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Davanev Hraldrsson
Posted - 2011.01.13 14:31:00 - [1]
 

I don't know about other players but the look of a ship really matters to me. I can fly an ugly ship - for example I have no problems with the Osprey, but not one I find "silly" looking - Moa. Hard to define but I know it when I see it.

There have been plenty to threads about ugly or pretty shipsbut how about features or small aspects that make an attractive ship less desirable. Very subjective but I can think of a couple that put me off otherwise good or great ships:

Rifter - turret placement on cabin roof makes it look like a cartoon

Drake - Control tower on top should be at the back not the front and the bit sticking out of the tower looks like a nose.

Stabber/Tempest - Just too thin in places, will snap if I make a hard turn

So, what minor points if any, about the ship models bother others?

Pod Salesman
Posted - 2011.01.13 14:41:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Pod Salesman on 13/01/2011 14:42:37
The Ferox looks too damn cool for it's own good, since it is nerfed compared to what it should be. I just can't stop flying them, but always need at least one low taken up by reactor control unit II. Needs more power grid so that isn't necessary!

Ticarus Hellbrandt
Posted - 2011.01.13 14:50:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Drake - Control tower on top should be at the back not the front and the bit sticking out of the tower looks like a nose.

buy a megathron

Stabber/Tempest - Just too thin in places, will snap if I make a hard turn

cant snap in space



Aerilis
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.01.13 14:57:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Pod Salesman
Edited by: Pod Salesman on 13/01/2011 14:42:37
The Ferox looks too damn cool for it's own good, since it is nerfed compared to what it should be. I just can't stop flying them, but always need at least one low taken up by reactor control unit II. Needs more power grid so that isn't necessary!

Ferox looks flippin' sexy.

But yeah OP I get you. There's a difference between ships that are ugly because of practicality--and ships that are ugly for reasons that make no sense. And the Drake is way too thin.

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.01.13 15:38:00 - [5]
 

Broadsword - What the hell is that texture all about? Junkyard? Laughing

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.13 15:46:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Broadsword - What the hell is that texture all about? Junkyard? Laughing
Uhm… It's Minmatar. So yeah.

Dasubervixen
Posted - 2011.01.13 15:58:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson
So, what minor points if any, about the ship models bother others?

None. I'm Amarrian, all my ships look good. Smile

Archbeholder
Posted - 2011.01.13 16:03:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Dasubervixen

None. I'm Amarrian, all my ships look good. Smile

And that is the main reason amarr ships should be nerfed!!!
Having beautiful ships is PREPOSTEROUS!

Karyon Khen
Posted - 2011.01.13 16:03:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Dasubervixen
Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson
So, what minor points if any, about the ship models bother others?

None. I'm Amarrian, all my ships look good. Smile


All of them? Have you seen the Sentinel?

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Posted - 2011.01.13 16:04:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Broadsword - What the hell is that texture all about? Junkyard? Laughing


That having been said about the Broadsword design, a rusty blacksmith's anvil bristling with machine guns and careening through space ... the Rupture is metal as ****. :black101:

Dasubervixen
Posted - 2011.01.13 16:22:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Karyon Khen
Originally by: Dasubervixen
All of them? Have you seen the Sentinel?


Yes, I own one. All the EWAR frigates look a bit odd. I guess they need to, to do their job properly. But of the EWAR frigates. Crucifier/Sentinel still look the best. Smile

Syreniac
Posted - 2011.01.13 16:38:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Syreniac on 13/01/2011 16:39:53
Edited by: Syreniac on 13/01/2011 16:38:51
Originally by: Dasubervixen
Originally by: Karyon Khen
All of them? Have you seen the Sentinel?


Yes, I own one. All the EWAR frigates look a bit odd. I guess they need to, to do their job properly. But of the EWAR frigates. Crucifier/Sentinel still look the best. Smile


Maulus.

I rest my case.

EDIT: And the Vigil, thinking about it...

BiggestT
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2011.01.13 16:40:00 - [13]
 

The raven would look so much cooler and much more badass if the silly little flimsy looking ****pit was removed (and everything else kept as is)

The engines on the chimera look funny, it doesn't really match the awesome looking front of the ship.

The drake looks too thin, give it more fatness!

The caldari cruisers look all wrong, osprey has the same issue as raven, caracal needs moar meat, blackbird looks like a bunch of lego blocks are attached to it, and the moa...let's not even get started there.

I think all the titans look a bit weird too, they're not like a gigantic ship of doom should look imo..


Uzii Jay
Posted - 2011.01.13 16:44:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Dasubervixen
Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson
So, what minor points if any, about the ship models bother others?

None. I'm Amarrian, all my ships look good. Smile
Amen to that. Some of the Legion combinations are orgasmic. And it just so happens that my setup falls into that combination :D

To the OP, the Caracal looks far to thin in most places, and those two 'wings', they make it look like it has legs. In fact the whole thing looks like some backwards two-legged dinosaur, the cockpit/bridge as the tail, and the engines as some weird flat head. Vile ship.

Mey Alman
Jonferson Space Dynamics Division
Posted - 2011.01.13 17:04:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Ticarus Hellbrandt
Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Stabber/Tempest - Just too thin in places, will snap if I make a hard turn

cant snap in space





Nothing in space is preventing g forces from occurring. So how do you come to post something like that?

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.01.13 17:09:00 - [16]
 

I always get flashbacks to the days of using typewriters when I see an Apoc warp in.

Vabjekf
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.13 17:20:00 - [17]
 

The little head sticking out of the raven
The little head sticking out of the rupture
Harbingers asymmetric turret
Caracal looking like a walking space twig
Extra visible hardpoints on ships that do not have that many hard points (such as the paladin)

Forum Guy
Posted - 2011.01.13 17:31:00 - [18]
 

I get the feeling more effort has gone into designing the pirate ships (player) than the mainstream ones.

yani dumyat
Minmatar
Pixie Cats
Posted - 2011.01.13 20:13:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Drake - Control tower on top should be at the back not the front and the bit sticking out of the tower looks like a nose.



That's not a control tower, it's to make them clip together in a nice stack when you have 10 of them in the hanger.

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.13 21:39:00 - [20]
 

Most Ugly: Moa, most Minmi frigates, Bellicose, Loki (I'm really a bit ashamed I fly one), Tempest, Crucifier, Executor, Maller, Vexor, Brutix, Dominix.

Doctor Steinsbrow
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.13 21:48:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Rifter - turret placement on cabin roof makes it look like a cartoon


rifter is badass and will always be a badass looking ship
Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Drake - Control tower on top should be at the back not the front and the bit sticking out of the tower looks like a nose.


you are overlooking the fact that it a drake and thus immune to your wierd point of view
Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Stabber/Tempest - Just too thin in places, will snap if I make a hard turn


the lack of air in space makes Snapping of pieces of ships impossible on "hard turns" though if you replaced that word with "weapons fire" it might make sense.

Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:07:00 - [22]
 

Seriously, before CCP does ANYTHING else, they NEED to fix the way some ships look.

FUKK! Moa, Bellicose, Rupture, Caracal even holy crap there are a lot of ugly ships. FUKKING FIX IT ALL READY ITS REDICULOUS LOL

Not to mention howbout some missile launchers on my breacher?

Seriously.

roastduck
Gallente
MerTeK
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:10:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Stabber/Tempest - Just too thin in places, will snap if I make a hard turn


the lack of air in space makes Snapping of pieces of ships impossible on "hard turns" though if you replaced that word with "weapons fire" it might make sense.


There is no air resistance, but there is still inertia. Those pieces will want to resist the direction change, and the stresses could make them snap.

Tradew1nd
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:36:00 - [24]
 

to the people that say things cannot snap in space:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bending_moment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia


kthxbai

Jaina Sunspot
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:37:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Doctor Steinsbrow

you are overlooking the fact that it a drake and thus immune to your wierd point of view


It has 2 Invuln II's so it is double invulnerable to a factor of two.

Doctor Steinsbrow
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:39:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: roastduck
Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Stabber/Tempest - Just too thin in places, will snap if I make a hard turn


the lack of air in space makes Snapping of pieces of ships impossible on "hard turns" though if you replaced that word with "weapons fire" it might make sense.


There is no air resistance, but there is still inertia. Those pieces will want to resist the direction change, and the stresses could make them snap.


i'm honestly interested in finding out how the ISS stays in one piece then

yani dumyat
Minmatar
Pixie Cats
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:43:00 - [27]
 

What's with all the hate for the caracal? It should be stick thin, once your shields are gone it snaps like a twig so some big beefy model would be stupid.

Caracal rocks, leave it alone.

Doctor Steinsbrow
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:48:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: yani dumyat
What's with all the hate for the caracal? It should be stick thin, once your shields are gone it snaps like a twig so some big beefy model would be stupid.

Caracal rocks, leave it alone.

Caracal had a bad tank period really, but yea, ship looks great.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.13 22:48:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Doctor Steinsbrow
i'm honestly interested in finding out how the ISS stays in one piece then
By not rotating around its own axis and by changing direction very gradually.

Kara Sharalien
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.01.13 23:14:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 13/01/2011 23:15:05
Originally by: Doctor Steinsbrow
Originally by: roastduck
Originally by: Davanev Hraldrsson

Stabber/Tempest - Just too thin in places, will snap if I make a hard turn


the lack of air in space makes Snapping of pieces of ships impossible on "hard turns" though if you replaced that word with "weapons fire" it might make sense.


There is no air resistance, but there is still inertia. Those pieces will want to resist the direction change, and the stresses could make them snap.


i'm honestly interested in finding out how the ISS stays in one piece then


They try not to move it. Inertia is resistance to a change in the state of movement. The ISS might be spinning rapidly around the world, but it always was, and unless you change the nature of its orbit, its existing movement (theoretically) creates no inertia. Any that does exist is very small.

If you did want to move the ISS, you probably wouldn't fling it around by making 432km/h over 3 second speed/direction changes, which is what the tempest does in game.


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