| Author |
Topic |
Andre Vauban
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.04 16:56:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Andre Vauban on 04/01/2011 17:02:32
I'm trying to understand the spectrum of corp capabilities and classify them. The reason for this is to give the smaller folks an idea on how they compare to the big boys. This will enable us smaller entities to understand what we need to achieve to become "better".
For example, here are some standard capabilities. Using these questions, what answer would you give to determine how a corp fits into various buckets. If we use 4 buckets, low would be represent the low end corps, medium would represent presumably most Alliance corps, high would represent the top end alliance corps, and ultra-high would represent corps that had capabilities greater than a large number of alliances.
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-Corporation member count.
Low <20, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high >1000?
-Max possible fleet size during "prime-time".
Low <5, medium <20, large <75, ultra-high >75?
-Average pilots logged in during "prime-time"
Low <5, medium <20, large <100, ultra-high >100?
-Corp wallet size.
Low <100M, medium <1B, large <1000B, ultra-high >1000B?
-Number of capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <50, ultra-high >50?
-Number of super capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Time zone coverage.
Low 4 hours/day coverage, medium 8 hours/day coverage, large 16 hours/day coverage, ultra-high 23x7 coverage
-Number of jump freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium 1, large <5, ultra-high >5?
-Number of freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium <10, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Number of BPOs
Low 0, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high every T1 BPO in game?
-Number of capital manufacturers
Low 0, medium 1, large <10, ultra-high >10
-Corp ship replacement
Low none, medium T1 ships @mineral cost, large free T1 ships, ultra-high free T1/T2 ships?
-Communications/Forums/etc (out-of game)
Low forums-only, medium forums+voice(vent/TS/etc), large forums+voice with API integration, ultra-high integrated forums+voice+wiki+IRC/chat+web-services (automated member shopping/POS maint/etc) with API integration?
Fleet composition
Low "whatever people have", medium "loose guidelines", high "exact standard fittings across all races", ultra-high "we all fly the exact same ships for a given fleet (ie single race drake+scimi/zealot+guardian/etc)"?
Number of FCs
Low 1, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
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Are there any other measuring sticks by which a corporation should be judged that I missed? |
Pirokobo
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2011.01.05 02:23:00 - [ 2]
Uh, is it good or bad that I can count all our FCs on one hand? |
Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2011.01.05 02:40:00 - [ 3]
 Originally by: Andre Vauban
Edited by: Andre Vauban on 04/01/2011 17:02:32
I'm trying to understand the spectrum of corp capabilities and classify them. The reason for this is to give the smaller folks an idea on how they compare to the big boys. This will enable us smaller entities to understand what we need to achieve to become "better".
For example, here are some standard capabilities. Using these questions, what answer would you give to determine how a corp fits into various buckets. If we use 4 buckets, low would be represent the low end corps, medium would represent presumably most Alliance corps, high would represent the top end alliance corps, and ultra-high would represent corps that had capabilities greater than a large number of alliances.
-------------------------
-Corporation member count.
Low <20, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high >1000?
-Max possible fleet size during "prime-time".
Low <5, medium <20, large <75, ultra-high >75?
-Average pilots logged in during "prime-time"
Low <5, medium <20, large <100, ultra-high >100?
-Corp wallet size.
Low <100M, medium <1B, large <1000B, ultra-high >1000B?
-Number of capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <50, ultra-high >50?
-Number of super capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Time zone coverage.
Low 4 hours/day coverage, medium 8 hours/day coverage, large 16 hours/day coverage, ultra-high 23x7 coverage
-Number of jump freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium 1, large <5, ultra-high >5?
-Number of freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium <10, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Number of BPOs
Low 0, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high every T1 BPO in game?
-Number of capital manufacturers
Low 0, medium 1, large <10, ultra-high >10
-Corp ship replacement
Low none, medium T1 ships @mineral cost, large free T1 ships, ultra-high free T1/T2 ships?
-Communications/Forums/etc (out-of game)
Low forums-only, medium forums+voice(vent/TS/etc), large forums+voice with API integration, ultra-high integrated forums+voice+wiki+IRC/chat+web-services (automated member shopping/POS maint/etc) with API integration?
Fleet composition
Low "whatever people have", medium "loose guidelines", high "exact standard fittings across all races", ultra-high "we all fly the exact same ships for a given fleet (ie single race drake+scimi/zealot+guardian/etc)"?
Number of FCs
Low 1, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
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Are there any other measuring sticks by which a corporation should be judged that I missed?
Quoting to take up space |
Aditia Holdem
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2011.01.05 03:32:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Aditia Holdem on 05/01/2011 03:46:04 Originally by: Andre Vauban
Are there any other measuring sticks by which a corporation should be judged that I missed?
Members are generally terrible/awesome at flying internet spaceships Low: x drake Medium: x scimi/vaga/recon or whatever u need FC Large: x pro scout, lemme tackle you some carriers Ultra-High: "My spy just got the password to some titanpos, I'm about to ECM burst him, login ur supers and get Machs on my titan" |
Angry BIackMan
Minmatar
The xLIFEx Squadron
|
Posted - 2011.01.05 03:45:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: Angry BIackMan on 05/01/2011 03:45:24Well to answer all your questions... WE FORM IDIOTS (VOLTRON) is what you don't want in any corp or alliance. They are massively dripping with fail juice and anyone that comes near them will just slip and fall. I'M FURIOUS!!!  |
Zanielyene
Minmatar
Did I just do that
Ultra-violence |
Posted - 2011.01.05 03:46:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: Zanielyene on 05/01/2011 03:46:32
ITT op thinks getting 75 people to show up to a fleet qualifies as ultra high size.
Judging by the rest of these numbers he has never been in a serious corp in his e career |
Andre Vauban
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
|
Posted - 2011.01.05 03:55:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Zanielyene
Edited by: Zanielyene on 05/01/2011 03:46:32
ITT op thinks getting 75 people to show up to a fleet qualifies as ultra high size.
Judging by the rest of these numbers he has never been in a serious corp in his e career
Correct, I have never been in a major alliance and don't know the answers. I just took wild guesses. I posted this question because I have no clue and was looking for input. Since you are in one of the largest alliances numbers-wise, how would you answer? |
Zanielyene
Minmatar
Did I just do that
Ultra-violence |
Posted - 2011.01.05 04:04:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Andre Vauban
Originally by: Zanielyene
Edited by: Zanielyene on 05/01/2011 03:46:32
ITT op thinks getting 75 people to show up to a fleet qualifies as ultra high size.
Judging by the rest of these numbers he has never been in a serious corp in his e career
Correct, I have never been in a major alliance and don't know the answers. I just took wild guesses. I posted this question because I have no clue and was looking for input. Since you are in one of the largest alliances numbers-wise, how would you answer?
It's very hard to quantify an alliance's strength like this. One alliance may have 3 FCs who run a dozen ops/week while another may have 20 FCs who run one op/week. Fleet size isn't a good indicator either, because that can vary wildly depending on the time, date, and what kind of op it is. As for average members online and timezone coverage, those two should be merged into a line graph of time vs. average members online at that time. Even wallet size is a bad indicator. TEST has an extremely tight wallet right now and recently had a large donation drive because the budget was lagging so badly, meanwhile IT likely has a budget 20x (conservative) the size of TEST's, and is probably even bigger than the cumulative budget of the entire deklein coalition, but who is winning that war? It's deklein coalition. Just pointing out that quantifying things like this would require a lot more than these simple statistics to predict alliance strength. I would go more into detail but I dun wanna spend an hour typing on how to do fancy calculus and statistical analysis. |
Nynjato
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2011.01.05 06:47:00 - [ 9]
Edited by: Nynjato on 05/01/2011 08:02:41
ITT: Someone who doesn't know how to use less than (<) or greater than (>) properly. |
Hei fer
Amarr
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle |
Posted - 2011.01.05 08:38:00 - [ 10]
ITT: Eve-University is the greatest corp in Eve-Online. |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2011.01.06 00:33:00 - [ 11]
I'm ultra-high right now |
Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
|
Posted - 2011.01.06 00:52:00 - [ 12]
Q-CATS Rating: Blobtards
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Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2011.01.06 01:49:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Andre Vauban
Edited by: Andre Vauban on 04/01/2011 17:02:32
I'm trying to understand the spectrum of corp capabilities and classify them. The reason for this is to give the smaller folks an idea on how they compare to the big boys. This will enable us smaller entities to understand what we need to achieve to become "better".
For example, here are some standard capabilities. Using these questions, what answer would you give to determine how a corp fits into various buckets. If we use 4 buckets, low would be represent the low end corps, medium would represent presumably most Alliance corps, high would represent the top end alliance corps, and ultra-high would represent corps that had capabilities greater than a large number of alliances.
-------------------------
-Corporation member count.
Low <20, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high >1000?
-Max possible fleet size during "prime-time".
Low <5, medium <20, large <75, ultra-high >75?
-Average pilots logged in during "prime-time"
Low <5, medium <20, large <100, ultra-high >100?
-Corp wallet size.
Low <100M, medium <1B, large <1000B, ultra-high >1000B?
-Number of capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <50, ultra-high >50?
-Number of super capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Time zone coverage.
Low 4 hours/day coverage, medium 8 hours/day coverage, large 16 hours/day coverage, ultra-high 23x7 coverage
-Number of jump freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium 1, large <5, ultra-high >5?
-Number of freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium <10, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Number of BPOs
Low 0, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high every T1 BPO in game?
-Number of capital manufacturers
Low 0, medium 1, large <10, ultra-high >10
-Corp ship replacement
Low none, medium T1 ships @mineral cost, large free T1 ships, ultra-high free T1/T2 ships?
-Communications/Forums/etc (out-of game)
Low forums-only, medium forums+voice(vent/TS/etc), large forums+voice with API integration, ultra-high integrated forums+voice+wiki+IRC/chat+web-services (automated member shopping/POS maint/etc) with API integration?
Fleet composition
Low "whatever people have", medium "loose guidelines", high "exact standard fittings across all races", ultra-high "we all fly the exact same ships for a given fleet (ie single race drake+scimi/zealot+guardian/etc)"?
Number of FCs
Low 1, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-------------------------
Are there any other measuring sticks by which a corporation should be judged that I missed?
Quoting to take up space
Quoting again for... erm... keepsake? |
Noir Avlaa
Amarr
Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
|
Posted - 2011.01.06 01:52:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Andre Vauban
Edited by: Andre Vauban on 04/01/2011 17:02:32
I'm trying to understand the spectrum of corp capabilities and classify them. The reason for this is to give the smaller folks an idea on how they compare to the big boys. This will enable us smaller entities to understand what we need to achieve to become "better".
For example, here are some standard capabilities. Using these questions, what answer would you give to determine how a corp fits into various buckets. If we use 4 buckets, low would be represent the low end corps, medium would represent presumably most Alliance corps, high would represent the top end alliance corps, and ultra-high would represent corps that had capabilities greater than a large number of alliances.
-------------------------
-Corporation member count.
Low <20, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high >1000?
-Max possible fleet size during "prime-time".
Low <5, medium <20, large <75, ultra-high >75?
-Average pilots logged in during "prime-time"
Low <5, medium <20, large <100, ultra-high >100?
-Corp wallet size.
Low <100M, medium <1B, large <1000B, ultra-high >1000B?
-Number of capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <50, ultra-high >50?
-Number of super capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Time zone coverage.
Low 4 hours/day coverage, medium 8 hours/day coverage, large 16 hours/day coverage, ultra-high 23x7 coverage
-Number of jump freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium 1, large <5, ultra-high >5?
-Number of freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium <10, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Number of BPOs
Low 0, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high every T1 BPO in game?
-Number of capital manufacturers
Low 0, medium 1, large <10, ultra-high >10
-Corp ship replacement
Low none, medium T1 ships @mineral cost, large free T1 ships, ultra-high free T1/T2 ships?
-Communications/Forums/etc (out-of game)
Low forums-only, medium forums+voice(vent/TS/etc), large forums+voice with API integration, ultra-high integrated forums+voice+wiki+IRC/chat+web-services (automated member shopping/POS maint/etc) with API integration?
Fleet composition
Low "whatever people have", medium "loose guidelines", high "exact standard fittings across all races", ultra-high "we all fly the exact same ships for a given fleet (ie single race drake+scimi/zealot+guardian/etc)"?
Number of FCs
Low 1, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-------------------------
Are there any other measuring sticks by which a corporation should be judged that I missed?
Quoting to take up space
Quoting again for... erm... keepsake?
Quoting for WIdot confirmation of quote. |
Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
|
Posted - 2011.01.06 01:54:00 - [ 15]
Quote:
Quote emptying |
Raiiden
Gallente
D00M.
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2011.01.07 07:12:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
I'm ultra-high right now
|
Tiberizzle
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2011.01.07 10:56:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Noir Avlaa
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Andre Vauban
Edited by: Andre Vauban on 04/01/2011 17:02:32
I'm trying to understand the spectrum of corp capabilities and classify them. The reason for this is to give the smaller folks an idea on how they compare to the big boys. This will enable us smaller entities to understand what we need to achieve to become "better".
For example, here are some standard capabilities. Using these questions, what answer would you give to determine how a corp fits into various buckets. If we use 4 buckets, low would be represent the low end corps, medium would represent presumably most Alliance corps, high would represent the top end alliance corps, and ultra-high would represent corps that had capabilities greater than a large number of alliances.
-------------------------
-Corporation member count.
Low <20, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high >1000?
-Max possible fleet size during "prime-time".
Low <5, medium <20, large <75, ultra-high >75?
-Average pilots logged in during "prime-time"
Low <5, medium <20, large <100, ultra-high >100?
-Corp wallet size.
Low <100M, medium <1B, large <1000B, ultra-high >1000B?
-Number of capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <50, ultra-high >50?
-Number of super capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Time zone coverage.
Low 4 hours/day coverage, medium 8 hours/day coverage, large 16 hours/day coverage, ultra-high 23x7 coverage
-Number of jump freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium 1, large <5, ultra-high >5?
-Number of freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium <10, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Number of BPOs
Low 0, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high every T1 BPO in game?
-Number of capital manufacturers
Low 0, medium 1, large <10, ultra-high >10
-Corp ship replacement
Low none, medium T1 ships @mineral cost, large free T1 ships, ultra-high free T1/T2 ships?
-Communications/Forums/etc (out-of game)
Low forums-only, medium forums+voice(vent/TS/etc), large forums+voice with API integration, ultra-high integrated forums+voice+wiki+IRC/chat+web-services (automated member shopping/POS maint/etc) with API integration?
Fleet composition
Low "whatever people have", medium "loose guidelines", high "exact standard fittings across all races", ultra-high "we all fly the exact same ships for a given fleet (ie single race drake+scimi/zealot+guardian/etc)"?
Number of FCs
Low 1, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-------------------------
Are there any other measuring sticks by which a corporation should be judged that I missed?
Quoting to take up space
Quoting again for... erm... keepsake?
Quoting for WIdot confirmation of quote.
pyramid quote go |
raknor bile
Gallente
Make isk quick corp
|
Posted - 2011.01.07 11:21:00 - [ 18]
Pyramid quoting (quoting more than 4 people recursively) is not allowed, please remove some of the quotes and try again!
CONCORD has been notified. This makes me sad. |
Digital Emperor
Amarr
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2011.01.07 11:23:00 - [ 19]
Edited by: Digital Emperor on 07/01/2011 11:23:09 Originally by: Tiberizzle
Originally by: Andre Vauban
Edited by: Andre Vauban on 04/01/2011 17:02:32
I'm trying to understand the spectrum of corp capabilities and classify them. The reason for this is to give the smaller folks an idea on how they compare to the big boys. This will enable us smaller entities to understand what we need to achieve to become "better".
For example, here are some standard capabilities. Using these questions, what answer would you give to determine how a corp fits into various buckets. If we use 4 buckets, low would be represent the low end corps, medium would represent presumably most Alliance corps, high would represent the top end alliance corps, and ultra-high would represent corps that had capabilities greater than a large number of alliances.
-------------------------
-Corporation member count.
Low <20, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high >1000?
-Max possible fleet size during "prime-time".
Low <5, medium <20, large <75, ultra-high >75?
-Average pilots logged in during "prime-time"
Low <5, medium <20, large <100, ultra-high >100?
-Corp wallet size.
Low <100M, medium <1B, large <1000B, ultra-high >1000B?
-Number of capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <50, ultra-high >50?
-Number of super capital pilots.
Low 0, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Time zone coverage.
Low 4 hours/day coverage, medium 8 hours/day coverage, large 16 hours/day coverage, ultra-high 23x7 coverage
-Number of jump freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium 1, large <5, ultra-high >5?
-Number of freighter pilots/alts
Low 0, medium <10, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-Number of BPOs
Low 0, medium <100, large <1000, ultra-high every T1 BPO in game?
-Number of capital manufacturers
Low 0, medium 1, large <10, ultra-high >10
-Corp ship replacement
Low none, medium T1 ships @mineral cost, large free T1 ships, ultra-high free T1/T2 ships?
-Communications/Forums/etc (out-of game)
Low forums-only, medium forums+voice(vent/TS/etc), large forums+voice with API integration, ultra-high integrated forums+voice+wiki+IRC/chat+web-services (automated member shopping/POS maint/etc) with API integration?
Fleet composition
Low "whatever people have", medium "loose guidelines", high "exact standard fittings across all races", ultra-high "we all fly the exact same ships for a given fleet (ie single race drake+scimi/zealot+guardian/etc)"?
Number of FCs
Low 1, medium <5, large <20, ultra-high >20?
-------------------------
Are there any other measuring sticks by which a corporation should be judged that I missed?
Quoting to take up space
Quoting again for... erm... keepsake?
Quoting for WIdot confirmation of quote.
pyramid quote go
facial qoute |
Dray
Caldari
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2011.01.07 11:31:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
I'm ultra-high right now
Still on the Catnip..  |
General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde |
Posted - 2011.01.07 11:47:00 - [ 21]
I have developed a new and complex system for calibrating the capabilities and potential offered by an alliances external communication stategic vision. Broadly speaking individuals can be categorised into:
1. Stop posting (you are Flinx Evenstar or Metal Dude).
2. Terribad posting (you are in test)
3. No-one cares (you live in the dronelands)
4. Hey, nice post (you are SnotShot)
5. Firkin legend (in which case you are me).
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Inbrainsane
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2011.01.07 12:35:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Andre Vauban
I'm trying to understand the spectrum of corp capabilities and classify them.
This is your spectrum: Bad Posting ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Good Posting Originally by: Andre Vauban
The reason for this is to give the smaller folks an idea on how they compare to the big boys. This will enable us smaller entities to understand what we need to achieve to become "better".
You need to improve your posting. Currently you are where the X is: Bad Posting :X::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Good Posting |
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