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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2011.01.16 16:32:00 - [31]
 

Eve universe and back story is arse, originaly written on the back of a cigarett packet and severley crippled by being forced to adhere to a (albeit often very fun) severly mechanicaly flawed game

So no

SKUNK

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.01.16 17:03:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Othran
Originally by: De'Veldrin

The Night's Dawn Trilogy (published in six parts) is pretty awesome. Can't say I really liked any of his other stuff.


It might be in 6 parts in the US, but it was published as a trilogy in Europe. Still is.


1e book awesome, 2e & 3e sucked tbh. I am disappoint.

Keita Agnosz
Posted - 2011.01.16 17:35:00 - [33]
 

Not many spaceships in them, but Richard Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs books always seemed Eve-like to me. Not just because they include immortality through mind-transfer, but the feel is similar to some of the Eve chronicles.

Also my vote goes for Banks>Reynolds, though I do like Alastair Reynolds' books.

Ejit
Amarr
STD contractors
Posted - 2011.01.16 18:30:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Ejit on 16/01/2011 18:38:08
Edited by: Ejit on 16/01/2011 18:36:52
Originally by: Tagera
Originally by: Ejit
If your interested in novels with a slight EVE theme. I highly recommend Neal Asher's Polity serious. The technology described in his books is awesome, with a hint of Stargate and features a lot of cool implant\hardwiring tec.

It's also where I suspect the EVE dev team got their name from "Occam's Razor" As two or three of the books feature a Dreadnought of the same name.

I read the whole lot and couldn't put them down. Smile

Neal Asher Wiki page

Amazon, Neal Asher




I've only read the The Skinner I think. But I did enjoy it. Very good book.


You should continue with the trilogy. I've really enjoyed it. Try Prador Moon next. Then I think it goes Gridlinked then The Line of Polity Smile

Trilogy is wrong sorry, it's more like ten or eleven books now..Very Happy

Reyold Bengali
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.16 18:41:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Kesper North
I enjoy both writers, but I'd say that Alastair Reynolds is by far my favorite of the two. He manages to make space feel extremely big and fills it with both wonder and inchoate fear, something that strikes me as imbuing the emotions that actual space explorers would experience on a regular basis. The entire Revelation Space trilogy was a symphony of posthuman creepiness and big-concept hard SF. I'm a little disappointed that Reynolds has been writing with more human themes in mind lately, as he writes aliens and posthumans so believably and so well.

Banks's universe is well-lived-in and well travelled, and while he has a nice millieu set up, it feels a little careless at times, as if the consequences of the world he's created are not quite fully thought out. Though he took a big step towards correcting that with his latest novel Surface Detail, which I feel is one of his stronger works. Excession is still by far my favorite, since it is so playful and fun. Player of Games was also good. I was not a huge fan of Consider Phlebas or Use of Weapons, which are apparently what most people consider his big hits.

I'm also extremely fond of Peter Watts, author of Blindsight. His work is even bleaker than Reynolds at his blackest, and is demonstrably willing to do video game novels, since he is working on Crysis 2. He even worked on Homeworld 2 briefly, showing that he could do justice to accurate portrayal of the Naglfar. ;)


First read Blindsight back in '07 and loved it. Calling his work bleak is a slight understatement. For anyone who's interested, it's available online here: Blindsight

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.16 18:54:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 16/01/2011 18:59:36
Originally by: Khestohr Vaine
Originally by: Malcanis
Edited by: Malcanis on 14/01/2011 21:59:29
Originally by: Khestohr Vaine
Is he any relation to Iain M. Banks?

Just kidding, I knew who you meant. I've only read Consider Phlebas so far, a couple times actually, but I have a bunch of gift cards to use after Christmas and Player of Games is up next.


Do yourself a favour and order Use Of Weapons at the same time, because after you read Player, you're not going to want to wait.


I will do that.

Read it twice too, it's a bit awkward to start so it's worth reading again.

I own all the M Banks novels, all in the new-style covers too. Except for Surface Detail, which is on my Kindle. Embarassed

Edit: For Alastair Reynolds, is Revelation Space a good place to start?

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.01.16 20:14:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 16/01/2011 20:13:57
Originally by: Keita Agnosz
Not many spaceships in them, but Richard Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs books always seemed Eve-like to me. Not just because they include immortality through mind-transfer, but the feel is similar to some of the Eve chronicles.


Can definitely recommend these books ('Altered Carbon', 'Broken Angels' and 'Woken Furies') they all rock. Also his 'Black Man' book.

Le Verrier
Posted - 2011.01.16 20:25:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Edit: For Alastair Reynolds, is Revelation Space a good place to start?

Yes.
There's also a collection book called Galactic North, which has some of Rev.Space characters in it, and ties to the second and third book in the Rev.Space series. It is also a good book to start with.

DontLaseMeBro
Posted - 2011.01.16 20:30:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Edit: For Alastair Reynolds, is Revelation Space a good place to start?


Revelation Space is a great place to start. Chasm City should be the next, but it's not really directly in line story wise, still great book though. Followed by Redemption Ark, then Absolution Gap.

Night Epoch
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.16 20:32:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Night Epoch on 16/01/2011 20:32:34
I love Banks (Consider Phlebas & Player of Games are among my favorites ... if you're looking for something really out there, check out "The Algebraist").

Ashamed to say I've never read a word of Reynolds, but thanks to this thread I've just ordered two of his books off of Amazon just now.

Am I correct in assuming that the proper Reynolds reading order is:

1. Revelation Space
2. Redemption Ark
3. Chasm City
4. Absolution Gap
5. The Prefect

?


Edit: nvm, just saw the post above mine

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.01.16 21:22:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Night Epoch
Edited by: Night Epoch on 16/01/2011 20:32:34
I love Banks (Consider Phlebas & Player of Games are among my favorites ... if you're looking for something really out there, check out "The Algebraist").

Ashamed to say I've never read a word of Reynolds, but thanks to this thread I've just ordered two of his books off of Amazon just now.

Am I correct in assuming that the proper Reynolds reading order is:

1. Revelation Space
2. Redemption Ark
3. Chasm City
4. Absolution Gap
5. The Prefect

?


Edit: nvm, just saw the post above mine


In terms of chronology, The Prefect should precede all of the others, and then be followed by Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days.

Then: Revelation Space, Chasm City, Redemption Ark, Absolution Gap

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.01.16 21:52:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: DontLaseMeBro
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Edit: For Alastair Reynolds, is Revelation Space a good place to start?


Revelation Space is a great place to start. Chasm City should be the next, but it's not really directly in line story wise, still great book though. Followed by Redemption Ark, then Absolution Gap.
Thank you for that, I've been meaning to start this series for ages, but the softcovers never actually give any description on them of what order to go in; inevitably I end up picking up something else and forget about it until next time I want a book.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.01.18 04:38:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Othran
Originally by: De'Veldrin

The Night's Dawn Trilogy (published in six parts) is pretty awesome. Can't say I really liked any of his other stuff.


It might be in 6 parts in the US, but it was published as a trilogy in Europe. Still is.


I think they finally talked the publisher into doing three trade paperbacks instead of 6 standard sized paperbacks, but I still have the original six volume paperback set that I bought way back when.

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:47:00 - [44]
 

The player of games has to be one of my favorite books, I have read it many times..... My copy is getting a little 'traveled' now, however it is signed by Iain, so still has pride of place on my bookshelf.


Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:56:00 - [45]
 

I also love Banks, i sometimes name my ships after the ships in the novels cause they are awesome.


Lord Wamphyri
Amarr
Starside Lost
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:57:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Headerman
Anyone read Peter F Hamiltons work? I have nearly everyone of his books, they are all fantastic!


I have, the first book of his I read was Pandora's Star, swiftly followed by Judas Unchained. Then demolished the Void trilogy in short order!

Another author I can recommend is Kevin J. Anderson, specifically the Saga of the Seven Suns books; while not really Eve-like, an engrossing read nonetheless.

Incidentally, what is it with these scifi authors and their Middle initials? Maybe it's an homage to Arthur C. Clark? Very Happy

Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:00:00 - [47]
 

Taste is a strange thing.

I read Consider Phlebas some years ago, and the whole event was blanked from my mind and "Never read anything by Iain M. Banks ever" has been left imprinted where the memories for Consider Phlebas should be sitting.

I just look up a sypnosis of it on wiki, and sure enough, it's gone, I had no idea what it was about before I read the wiki so amazing has been my prowess at compartmentalising it away where it cannot harm me again.

But having read the wiki, it sounds like the sort of thing I want to read... but I have to trust my mind, I will regret reading it I am sure. I wonder what it was that did me in...

Plague Black
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:06:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Plague Black on 18/01/2011 14:07:04
Edited by: Plague Black on 18/01/2011 14:06:15
Finaly a thread worth reading here.

The Culture series rocks, I'm just reading Surface Detail now, read all before that. But it has almost no similarities with EVE. Close to 0 I'm afraid. EVE is universe composed of human descendants that rely on capitalism where Culture universe is communist super-intelligent robo brains who mingle in affairs of different primitive alien races as they have reached end game of life (to use simple terms).

Works of Peter F. Hamilton remind me much more of EVE, Commonwealth universe, with all the rich immortal power-people that can clone themselves as desired once they die in fire while sacrificing billions to their economy goals (much more like EVE). I firmly think that CCP pinched a lot from PFH, although cloning idea is not orginaly his.

But they are both great, so any EVE story coming from their pen would rock. What I do not want to see is EVE story comming from Terry Pratchett's pen since his writing reminds me of how CCP is doing their business (I'll leave to reader to make his own conclusion here).

Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:17:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Taste is a strange thing.

I read Consider Phlebas some years ago, and the whole event was blanked from my mind and "Never read anything by Iain M. Banks ever" has been left imprinted where the memories for Consider Phlebas should be sitting.


I read The Wasp Factory years ago and had the same reaction as you. On the advice of a friend I recently read Consider Phlebas and I found it stilted, predictable and the story had no consequence within the context in which it was set.

On the advice of my corp I persevered and read Player Of Games and I have to admit that's the best book I've read in a very long time. The next book State of the Art was utter guff but I'm looking forward to Excession as that comes highly recommended.

Xyla Vulchanus
Amarr
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:23:00 - [50]
 

I'm reading Consider Phlebas atm and after about 150 pages I am finding it a real grind - boring actually, and not particularly well structured or written. Shame, because I don't usually read SF and was looking forward to it.

Lathlrilanq
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:27:00 - [51]
 

I always smile when I see a ship on scan named after one of his ships, do it myself too!

I must say, Surface Detail was good, Matter was alright, but Player and Excession blow the rest of them outta the water! Inversions makes no sense unless you've read the others and know a little about SC.

Regarding Consider Phlebas, its not one of his best, read Excession for a true idea of what he can pull off!


(my old corp was called Quietly Confident and I fly a pilgrim called Tactical Grace, yes I am a little bit of a fan :D )


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