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Locin WeEda
Gallente
Red Frog Investments
Posted - 2011.02.16 07:53:00 - [361]
 

Edited by: Locin WeEda on 16/02/2011 08:14:46

Forwarding of contracts:
Very nice touch to automagically add the destination of the courier package you are forwarding as the destination of the new package.

One old problem remains:
when attempting to forward a courier contract, and the courier contract contains assembled ships or assembled containers (with or without content), you will not be able to finalize the forwarding of the contract due to a container in container error. The only way to transfer and complete such a courier package to another pilot is to trade the package physically in both pickup station and destination station.

Would it be possible to resolve this in any way?
The best solution would be if contracts containing assembled ships and assembled containers could be forwarded in the same manner as other courier contracts.

There may be technical problems that may prevent the above solution, so the next best thing would be a way to easily identify those contracts that can and can't be forwarded before you accept them, e.g. via a text message (can/cannot be forwarded), or a symbol. Someone setting up such a courier contract should also be notified of this when they are setting it up.

As it is now, you can only discover it after you have accepted the courier contract.

Volume of forwarded courier contracts

When forwarding a courier contract, the volume indicator stays at zero during the whole courier contract creation process (but is displayed correctly in the end on the contract). This should be fixed.

Completing forwarded contracts
There is this bug that pops up with infrequent intervals, that cause the complete and fail button to dissappear from the courier contract in progress. The work-around is to complete the contract by right clicking on the package, and select deliver courier package.

Would it be possible to get this option available from assets as well. That is, to remotely complete a courier contract from assets, if it is in the correct location.
(or fix the missing complete and fail button bug that have been with us since contracts first was added in the game). The bug is so infrequent that it is difficult to find out what is causing it, but it can be very annoying when it appears on a forwarded contract, as you then have to travel to the destination to complete it (when you just got someone else to move it there for you).



Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2011.02.16 12:28:00 - [362]
 

Any chance we can have a comprehensive list of ways to search for modules and ships, with all the possible combinations? I mean in the box where you can fill in the name of the item.

CCP Chronotis

Posted - 2011.02.16 15:25:00 - [363]
 

Originally by: Rivqua
Any chance we can have a comprehensive list of ways to search for modules and ships, with all the possible combinations? I mean in the box where you can fill in the name of the item.


the syntax is <category or group Name>:<partial name>|<metagroup>

-category or group name is currently case sensitive (accepts only lowercase) but this is being fixed, examples are Charge or Module or Energy Weapon or Smartbomb for example of categories and groups.
-meta group is any of the following

  • tech i

  • tech ii

  • tech iii

  • storyline

  • faction

  • deadspace

  • officer



Example:


  • Imperial|Faction = any contract where any of its content types has a partial typeName "Imperial" and is in faction metagroup

  • charge:Imperial|Faction = any contract where any of its content types has a partial typeName "Imperial" and is in the "charge" category in faction metagroup so will find things like Imperial Navy Multifrequency S for example.




Chastity Frost
Posted - 2011.02.16 21:04:00 - [364]
 

Very HappyJust love the new contract search beta feature. It is very helpful and quite easy to use.

Wurzel Gummidge
Posted - 2011.02.17 00:30:00 - [365]
 

Love the new contracts search, just wish the sorting hadn't taken a step backwards with today's update. When sorting by price descending, the highest price contracts should appear on the first page, not at the top of each page in the search. That was how the old search used to do it. Until today the new search got it right so who messed up?

Sturmwolke
Posted - 2011.02.17 04:01:00 - [366]
 

Edited by: Sturmwolke on 17/02/2011 08:09:02

Originally by: CCP Chronotis

the syntax is <category or group Name>:<partial name>|<metagroup>



I'd put that in a mouseover or help "i" link (to possibly even Evelopedia) for the Search bar. No many is going to remember nor dig into old threads to look up basic syntax rules which should have been made available explicitly by default - rather than relying on players passing them on by word of mouth.

On another tangent, the "Copy" function for contracts sits rather buried under the interface layer. It's not immediately intuititive to players that a Copy function even exists for contracts until they click on the History list icon. (Having players access the History list to perform a copy function doesn't make much sense). I would suggest moving it up a layer for posterity that even a newbie at contracts is keenly aware that it exists - best way I could think of at the moment is to add a small multi-function icon next to the History list. Additionally, it would be convenient to right click -> Copy Contract when viewing your own contract list ... just below the View Contract.

Finally, "Copy" is a word I would rather avoid as it's a bit wierd to say "Just copy the contract ..", also keeping in mind that it's a very common word for S&I. The better wording would be "Duplicate" as it makes sense to say "Just duplicate contract ..." or "It's a duplicate contract .."

Edit: more details 2nd para

Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
Posted - 2011.02.17 09:31:00 - [367]
 

Edited by: Serge Bastana on 17/02/2011 10:34:34
Give us back the sorting drop down selectors on the search beta, mine have been replaced by a min and max price text box. Nowhere near as useful as the sorting drop downs.

Edit: Finally found the sorting options dropdown, tucked away in the top right corner of the contracts window. Why move it?

CCP Atlas

Posted - 2011.02.17 19:39:00 - [368]
 

Originally by: Locin WeEda
One old problem remains:
when attempting to forward a courier contract, and the courier contract contains assembled ships or assembled containers (with or without content), you will not be able to finalize the forwarding of the contract due to a container in container error. The only way to transfer and complete such a courier package to another pilot is to trade the package physically in both pickup station and destination station.


This is an unintented side-effect to a technical constraint which is difficult to resolve but we are working on ways around it for this particular case. Hopefully we will be able to alleviate some of the issues (especially in the case of ships).
Originally by: Locin WeEda
When forwarding a courier contract, the volume indicator stays at zero during the whole courier contract creation process (but is displayed correctly in the end on the contract). This should be fixed.


The plastic wrap container doesn't have a client-known volume but we are finding a way to address this, possibly by adding volume information into the container-is-not-empty confirmation.
Originally by: Locin WeEda
There is this bug that pops up with infrequent intervals, that cause the complete and fail button to dissappear from the courier contract in progress. The work-around is to complete the contract by right clicking on the package, and select deliver courier package.


We're hopeful this bug has been fixed internally and will be deployed before long.

Sol Vento
Posted - 2011.02.18 05:11:00 - [369]
 

need option in Contract Type "Want To Sell & Auctions"

Hastrin
Posted - 2011.02.18 13:38:00 - [370]
 

If this has been reported before, im sorry

At this moment i have 5 contracts up for Federation Navy Magnetic Field stabilisers. They are public, in jita 4/4 for 65ea

If i searcg the contract from this character or an alt, i cant find them in the beta search. i can find them in the normal search. if i uncheck lowsec and 0sec contracts they show up.

ive asked several friends to search for them, and about half can find them, the other half cant find them. so either half of us does something wrong, or the search does?:)

Sultan Khan
Posted - 2011.02.18 18:44:00 - [371]
 

Absolute Cargo running noob here - just found this link - First observation is that I would like to be able to sort contracts by cargo volume.

Such a filter would be helpful to me as Im only using a Prowler with its limited cargo capacity.

Appologies if this has already been discussed, not had time to read through the entire thread.

Dr Yukazuma
Posted - 2011.02.19 09:22:00 - [372]
 

In reference to sorting by Volume, you can do that.. expand your options, it's the last set of boxes, first set being Rewards Min and Max, then Collateral Min and Max, than lastly Volume, the minimum and maximum amounts. BTW, thanks CCP for adding the High/Low/Null sec filters!

Doc

TXMMI
Posted - 2011.02.19 11:01:00 - [373]
 

Originally by: Hastrin
If this has been reported before, im sorry

At this moment i have 5 contracts up for Federation Navy Magnetic Field stabilisers. They are public, in jita 4/4 for 65ea

If i searcg the contract from this character or an alt, i cant find them in the beta search. i can find them in the normal search. if i uncheck lowsec and 0sec contracts they show up.

ive asked several friends to search for them, and about half can find them, the other half cant find them. so either half of us does something wrong, or the search does?:)


I have the same problem as poster above. Tried searching in the beta search in every possible way, but they simply don't show up.

Admiral Fred
Posted - 2011.02.19 18:36:00 - [374]
 

What happened to the filter for removing WTB from the search? I dont want to see Want to Buy results when I am the one buying.

Admiral Fred
Posted - 2011.02.19 18:39:00 - [375]
 

NM I see you changed filter from checkboxes to a drop down.

Booboo DeFoo
Posted - 2011.02.20 04:49:00 - [376]
 

For the love of all that is good and holy, please replace the "Exclude Want to Buy" checkbox to its rightful place and allow us the option to relegate their useless electrons to the void from whence they came.

Implimentation of snap-to-top on page change = awesome

rufeno
Posted - 2011.02.20 05:04:00 - [377]
 

did you change something with the assembled ship yet? I seem to be able to courier my package to an alt even if it has one in it, only problem is, I can't complete it! It give me (and my fellow RF pilot) an error. "missing an item" or something like that.

so we need to break the package and fail the contract, then item exchange it.. which kinda defeat the purpose. ;)


Xearo001
Posted - 2011.02.20 07:53:00 - [378]
 

Ok first of all very nice user interface, unfortionalty been expericancing problem. I have tried serching for a Gila Blueprint copy using the new search tool, results where 3, i then did it the good old fasioned way more results then i can count, same when i was searching a few other items, i am afraid i sticking to the old tried and tested methord as i am missing so many results. ugh

Hechter
Posted - 2011.02.20 11:02:00 - [379]
 

Originally by: Xearo001
Ok first of all very nice user interface, unfortionalty been expericancing problem. I have tried serching for a Gila Blueprint copy using the new search tool, results where 3, i then did it the good old fasioned way more results then i can count, same when i was searching a few other items, i am afraid i sticking to the old tried and tested methord as i am missing so many results. ugh


Just had the same experience after enabling the Beta contracts, knew of a Mega BPO that I wanted to get having found it on the original search, put all the info in on the new one and it wont find anything. I'd even gone through some of the suggestions above like unchecking low and 0.0 but nothing appeared.

Then I even cleared everything and just put the sellers name in and it displayed it which isn't very clever Sad If the cluster hadn't shut down, I'd have taken some screenshots to post Confused

CCP Atlas

Posted - 2011.02.20 13:42:00 - [380]
 

Originally by: Hechter
Originally by: Xearo001
Ok first of all very nice user interface, unfortionalty been expericancing problem. I have tried serching for a Gila Blueprint copy using the new search tool, results where 3, i then did it the good old fasioned way more results then i can count, same when i was searching a few other items, i am afraid i sticking to the old tried and tested methord as i am missing so many results. ugh


Just had the same experience after enabling the Beta contracts, knew of a Mega BPO that I wanted to get having found it on the original search, put all the info in on the new one and it wont find anything. I'd even gone through some of the suggestions above like unchecking low and 0.0 but nothing appeared.

Then I even cleared everything and just put the sellers name in and it displayed it which isn't very clever Sad If the cluster hadn't shut down, I'd have taken some screenshots to post Confused


I would definitely like to see some screenshots since we have no known issues in-house with this. Please submit bug reports with screenshots so that we can take a look. Thanks!

Hechter
Posted - 2011.02.20 14:58:00 - [381]
 

Originally by: CCP Atlas
I would definitely like to see some screenshots since we have no known issues in-house with this. Please submit bug reports with screenshots so that we can take a look. Thanks!


CCP Atlas : bug report submitted, not sure if I can put the report ID here for you, if you need it to help speed stuff up, let me know Smile

Hyperion Noose
Posted - 2011.02.21 10:47:00 - [382]
 

so I was thinking

"I REALLY want to sort these contracts by WTB and WTS"

clicked on the betato the contract search and it made me so happy to find the option....thank you CCP I love you.

Aeshir
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.21 21:41:00 - [383]
 

I love it. 'nuff said
Keep up the good work Very Happy

Adriav Saacronal
Gallente
Posted - 2011.02.23 01:56:00 - [384]
 

Appologies if this has been reported, but one the start page i have a Contract assigned to me but whne i click it it goes to the beta contract search tab and sais "No Contracts Found" instead of going to My contracts page and showing the contract. At firts it would not even show up under my contracts, i.e. I could not see the contract assigned to me. I disabled the beta and re-enabled it, now they atleast show up when you manually go to my contracts page and hit Get Contracts. Other than that it's an awsome impovment. Thank you CCP.

Sturmwolke
Posted - 2011.02.24 12:52:00 - [385]
 

Originally by: Adriav Saacronal
Appologies if this has been reported, but one the start page i have a Contract assigned to me but whne i click it it goes to the beta contract search tab and sais "No Contracts Found" instead of going to My contracts page and showing the contract.


I'm betting the issue that you experienced has something to do with the one of the persistent contract Options filtering out the assigned contract. Went through the exact steps and oiginally thought it was a bug ... until I noticed the filtering.

Fyi CCP, this is a UI process issue that needs a fix (if not already noted).

Commander Acturus
Posted - 2011.02.24 20:06:00 - [386]
 

There seems to be a bug that some contracts assigned to the playyer don't register.

I've had several 'contracts' assigned to me that whenevre I click the link, It pulls up no contracts are found.

Now this might be seen as a bug on the contractnotification, until i tried doing it from one alt to another.

I had to disable the beta in order to 'find' the contract.

Tsilia Trurl
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.02.24 21:32:00 - [387]
 

Needs an option for multiple items only, it is key for good buys.

Douglas G
Posted - 2011.02.25 02:16:00 - [388]
 

I like the layout of this new contract system and the filters. Two things I would like to see, would be a primary, and secondary sort. Also, a isk per jump rating in the overview without viewing the individual contract, that we could also sort by.

Cayate
Posted - 2011.02.25 09:10:00 - [389]
 

Would be nice if the Range filters worked. I tried putitng in how much collateral I oculd deal with so not to have to search through a long list wishing people didn't put such a high collateral for such a low and pathetic reward. but it stillg vies me a full list rather than only giving me what is in range of what I put in the filter

Nun Tufar
Posted - 2011.02.26 17:17:00 - [390]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Changes to the contracts system are coming with EVE Online: Incursion 1.1, and CCP Atlas' new dev blog gives all the details.


I have been using the beta version, I have found a problem though. A Corp mate assigned a contract to me but I was unable to locate it using the new version. I turned the Beta off and the contract pulled right up. Don't know the cause just thought it might be a bug.


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