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MinerofEve
Posted - 2011.01.13 18:08:00 - [1]
 

I have done extensive research into the disparity between mining and missioning and it is just not fair. Miners are not being rewarded for their effort properly because of mission runners ease of acquiring items to melt down into minerals. This needs to be fixed immediately!

Afer painstaking research I have found the fairest way to balance these professions and provide a fun, appropriate gameplay for both:

1) remove all loot drops in missions and replace with tags
2) move all L4 missions to lowsec to balance risk/reward

Thank you for your support lets get CCP to listen on this!

MinmatarCitizen 8927374455
Posted - 2011.01.13 18:19:00 - [2]
 

0/10

Next time at least attempt to be entertaining
kthxbye

MinerofEve
Posted - 2011.01.13 18:37:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Yob tvay'matar
0/10

Next time at least attempt to be entertaining
kthxbye


no idea what this is but you obviously miss the point of the inbalance and unfairness with missions in eve.

Slevnin
Posted - 2011.01.13 19:17:00 - [4]
 

Shocked gee let me think um no...

It isn't the mission runners killing you value of the minerals, it's a combination of isk farmers + I mined it it is all free minerals to me crowd.

Gee which should have more reward Rolling Eyes

Mining -> warp to belt -> target roid -> mine roid repeat
should you get LP for each roid you deplete quit comparing missioning to mining they are not made equal. You picked your profession if your not happy start training for missions.






MinerofEve
Posted - 2011.01.13 19:24:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Slevnin
Shocked gee let me think um no...

It isn't the mission runners killing you value of the minerals, it's a combination of isk farmers + I mined it it is all free minerals to me crowd.

Gee which should have more reward Rolling Eyes

Mining -> warp to belt -> target roid -> mine roid repeat
should you get LP for each roid you deplete quit comparing missioning to mining they are not made equal. You picked your profession if your not happy start training for missions.








no this is unfair and must be made right to all players. there is no need for LP for mining that is ridiculous. it is also ridiculous that mission runners get minerals and impact my profits.

who said minerals are free from mining? oh and yes i think all chinese player should be banned no matter what country they are playing from because botting and selling isk is all they do and it is very bad for game!


Slevnin
Posted - 2011.01.13 19:36:00 - [6]
 

If you want to make more profit than a level 4 mission your going to have head to 0.0 or similar and mine the high end ore's Risk vs reward is what I keep hearing. use eve search and read all the previous threads on this some mission loot has already been revamped stopping beating the dead horse already

Goose99
Posted - 2011.01.13 19:48:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Goose99 on 13/01/2011 19:49:10
Edited by: Goose99 on 13/01/2011 19:48:54
Yes to macro miner profit enhancement.Very Happy

Well, maybe not, since most missioners don't loot. But scapegoating them at least draws attention away from my macros, so it's all good.Cool

Non macro activities, such as combat missions, must be nerfed. Macros must be buffed.

Jaina Sunspot
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.13 20:15:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Jaina Sunspot on 13/01/2011 20:21:03
Yeah it is bounties and LP wher the money is made with a preference towards bounties as well as LP Rewards are varied enough that the market isn't flooded enough to bring down supply.

Mining is all about Supply Vs Demand and when the Hulk is the second most flown ship well Supply is not suffering. Demand on the other hand...

Calfis
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2011.01.13 20:27:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: MinerofEve

2) move all L4 missions to lowsec to make more carebear tears




I approve of this message and or service YARRRR!!

Master Hamster
Testing on Humans
Guinea Pigs
Posted - 2011.01.13 20:57:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: MinerofEve
I have done extensive research into the disparity between mining and missioning and it is just not fair. Miners are not being rewarded for their effort properly because of mission runners ease of acquiring items to melt down into minerals. This needs to be fixed immediately!



Are you angry?

Archbeholder
Posted - 2011.01.13 21:21:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Master Hamster

Are you angry?

The correct way to say it is: "LOL U MAD?"
Rolling Eyes

Master Hamster
Testing on Humans
Guinea Pigs
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:38:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Archbeholder
Originally by: Master Hamster

Are you angry?

The correct way to say it is: "LOL U MAD?"
Rolling Eyes


I know but things are going to change around here, human!

JTDaBeast
Posted - 2011.01.13 23:37:00 - [13]
 

YOU GOTTA BE SH*TIN' ME.

Remove all loot drops. Wow troll successful. You mine veldspar all day don't you! "This needs to be fixed immediately!" <-- lmao. let me guess, you want to be able to mine Mercoxit in a 1.0 system.

You want a fix, here you go. Train something to fly besides an industrial or barge, put a gun on it (or launcher), and go do missions. Then fly something (preferrably a Noctis) that salvages and go salvage. Between those two things, you should come out on top.

oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
Posted - 2011.01.14 00:06:00 - [14]
 

Hi Lana, slow day at the office?

Veronica Kerrigan
Minmatar
Hand Of Midas
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
Posted - 2011.01.14 06:28:00 - [15]
 

I believe there are a few problems with your logic, as well as that of many other people. Mining does not produce ISK. WHen you mine, and sell the minerals ISK is changing hands, but is not being produced. Without missions, and bounties, the total amount of money would decrease at a very rapid rate.

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2011.01.14 10:40:00 - [16]
 

Let's make minerals more valuable by removing the income of 80% of the Eve playerbase. I think this could work, guys.

Pod Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.14 12:28:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: MinerofEve
Originally by: Slevnin
Shocked gee let me think um no...

It isn't the mission runners killing you value of the minerals, it's a combination of isk farmers + I mined it it is all free minerals to me crowd.

Gee which should have more reward Rolling Eyes

Mining -> warp to belt -> target roid -> mine roid repeat
should you get LP for each roid you deplete quit comparing missioning to mining they are not made equal. You picked your profession if your not happy start training for missions.








no this is unfair and must be made right to all players. there is no need for LP for mining that is ridiculous. it is also ridiculous that mission runners get minerals and impact my profits.

who said minerals are free from mining? oh and yes i think all chinese player should be banned no matter what country they are playing from because botting and selling isk is all they do and it is very bad for game!




One thing I admit.
Makes no sense from CCP
1 First they nerf the loot drops to give not so many minerals and sdicourage looting people start to blitz more [not all of them of course but quite a few]

2 They introduce the Noctis whic makes salvaging and looting crazy efficient that counteracts the very same thing they were trying to achieve
Shocked

But yeah you trained for afk proffesion there is your afk income.

You can do PI trains up some remote trade skills and you can play the market while mining at the same time.

Also whine bit more bots it is getting relly bad out there.
There are sites that are offering a full botting packages for Eve including mining hauling, ratting and market bots with multi account support and settings that can be adjusted on per character bases.
And CCP does nothing


Nicky's Tomb
Posted - 2011.01.14 13:39:00 - [18]
 

I want life changed. I feel it is unfair that I earn xx,xxx as an engineer when a doctor earns xxx,xxx! It's just NOT fair. I want to cry.

Nicky's Tomb
Posted - 2011.01.14 13:41:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Pod Amarr

And CCP does nothing



Well the logs show nothing!

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.01.14 14:28:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: MinerofEve
I have done extensive research into the disparity between mining and missioning and it is just not fair. Miners are not being rewarded for their effort properly because of mission runners ease of acquiring items to melt down into minerals. This needs to be fixed immediately!

Afer painstaking research I have found the fairest way to balance these professions and provide a fun, appropriate gameplay for both:

1) remove all loot drops in missions and replace with tags
2) move all L4 missions to lowsec to balance risk/reward

Thank you for your support lets get CCP to listen on this!


If you want to make mining lucrative, then you need to do some combination of the following 3 things:

(1) Make ore much scarcer. It is currently available in more or less unlimited quantity, even the so-called "rare" high-ends.

(2) Make the process of mining itself considerably more difficult so that it requires actual player skill to optimise the flow of ore into your cargo hold

(3) Make mining dangerous.

Mavnas
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:28:00 - [21]
 

I've thought of a better way to increase the price of minerals. Hold a Hulkageddon every other week! YARRRR!!

K'uata Sayus
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:39:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: MinerofEve
I have done extensive research into the disparity between mining and missioning and it is just not fair. Miners are not being rewarded for their effort properly because of mission runners ease of acquiring items to melt down into minerals. This needs to be fixed immediately!

Afer painstaking research I have found the fairest way to balance these professions and provide a fun, appropriate gameplay for both:

1) remove all loot drops in missions and replace with tags
2) move all L4 missions to lowsec to balance risk/reward

Thank you for your support lets get CCP to listen on this!


While you may have done extensive research into the disparity between mining and missioning, you have not done extensive research into the forum threads that have discussed these subjects ad infinitum ad nauseum.


MinerofEve
Posted - 2011.01.14 17:04:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Wet Ferret
Let's make minerals more valuable by removing the income of 80% of the Eve playerbase. I think this could work, guys.


Lets face fact that mission running is a profession built around violence. Is that the type of enlightened universe you wish to live in? Mining is a peaceful profession that allows communities to build and enriches the lives of many. Lets keep violence to lawless space and improve the profit and benefits of mining and peace to improve EVE and the community good.


Slevnin
Posted - 2011.01.14 17:17:00 - [24]
 

That's the spirit lets all jump in our combat designed ships and fire rainbows and lolly pops at each other and have a gay ol time and make this community good.



P.S. Always remember it is toke toke pass Arrow

Goose99
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:51:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Slevnin
That's the spirit lets all jump in our combat designed ships and fire rainbows and lolly pops at each other and have a gay ol time and make this community good.



P.S. Always remember it is toke toke pass Arrow


I approve this message.ugh


 

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