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Crazy Renegade
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:24:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Crazy Renegade on 14/01/2011 18:33:41
I currently am using a mouse that is wireless and misbehaving. It likes to double click on its own and before I have the opportunity to read any of the menu selections. Causing me to have lost a couple ships. At first I thought the settings got toyed with but later I found that to not be the case. In a MMO what would be the best type of mouse cordless or corded. Without killing whats left of my wallet. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks in advanced

Estel Arador
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:26:00 - [2]
 

Cordless is a recipe for disaster in any game.

CCP StevieSG

Posted - 2011.01.14 16:28:00 - [3]
 

Moved to Out of Pod from EVE General.

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:32:00 - [4]
 

Logitech Wireless?
Mine is doing that when the batteries run low (red led on top doesn't start to indicate low power though).
Also, the contacts in the battery compartment do get coated with some residue in my climate, so I had scratched them with something before replacing the batteries (back of skewer stick for example).
Nowadays I have some silicone paste (no sealant, silicone lubricant paste) on them avoiding corrosion/building up of residue and it's working superb.
Hope that helps.

Crazy Renegade
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:41:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Tres Farmer
Logitech Wireless?
Mine is doing that when the batteries run low (red led on top doesn't start to indicate low power though).
Also, the contacts in the battery compartment do get coated with some residue in my climate, so I had scratched them with something before replacing the batteries (back of skewer stick for example).
Nowadays I have some silicone paste (no sealant, silicone lubricant paste) on them avoiding corrosion/building up of residue and it's working superb.
Hope that helps.


I thought it might be battery related and replaced the batteries as well as inspected the terminals. Those were ok.

Crazy Renegade
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:43:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Crazy Renegade on 14/01/2011 16:44:46
Originally by: Estel Arador
Cordless is a recipe for disaster in any game.


Please elaborate on that. I been playing mmo's for a while but never gave much thought to the technical aspect of it.

Annasophia Smith
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:46:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Annasophia Smith on 14/01/2011 17:32:50
What are the pros and cons with a cord mouse vice a cordless

Keta Fraal
Nul and Booleans
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:01:00 - [8]
 

My first mouse that started doing the double-click-when-I-single-click-trick was a corded mouse and happened about two months ago. I was spending a lot of time with PI and I suspected all the clicking had taken its toll on the thing. I switched mouses with my wife and to this day she doesn't know why surfing the net is so annoying.

A couple of weeks ago, this newer mouse that my wife kindly gave me is starting to do the same thing, though not as consistently and as often as the first mouse.

I'm no Captain Kangaroo, but I am very suspicious of this uberklik-PI hell. I posted earlier on the subject and no-one seemed to corroborate my claim that PI speed-clicking could be at fault. So after the PI overhaul, I'm going to the nearest gas station to steal their mouse (cause I don't want to buy a new one).

BTW: Logitech cordless mouse for sale

Crazy Renegade
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:15:00 - [9]
 

That damn double click problem has done everything from cost me ships to sending me to roid belts and planets and jump gates. not to mention stations. Not to mention caused me to click about 20x before i got the menu to finally stay up so i can chose vice the mouse where i want to go.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:15:00 - [10]
 

I have a Saitek GM3200 corded gaming mouse and totally recommend it. It has weight adjustment metal blocks. So you can get the right feeling of inertia for you. It has a pointer speed selector and programmable buttons.

Also I have found having a gaming mouse with a speed selector is handy for photoshop like work.

Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:28:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Captain Die on 14/01/2011 18:34:32
Logitech Wireless mouse checking in.

Had it for well over a year now with no problems. Barely even have to change the batteries with the auto-off feature.

Mr Cleann
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:29:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Mr Cleann on 14/01/2011 18:31:57
I am currently looking at the Logitech MX 518. Is that a decent gaming mouse? It would be nice to get an opinion or recommendation from CCP as this mouse would be used primarily to play EVE

ls pos
Amarr
Legacy of Sorrow
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:44:00 - [13]
 

The MX518 is still the most voted for in our 3-monthly best buy guide here on a techsite in the netherlands. I still run with my MX510 after 5 years of heavy duty. If i ever have to get me a new one, it'll probably be the 518 as the 510 went EOL years ago.

Crazy Renegade
Posted - 2011.01.14 19:16:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: ls pos
The MX518 is still the most voted for in our 3-monthly best buy guide here on a techsite in the netherlands. I still run with my MX510 after 5 years of heavy duty. If i ever have to get me a new one, it'll probably be the 518 as the 510 went EOL years ago.



Cool, I am also looking at that one. I liked the feed back on it that was on Logitech's website but sometimes I think that the feed back on those sites are some kind of marketing ploy.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.01.14 19:23:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Annasophia Smith
Edited by: Annasophia Smith on 14/01/2011 17:32:50
What are the pros and cons with a cord mouse vice a cordless


Cordless:
-Pros:
--Convenient
--No messy wires to deal with
--Longer range

-Cons:
--Unreliable
--Limited battery life
--More expensive (but not by much)
--Sometimes special drivers are needed to use them properly

Corded:
-Pros:
--It just plain works
--Reliable
--Standardized
--No battery life to worry about
--Cheap

-Cons:
--Wires can be a mess to deal with
--Range is limited by cord length
--Not as "sexy" as a wireless mouse

DK Reborn
Posted - 2011.01.14 19:27:00 - [16]
 

I also own a logitech wireless mouse and have had the same problem. Most notably my course is changed quite often when flying through space, which is extremely annoying. But this also happens in other games besides eve. In some of the FPS games I play I'll shoot once and my gun just keeps blazing through ammo it kind of sucks. However, I have no idea what causes this problem or how to fix it.

Crazy Renegade
Posted - 2011.01.14 19:43:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: DK Reborn
I also own a logitech wireless mouse and have had the same problem. Most notably my course is changed quite often when flying through space, which is extremely annoying. But this also happens in other games besides eve. In some of the FPS games I play I'll shoot once and my gun just keeps blazing through ammo it kind of sucks. However, I have no idea what causes this problem or how to fix it.


Im of the opinion that the sensor in the buttons wears out and begins to malfunction. Thats the only thing I can think of as to the cause. Which is why I am looking at a new mouse. The one I have now cot me about 300M in ships cause of that annoyance. With you mentioning the problem isn't limited to EvE is reinforcing the possibility of a worn out mouse.

I know about the proc and cons of mice on a cosmetic level. But what are the pros and cons of a cordles mouse and a corded one for game play with mmo's Is there any real difference like say lag issues of sorts.

ls pos
Amarr
Legacy of Sorrow
Posted - 2011.01.14 19:49:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: ls pos on 14/01/2011 19:53:07
Edited by: ls pos on 14/01/2011 19:52:28
Originally by: Crazy Renegade

Cool, I am also looking at that one. I liked the feed back on it that was on Logitech's website but sometimes I think that the feed back on those sites are some kind of marketing ploy.


I would never trust a manufacturers website that also has feedback from "users"..

I have been digging in the guides i mentioned before, and the mouse been in there from at least halfway 2006. So yeah, its a very popular mouse.

But as with most things, and mouses in particular, it totally depends on taste and what you're used to. Some like them a bit heavier, some a bit smaller, with more buttons, etc.


But this topic is about dependability. Electronics break all the time. As stated before, i still use mine after 5 years. Got my parents and my sis the MX518 in 2006 which they still use daily too. Hmm, now i think of it, everyone with this type of mouse that i helped getting, or see them use in the past, they still use it today..

Cord or no cord? I go for cord. For reasons allready stated by others. Crap battery stuff, or getting it charged..

For latency issues on a cordless one. No, most MMO's arent really that past paced games like fps's or RTS. Cordless ones will do just as nicely.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:02:00 - [19]
 

Have had a logitec cordless mouse for years and it still works great with no random double clicks or stuck clicks. Battery life sucks(lasts about a week off a fresh set) but I got around that with a set of quality rechargables.

Crazy Renegade
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:03:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: ls pos
Edited by: ls pos on 14/01/2011 19:53:07
Edited by: ls pos on 14/01/2011 19:52:28
Originally by: Crazy Renegade

Cool, I am also looking at that one. I liked the feed back on it that was on Logitech's website but sometimes I think that the feed back on those sites are some kind of marketing ploy.


I would never trust a manufacturers website that also has feedback from "users"..

I have been digging in the guides i mentioned before, and the mouse been in there from at least halfway 2006. So yeah, its a very popular mouse.


But as with most things, and mouses in particular, it totally depends on taste and what you're used to. Some like them a bit heavier, some a bit smaller, with more buttons, etc.


But this topic is about dependability. Electronics break all the time. As stated before, i still use mine after 5 years. Got my parents and my sis the MX518 in 2006 which they still use daily too. Hmm, now i think of it, everyone with this type of mouse that i helped getting, or see them use in the past, they still use it today..

Cord or no cord? I go for cord. For reasons allready stated by others. Crap battery stuff, or getting it charged..

For latency issues on a cordless one. No, most MMO's arent really that past paced games like fps's or RTS. Cordless ones will do just as nicely.



Thanks all for your input. I think I will go for the MX 518 it sounds like a decent product. I have to admit I am tired of replacing batteries.

Sinister Dextor
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:04:00 - [21]
 

Logitech mice are fine, but dont use the logitech software.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:07:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Sinister Dextor
Logitech mice are fine, but dont use the logitech software.
Good point, forgot about that bit. Don't install the software as windows will detect it and load it's own logitec driver.

ls pos
Amarr
Legacy of Sorrow
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:08:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Sinister Dextor
Logitech mice are fine, but dont use the logitech software.
Good point, forgot about that bit. Don't install the software as windows will detect it and load it's own logitec driver.


Yeah wanted to add that bit too :)

Dont use the setpoint software, its bloated..

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:09:00 - [24]
 

When I was running Windows XP Battlefield 2142 did not work If I had the latest Logitech drivers for my Logitech webcam. One of the weirdest problems I have come across.

Zoloft Rx
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:10:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Crazy Renegade
Edited by: Crazy Renegade on 14/01/2011 18:33:41
I currently am using a mouse that is wireless and misbehaving. It likes to double click on its own and before I have the opportunity to read any of the menu selections.


The same happened to my logitech G7 over a year ago. I'm now using my optical wired logitech economy mouse. works as intended. No special buttons. But, it was only a few bucks.

Karma
Vortex Incorporated
Posted - 2011.01.14 20:36:00 - [26]
 

the first cordless mouse I ever tried stopped working when I accidently placed a cup of tea between the mouse and it's receiver-thingy.
and no, the cup wasn't made from lead.

right now I have a cordfull mouse for my gaming machine, and a very small cordless mouse for my netbook (a Rapoo M6126GN, the mouse.. not the netbook).

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.01.14 21:26:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 14/01/2011 21:27:42
Originally by: Crazy Renegade
I currently am using a mouse that is wireless and misbehaving. It likes to double click on its own and before I have the opportunity to read any of the menu selections.

It happens to corded mice too. It's not the signal, it's the click contact. While you think you single-click, there is actually some bounce-back and you really, PHYSICALLY double-click without wanting to.

The only reasonable solutions are to either change the mouse (easiest, but not cheapest), or, if at all possible, to replace the clicky contact (you need a bit of handywork skill for that, but it should be rather cheap and have a high success rate).
The unreasonable solutions (at best temporary solutions at that) are to either click much harder (works more often) or much softer (works less often), to avoid the bounce-back-and-reconnect.

CCP Adida


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.14 21:49:00 - [28]
 

I used to use cordless mouses all the time until they stopped working after 1-2 years on me. I would always have to purchase a new one. Currently I'm using a Razer that I got in a grab bag and it works great. I recommend a corded mouse unless you have animals that like to chew on wires Very Happy

Derik Wildstar
Posted - 2011.01.15 02:55:00 - [29]
 

My preferred mouse is the Logitech MX620 Laser Cordless, never had a hiccup out of it actually have 3 of them, 2 are on the same desk and never interfere with one another.

Pros-
Logitech- never met another mouse company I liked
Cordless- no wires duh, plus has tiny usb receiver which is nice compared to old massive dongle contraptions
Laser- I didn't think it was possible to improve on optical over ball I was wrong and now detest using standard opticals at work
Battery life- set of AA lasts well over a year even with heavy gaming, can tell when its time to change red light is just a reminder
Responsive- never felt there was any lag compared to a wired mouse
Comfortable- like the way it fits my hand without fatigue have used other mice that had slightly too small or too large of a grip that were tiring to use

Cons-
None maybe price but want to say I bought my first one about four years ago and it still works like a champ, have since purchased two more for other comps actually use one on my laptop little bulky to pack around but I hate those little travel sized mice

Harrigan VonStudly
Original Sin.
Underworld Excavators
Posted - 2011.01.15 02:59:00 - [30]
 

After having a wireless act up on me in the middle of pvp several times I got a corded Logitech G5 and haven't ever had an issue. It's an awesome mouse. weights included to customize it for you. Gaming grade laser with 5 preset dpi settings that you choose so at the push of a button you can select what sensitivity that works for your application.


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