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Kakon24
Posted - 2010.12.20 23:22:00 - [1]
 

Looking to start flying one. It doesnt seem to be that popular of a ship but I have heard good things about it. Any help will be much appreciated.

Professor Villinghopper
Posted - 2010.12.20 23:29:00 - [2]
 

Sell it, Buy Dramiel.
???
Profit!

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.12.20 23:31:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 20/12/2010 23:33:17
I'll post some fits when I get home. It's a good ship, even if it isn't a Dramiel. It's really easy to be underestimated in it. But, like all ships that are easy to be underestimated - there's usually a reason people feel that way. It really could be a boost, even if it is a step up from the Phantasm in relation to other ships its size.

-Liang

Kakon24
Posted - 2010.12.20 23:40:00 - [4]
 

cant fly a drameil or fit it with t2 weapons.

Aluka 7th
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.20 23:49:00 - [5]
 

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Medium Shield Extender II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Invulnerability Field II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I


Proxyyyy
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.12.21 03:38:00 - [6]
 

Very powerful ship! I tend only to have the Dramiel and Succubus as my main pirate-faction frigates. I've engaged many-Dramiels and 2 Daredevils in the Succubus.

Your p much equal to the Dramiel, in terms of damage and tank (atleast for most setups). The only real diffrence is cap usage, less-tracking and overall velocity. You can win against Daredevils, provided they're arent kiting you outside of scram range. You have a way better tank-gank-ratio than the Daredevil. You will out damage the Drameil at range and up close. I've only ever had tracking as a issue with the ship. One day it will track well, then another it wont against the same ship, doing the same thing (pretty weird).

Gank setups can do 190/dps with scorch! If you ever flown the coercer you'll know what that means. You can, dual propulsion, the ship or go for max-tank and gank, which i prefer when fighting other frigates. Medium pulse will give you overall more damage, but i have had tracking issues with it against Drameil's (although they still run away).

Basicaly, the Succubus is a Crusader with more tank and more damage, minus interceptor bonuses and velocity.

Sansha Nation and Angel Cartel are my prefered pirate factions at the moment (Serpentis comes in third).

Kakon24
Posted - 2010.12.21 19:32:00 - [7]
 

proxxy do you have a fit?

Proxyyyy
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.12.21 20:08:00 - [8]
 

Realy? You should figure this stuff out on your own, by trial and error. Since i lost one of these to stupidity (****ing diamonddog). You'll be able to see a loss mail of it. I prefer this setup because its more well rounded and able to tackle ships that use neuts and i have. Active-tank, makes fights v most Drameil setups p one-sided.

This setup has less damage than a gank-setup though: Does 160/dps(with scorch), 7,200ehp, 3000m/sec. Those figures are with my 2 billion worth of hardwires.


[Succubus, Succubus Light Pulse Laser M2]
True Sansha Heat Sink
Damage Control II

Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II

Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
True Sansha Small Nosferatu
True Sansha Small Nosferatu

Small Energy Burst Aerator I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II


-GL

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2010.12.21 22:53:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 21/12/2010 23:00:32
Have a few beers and say the name "Suck-a-bus". Bad ship compared to alternatives, even Imperial Slicer is better.
Originally by: Professor Villinghopper
Sell it, Buy Daredevil.
???
Profit!

Wow, that is one hell of a typo. I took the liberty of correcting it for you, no charge Very Happy

@Proxy: Try dumping that kind of cash + implants into a Slicer.
My basic fit with no pimp or implants gets [email protected], 5.2K EHP, active repair and 3.2k/[email protected] align .. burns Dramiels so fast its not even funny.
Abuse the snot out of metastasis rigs and let her rip.

Proxyyyy
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.12.22 03:39:00 - [10]
 

Already fooled around with many Slicer setups. Not a fan of the Slicer and im more focused on laser ships that do alot of damage and less about being able to run away. Kinda like the blaster philosophy, except with pretty lazorz = )

I do have Slicers around but, i enjoy flying the Succubus to be honest.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.12.22 04:11:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
even Imperial Slicer is better.


I require proof of this statement because I just don't see it. The Slicer's CPU is way too low.

-Liang

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2010.12.22 09:01:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
I require proof of this statement because I just don't see it. The Slicer's CPU is way too low.

Low CPU just means you are condemned to only use on heat-sink .. ever. Fight the urge to nano it and you'll find a whole new world open up ..

2x MPII
MWD, Scram
SARII, DCUII, 2xANPII, HSII
2xMetastasis, Locus.

That is the basic fit. Has enough speed/range to kite the occasional AB AF and enough damage to win the dps race against anything but Daredevils. Abuse the range for as long as possible before diving in for the kill.

Works a charm against Dramiels as stated, the actually good pilots may give you problems but if you know that's the target then switch to DLPII+Nos for uber-tracking.

Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.22 21:30:00 - [13]
 

fit it expensively
fly it in fountain

mmmBeef
Posted - 2010.12.23 04:54:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Lyris Nairn
fit it expensively
fly it in fountain


Gonna second this statement.

Fountains the bees knees right now.

TheMahdi
Posted - 2010.12.23 11:54:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: TheMahdi on 23/12/2010 11:57:30
Heres how you SHOULDNT fit a Succubus.

Lost that to a standard 400mm plate MWD Rifter.

MSE and/or web would of been much better.

Edit: It was quite close, got the Rifter to structure and started trying to disengage at armor but the Succubus is just too slow. It's no Dramiel, dual prop is only decent for fighting cruisers.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2010.12.23 12:07:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: TheMahdi
...Lost that to a standard 400mm plate MWD Rifter ...

No shame in that, the cruiser plate Rifter is insanely powerful against other frigates. Just has so damn much armour that it takes forever to chew through.
It is an unwieldy beast though so kiting it just inside scram range is a very viable tactic (if its AB then don't bother unless you can outrange it 'cause it will have web)


 

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