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Lady Ayeipsia
Posted - 2011.01.11 15:17:00 - [1]
 

So I trained Minmitar Cruiser to 5 wanting the Munin and Broadsword over the Onyx and Cerberus/Eagle.

I have a friend who likes running level 4 missions in his Tengu. Is it possible for a Loki to also run level 4 missions, or should I just shoot for a Tengu?

Demonai Striker
Posted - 2011.01.11 15:26:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Demonai Striker on 11/01/2011 15:27:08
I have never personally flown a tengu or a loki but i have seen a freind of mine ahnialate a lvl 4 mission in a loki with auto cannons and sheild boost fit, as long as you keep away from the blood raiders... neuts arent good for your health..

the tengu on the other hand gets musch more range with heavy missiles 80-85km with decent skills i believe, still sheild boost but atleast you can keep your distance.

hope i helped a lil, =3

Kargyraa
Posted - 2011.01.11 16:23:00 - [3]
 

I run level 4s just fine in my mostly t2 fit Loki. I mainly go with the t2 fit as it is sufficient to clear any level 4 I have been in and I hope it makes me look less tempting to high sec gank.

I get very few Blood missions so I haven't ran into neuting issues just yet, but the biggest issue I have ran into is multiple webbers in a mission since a large amount of the tank is speed of the loki, but the ship will take out the webbers fast enough in most cases to not be a major issue.

With my t2 fit I have a 530dps active omni tank and 560dps with drones. With a faction fit I can increase that to a 610dps active omni tank and 750dps damage (with drones). Cap stable in both cases.

In both cases I use the Fuel Catalyst sub system and have a speed around 800m/s which makes the tank more than sufficient.

Ceti Lomax
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.11 16:25:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia
So I trained Minmitar Cruiser to 5 wanting the Munin and Broadsword over the Onyx and Cerberus/Eagle.

I have a friend who likes running level 4 missions in his Tengu. Is it possible for a Loki to also run level 4 missions, or should I just shoot for a Tengu?


I use both. An AC Loki is better than the Tengu against opponents with good resists to kinetic damage. Use it against Mercs (with Phased Plasma ammo) or Angels (with Fusion ammo). The Loki goes fast enough to compensate for the disadvantage in range.

Tengu is still king against Mordus, Guristas or the Caldari Navy ... and it is safer to use a long range or passive tanked ship against neuting Blood Raiders.








eek amouse
Posted - 2011.01.11 18:07:00 - [5]
 

love my loki. you have to pay attention to positioning to minimize the amount of flying around you have to do but it's not that bad. i don't fly a tengu to be able to compare but i think i've got a setup that works pretty well. can kill webby frigs and destroyers at over 40km away. i kill those first then i can aggro everything in the room and pop the stuff that's already close, while the other rats make their way over. cruisers and battle cruisers within 25km. once it's just the battleship ball left, you can just do a slow, close orbit to keep them in place and burn them down.

[Loki, High sec mission]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Tracking Computer II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gist C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier

425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
Salvager II

Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
Put whatever rig you want here

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Warrior II

Linda Flamewalker
Posted - 2011.01.11 18:26:00 - [6]
 

[Loki, my mission loki]
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster

Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Terror Assault Missile
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Is what i use. and tbh.. yes it chews through any lvl 4 without much trouble (need to be somewhat careful against blood raiders but frankly can tank them without booster and ab too).

The problem is the extremely short range. I am getting to the point where i am not enjoying having to move around so much so i have given in and is training for the tengu. The extra range is important and with the loki always being in falloff your dps isnt as good as it looks on paper. BUT that said. it is capable of taking any lvl 4 and just plow through them. Full room aggro or no. even webs is of little concern tbh.


 

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