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AtheistOfFail
AoF Lottery Services
Posted - 2010.12.25 18:23:00 - [1]
 

Profit with invention.

Shopping list
One DC2 BPO - 45k.
10 max run copies - 2k (takes 2 days).
datacores for 10 copies and 1 interface - 10m ISK.
PoS Fuel - Unsure but probably not a lot since the labs weren't being used for anything besides copying/researching.

Results
8 10-run DC2 BPCs. Max yield is about 40m if you build them.

Just a little FYI for those of you that are going to try Invention, don't rely on the failure/sucess rate to make your ISK. This should be supplemental income until you have level 5 skills. The chances at level 3 is about 44% from what i've heard.

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.25 18:49:00 - [2]
 

You obviously haven't done the math here. I can see several places that this is wrong:

1) Pos fuel is a non-neglegable cost, though you really only need labs for copying. I've had success reaching out to the copy cartels in the Sell Orders forum to procure bulk BPCs.

2) at all V skills, your chance of invention is 50.4%, not 80%, assuming that you don't use decryptors or a meta item (which you shouldn't).

3) Please show your math for a 40m profit for building these. I believe ballpark is closer to 10m assuming you have PE V, and you invented 5 BPCs.


AtheistOfFail
AoF Lottery Services
Posted - 2010.12.25 19:30:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Kalrand
5 BPCs.



Posting to confirm 5=8. Only in MD though. All other forums, 5=5.

Goparu Prdc3r
Caldari
SILICON LOTUS
Posted - 2010.12.25 19:52:00 - [4]
 

Op is wrong, there is no way every time you invent you get 8 out of 10.

May be you did once, but next time you'll get 2 out of 10, and so on.

Black Madness
Minmatar
Natural Born Builders
United Corporations Of Modern Eve
Posted - 2010.12.25 19:58:00 - [5]
 

8 out of 10 is a juicy you-wont-get-it-again-soon event Wink

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2010.12.25 20:37:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: AtheistOfFail

Just a little FYI for those of you that are going to try Invention, don't rely on the failure/sucess rate to make your ISK. This should be supplemental income until you have level 5 skills. The chances at level 3 is about 44% from what i've heard.


Thanks for the laugh. When I was full swing into invention a while ago most of my alts only had level 3 skills. Made 2-3 billion per month after plexes and pos fuel. Burned out after a year of nonstop clicking every 1 hr 15 minutes for 1 batch of 60 invention jobs. Plus the manufacturing jobs, buying materials, hauling materials, hauling items back, selling finished modules, ect...

Now for ships, you want level 4 if not 5 for your skills as those failures get expensive.




Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Preemptive Paranoia
Posted - 2010.12.26 03:36:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: AtheistOfFail

Just a little FYI for those of you that are going to try Invention, don't rely on the failure/sucess rate to make your ISK. This should be supplemental income until you have level 5 skills. The chances at level 3 is about 44% from what i've heard.


Thanks for the laugh. When I was full swing into invention a while ago most of my alts only had level 3 skills. Made 2-3 billion per month after plexes and pos fuel. Burned out after a year of nonstop clicking every 1 hr 15 minutes for 1 batch of 60 invention jobs. Plus the manufacturing jobs, buying materials, hauling materials, hauling items back, selling finished modules, ect...

Now for ships, you want level 4 if not 5 for your skills as those failures get expensive.


You went through all that crap for 100mil/day? Shocked

The more I learn about Invention and manufacturing the less inclined I am to engage in it.

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.12.26 05:48:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Kalrand
1) Pos fuel is a non-neglegable cost,


This. Futhermore, that's not even a ****ing word.

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.26 05:51:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Zeta Zhul
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: AtheistOfFail

Just a little FYI for those of you that are going to try Invention, don't rely on the failure/sucess rate to make your ISK. This should be supplemental income until you have level 5 skills. The chances at level 3 is about 44% from what i've heard.


Thanks for the laugh. When I was full swing into invention a while ago most of my alts only had level 3 skills. Made 2-3 billion per month after plexes and pos fuel. Burned out after a year of nonstop clicking every 1 hr 15 minutes for 1 batch of 60 invention jobs. Plus the manufacturing jobs, buying materials, hauling materials, hauling items back, selling finished modules, ect...

Now for ships, you want level 4 if not 5 for your skills as those failures get expensive.


You went through all that crap for 100mil/day? Shocked

The more I learn about Invention and manufacturing the less inclined I am to engage in it.


Buy a stack of BPCs from a copy cartel, buy some datacores and minerals in jita, and park an alt someplace quiet and do them as a side thing whenever you think to log onto that character. Train the remote science/manufacturing skill and you don't even have to worry about staying in the same station.

It's simple isk, but you can easily burn out if you try to maximize your profit here.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.12.26 16:36:00 - [10]
 

I don't know any of these copy cartels, care to evemail me a contact in one?

Goddess Alexi
Posted - 2010.12.26 16:57:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Goddess Alexi on 26/12/2010 16:56:53
Another fail thread.

Clementina
The Scope
Posted - 2010.12.26 20:55:00 - [12]
 

It seems like it would be somewhat easier to be a copy cartel.

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.26 21:38:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I don't know any of these copy cartels, care to evemail me a contact in one?


I bought out some corporations bulk stock a while (a year) ago, and I've been inventing off that pile ever since. (I got a good deal...)

There's always someone who's running a "copy shop" or something. Just go to the sell order page, and negotiate to buy in bulk.


 

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