open All Channels
seplocked Ships and Modules
blankseplocked L4 Mission Vargur
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Author Topic

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.12.19 17:22:00 - [1]
 

This is my Vargur fit; I'm trying to avoid a cap boosted fit.

I'll be using T2 projectiles Soon (tm), so no need to tell me how dumb it is to fit meta 4 ACs.

[Vargur, Missions]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

100MN Afterburner II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Capacitor Battery II
Large Capacitor Battery II

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


What should I do to improve this? I'm open to a cap boosted fit, but I'd prefer not to, as it's one more thing I have to pay attention to while using salv/tb (alternately, I may drop the salv/tb and go cap boosted, which would allow me to reduce the number of slots i'm using on cap).


Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.12.19 17:35:00 - [2]
 

M4 ACs are fine for the most part - Barrage is a nice to have, not a must have. As to cap: I have run a large booster on mine - I find the XL to be a bit too cap hungry if I forget to turn it off while I'm looting. But then again, I had a couple of close calls with it fit that way! TBH, treat it exactly like you treated your Maelstrom, because that's what it really is.

-Liang

iKill Giants
Eternal Phoenix Rises
Posted - 2010.12.19 19:07:00 - [3]
 

To improve the fit you have in terms of overall use, the only suggestion I would make is Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancers to reach your farthest ranges, unless you are not interested in shooting outside of tractor range.

If your goal is capacitor stability, this fit sacrifices DPS and some tank to be stable.
[Vargur, Missions]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Gist C-Type 100MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Capacitor Battery II
Large Capacitor Battery II

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Rigel Silek
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.19 22:26:00 - [4]
 

I would consider using 650mm AC instead of the 800mm. You lose a little DPS but will gain better tracking so you should hit more and have more applied DPS. Also, the Vargur is just begging for faction mods. lol with this fit, while quite expensive, it does almost 100 more DPS (with both using standard Fusion ammo) with MUCH better tracking. Tracking on this setup is 0.1252 vs 0.0832 on yours (according to EVEHQ Fitter). This is pretty much the same tracking as 220mm T2 autocannons. Very Happy

One could say it is overtanked as well given the ~1300DPS tank vs Angels compared to ~580DPS tank on your fit.

One downside compared to your fit is that the cap only lasts 3m 12s with the hardeners, computer, and shield booster running compared to 3m 50s on your fit. But then this should do more than enough DPS and tank more than well enough to greatly reduce incoming DPS before tanking becomes an issue.

This fit is not my own but a slight modification of one found on Battleclinic.

[Vargur - 650mm AC]
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II

Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Core A-Type 100MN Afterburner

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II

Warrior II x5
Valkyrie II x5

Newbie Ned
Minmatar
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.19 22:42:00 - [5]
 

I like this:

[Vargur, Vargur]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II

Gist C-Type 100MN Afterburner
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Ballistic Deflection Field II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I


Vespa II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Obviously pimp to taste - a pith B or C is fine, the A is a little excessive. Caldari invulns if you want, gyros as soon as you can.

Zeg Zeguso
Posted - 2010.12.19 23:20:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Zeg Zeguso on 19/12/2010 23:20:39
If you want a mix cap stable/good tank and gank you could try this fitting.


[Vargur]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I,
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II

To get it capstable you will need the implants Squire CR8 and CC8 and maxed cap skills of course.

The Booster isn't so expensive atm, roundabout 700 +/- 20 mills in Jita

Cyrus Mierre
The Forsaken Legion
Posted - 2010.12.20 00:02:00 - [7]
 

[Vargur, Vargur 2TEs]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pith B-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I

Akiba Penrose
The Praxis Initiative
Posted - 2010.12.20 00:13:00 - [8]
 

Here is what I fly.


[Vargur, Mission]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

100MN Afterburner II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Republic Fleet Target Painter

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Warrior II x5
Valkyrie II x5



You don't really need a cap stable ship for missions, the dps and range is your best tank (+800dps and 89km falloff with barrage).
It tanks 722dps for over 2 mins, which is more then a enough to reduce incoming dps to below 300.

Never had any problems with lvl 4 mission in this setup.
Try it out ;)


PS
If you need to train up your shield skills first, i reccomend keeping the low slots and fit ancillary current(s) and a cap injector.
And dont forget the LX-2 and G2-Delta implants.

my2c

Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus
Posted - 2010.12.20 00:15:00 - [9]
 

My setup is cheap and effective. Very rarely needs to use the cap booster but it's there for when I do need it. If you use medium booster you only need a tech 1 since you cant get 2x800's in a tech 2 anyway. Obviously fit harderners according to mission.

[Vargur, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

Large Projectile Burst Aerator I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


 

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only