-rex arms into their pockets and buy something that wasn't made circa 1976.
Really, I've said it before, P3 and Athalon XP CPUs should be in museums, not inside your PC.
@ ancient CPU users: Does ship spinning lag you out on lowest graphics?

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:24:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: sasuk
Edited by: sasuk on 17/01/2011 01:02:17
OMG rant rave oh ! wait its not me, but i do think ccp shoud tell every one about this

changes to cpu requirements with incursion 1.1.0
reported by CCP Zulu | 2011.01.16 23:16:02 | NEW | Comments

TL;DR: CPUs that don't support the SSE2 instruction set will not be able to run EVE Online after the Incursion 1.1.0 deployment on Tuesday, January 18, 2011. This will cause players still using Intel Pentium 3 or older and AMD Athlon XP or older CPUs to not be able to run the EVE Online client.

During the testing of Incursion 1.1.0 we received reports of a seemingly random issue that caused the client to crash on startup. While some of our Singularity testers reported the issue, we weren't able to replicate it. The error log that was generated didn't prove to be helpful,"fake edit"(our logs show nothing working as intended) and due to the extremely few reports we received on it, we couldn't take the investigation further.

In an epiphany moment, a diligent tester figured out that some of the third party binaries we use to run EVE Online had been updated recently. Looking further into the issue, we found that a feature had been turned on that used the SSE2 instruction set and the unexpected fallout was that non-SSE2 capable CPUs became incompatible.

We've looked at hardware trend reports and the general status of the market and this obsolete generation of CPUs in desktop computers and gaming rigs is nearly extinct. We estimate that around 0.3% of the playerbase will be affected. We have, therefore, decided to not let this block the deployment of Incursion 1.1.0. An info message that pops up when you start the client on a non-SSE2 capable machine has been added for clarification. We urge everyone who encounters this specific error to submit a petition to our customer support department. We will have updates on the next steps we take with this issue immediately after the weekend but we wanted to get a blog up ASAP to inform everyone about the issue.

Cheers,

CCP Zulu

oh Linkage see it did happen i have a linky Shocked


when are you going to quit?

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:24:00 - [28]
 

Combat: Incursion 1.1.0 misses your Pentium 820D completely.
Razz

SolinaXex
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:26:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: mechtech
Originally by: Trellish
Uggghhhh!!!!
Did a quick search, and it looks like the 32 bit athlon XP 2400 doesn't support SSE2.



The XP 2400+ is from 2002, it's almost 9 years old.

8.5 year old hardware is getting phased out, the horror!


Hey now, I just threw away my Commodore64 2 years ago!
The old way of having a client for slower systems could be useful.
I think the estimates are kinda low on the older hardware.

Gamers tend to be hardware junkies, hate to throw anything away or disuse anything. We love a challenge in getting things to work.

Heck, CCP kept using Dell for their servers for years! You should know what I am talking about! Thank god they are not anymore.

Iman Jacobi
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:34:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Iman Jacobi on 17/01/2011 04:36:38
Will a Intel Celeron(P) 325 2.53 GHz run it?

Its for a friend and Ive spent about a half hour lookiung I cant even fint the Celeron P lol

You also have to realize not everyone has their mom buy their PCs for them. Some ppl have to work and save to afford them


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