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Your Client
Posted - 2011.01.16 00:28:00 - [871]
 

Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
We need to be able to edit craniums. Head shape is a major part of defining who somebody is.


This. ^^

We also need

- more balding hairstyles for us balding people (receding hairlines and crowning).
- a darker 5 o'clock between the full bear and the "medium" one.
- hair length adjustments. A hair style might be good, but its just too long.
- more sunglass types. Why are they all aviators?
- regular glasses. But im sure in the future no one will need glasses.
- tattoos and large scars.
- body jewelry

Options needed.
- option to pause the character from moving around so much. please omg, they are so frustrating.
- a free "remaps" for the pic. (expires in x amount of time..) I made my character portrait and shes just a bit ugly, i dont know what i was doing that day, but beer was involved. She looks like a troll.


boseo
Gallente
Azure Horizon
Posted - 2011.01.16 01:16:00 - [872]
 

when I last used the character creator (15th January) I noticed the undo bar had disappeared and I could not see an button to undo. would be nice for that to reappear as its possible to sometimes miss click and ruin a face.

also along the lines of other peoples comments, more long hair styles would be nice (like the one I currently have would be nice) different glasses, accessories (what happened to the random Gallente plastic things?)facial tattoos, metal plating, etcetera.

Azureite
Amarr
Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.01.16 03:34:00 - [873]
 

For Amarr females the eyes look way too small in the final portrait. I make the eyes as large as possible in the creator, but no matter what in the final portrait it looks like the character is suffering some sort of allergic reaction, puffing up their face around the eyes. Honesty, it looks ridiculous no matter how I modify it.

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.01.16 03:51:00 - [874]
 

There's so many things missing that I have the feeling it should be delayed a bit. It just doesn't seem ready for launch. More clothing, accessories, scars, tatoos and hair are a must to make it a success. Please don't ruin the amazing work of dozens of programmers and artists by releasing an unfinished product!

PLEX Transporter
Posted - 2011.01.16 07:31:00 - [875]
 

Originally by: Don Pellegrino
There's so many things missing that I have the feeling it should be delayed a bit. It just doesn't seem ready for launch. More clothing, accessories, scars, tatoos and hair are a must to make it a success. Please don't ruin the amazing work of dozens of programmers and artists by releasing an unfinished product!


we will be able to remake our chars when they implant tattoos :)

Indahmawar Fazmarai
Posted - 2011.01.16 10:08:00 - [876]
 

Yay, we lost the undo bar, but now I notice the eyelashes use to be visible more often (they used to be visible only when blinking, which was weird).

Anyway, I noticed something else: now, each time we choose to create a character, the initial model is slightly randomized i.e. the first, non sculpted model, is not always the same. Skin thone and lips are the easier things to notice, but also cheekbones move a bit around, eyebrows are different... so even without randomizing or sculpting, the initial model is never the exact same.

Also have been tinkering with randomization and, although clothign choices use to be awful and don't match, the randomizer always manages to create a likely character. I cycled through 10 gallente males and each one had a personality and was very likely (some were hilarious, specially the funnier hairdos and hair colors).

All in all, the creator looks usable as it is, but is missing "excellence". Each version has got something broken and not final, cloth and shoes models are completely too few and of course there's all the people missing racial features. It can and may be launched as it is on Sisi, but will be a work in progress and not a finished product, not yet. Oh, and I hope there was a "reset" button for portrait maker, I am tired of wasting characters each time I accidentally move an eyebrow into an unrecoverable position (and eyes are too small, btw, they barely can be seen in avatar size (150x150). And I am seriously missing too the abbility to tilt the eyes (to rotate them). Eye tilt allows for very nice looking girls. And big, dark, tilted eyes are a trademark to so many ethnias around...

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.01.16 10:52:00 - [877]
 

Not long before patch day now so I'm going to make one last desperate plea to CCP. (incase what is on SISI is what we are getting)

DO NOT REMOVE BLACK HAIR FROM DETEIS! If we could have black hair before then please don't take it away from us now. Yeah it's something small but it will bug the hell out of me, I didn't make my last character with brown hair because I wanted it black.

Well that's my last plea time to sit back and wait for Tuesday. (supplies of beer and snacks ready for the hours of character building)

Pasmerktas
Posted - 2011.01.16 13:33:00 - [878]
 

I've whined a lot here, because mainly i am really concerned that this char creator is not finished yet. Please, add completely black or white hair, eyes size changer, height changer, head size changer, and long hair for gallente mes, damn now i will be forced to cut to look like brown hair italian.

CCP you've done an awesome job, but release it when it's finished, make more of everything and then release it, i am disappointed with lack of clothing, glasses, tattoos, accessories, and damn colors. Two days left until release, but...

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.01.16 15:07:00 - [879]
 

CCP, please delay the release of the character creator. I would rather have this game fleshed out than released half-finished. I don't know what you're going to release on Wednesday, but I sincerely hope it will be nothing, rather than what you've got at the moment. It's impressive so far as it goes but it really isn't anywhere near finished yet.

Halaster Blackcloak
SEA FRIENDS
Posted - 2011.01.16 15:27:00 - [880]
 

The new characters look soulless and boring. no personality at all, they just look like store mannequins. Imagine a whole room full of these new characters.
IMHO they need to be a lot more stylish, they seem to have fallen into uncanny valley

Zebs Clone
Minmatar
Zebra Corp
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.01.16 17:00:00 - [881]
 

still cant add a good amount of blue light to the pic stage, the current version has a little tint which dosnt show up in the pic.. i want to be blue god dam it

Cetida Chiya
Coma Vault Systems
Posted - 2011.01.16 17:18:00 - [882]
 

Attempted to recreate Cetida Chiya with some changes. Quite happy with the result, even though it's not that close to the original: New Cetida Chiya

Doktor Feeelgoood
Posted - 2011.01.16 18:28:00 - [883]
 

Yeah, good progress so far, but I'm concerned that the launch is in 2 days and this is all they've got. I understand that a lot of the features are a WIP, but you'd better hurry up and get the final version on sisi so we can play with it before it goes live. Otherwise, I really hope we'll be given the option to recreate our chracters at our discretion.

Corianna Barradin
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.16 19:53:00 - [884]
 

Black hair for Deteis?

Is it coming back or is this the end of Corianna? ugh
What a waste...

Rixiu
The Inuits
Posted - 2011.01.16 22:01:00 - [885]
 

Edited by: Rixiu on 16/01/2011 22:01:20
Jumped onto sisi today to try and make some final testing and I must say I'm quote dissappointed.


Last time around I managed to this to rixiu (Amarr Ni-Kunni Female): http://piclair.com/data/i5goe.jpg

This time around she will not go beyond looking like a disfigured milf. The cheek- and jawbones are to bulky, the mouth doesn't blend with the chin (wich also is to big and bulky) and cheek. On top of that the hairstyles have become boring and very bland :( I'm really disappointed because I liked what came out last time around!

This is what I manged to get, I gave up half way though because the odd sculpting limts are really annoying.

http://piclair.com/data/je4nf.jpg

Mirabi Tiane
Posted - 2011.01.16 22:13:00 - [886]
 

Edited by: Mirabi Tiane on 16/01/2011 22:23:19
This really needs to be delayed. Learn from Ryzom's premature release of their player-generated content tool, Ryzom Ring: if your innovative product is grossly unfinished no one's going to care about the innovation, they'll just be frustrated with the implementation.

Never heard of Ryzom Ring? Yeah. Well, it's like CoX's Mission Architect thing. It predates the Architect by at least a year and has more features, but almost no one uses it. The difference is that while Ryzom itself is a very obscure game, EVE has millions of eyes on it and you're going to rob tens of thousands of people of the character appearances they're very comfortable with and force them to use this grossly unfinished product to create very different appearances using options that are too limited.

Pull this out of the January 18th patch before your throbbing ego impregnates EVE with something unwanted.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.01.16 23:42:00 - [887]
 

Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Pull this out of the January 18th patch before your throbbing ego impregnates EVE with something unwanted.


So much ****ing this.

Listen to her, CCP. This is not ready.

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.01.16 23:54:00 - [888]
 

I would rather a delay until they have a lot more ready (if this is all they have so far)
Some feedback on if we are testing close to the full version or if they have a lot help back would be nice. It's been getting better and better content, sculpting and interface wise with each release but it also seems each release they change their mind about how they want a bloodline to look.

I honestly feel it needs more content for the face, screw the clothes we can't see most of that until Incarna any way. More hair, colours, accessories, facial hair, sculpting for the face would be nice though.

I'm going to be annoyed this is a "here make something" and then when Incarna comes out with more content they turn around and go "make it again"

I know it takes up time but it would be really nice if CCP could respond more in this thread giving us more information, to me the look of my character is a big part of EVE it defines who I am to people when they see it.

As I am posting again why not cry one more time BLACK HAIR ON DETEIS

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.01.17 01:11:00 - [889]
 

Originally by: Turelus
As I am posting again why not cry one more time BLACK HAIR ON DETEIS


At this point I'm honestly wondering whether we shouldn't phrase important things like black hair on Deteis or all clothes for all bloodlines as demands, rather than requests. I honestly don't know what's going to work best with CCP at the moment.

Corianna Barradin
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.17 02:24:00 - [890]
 

Edited by: Corianna Barradin on 17/01/2011 02:24:56
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris

At this point I'm honestly wondering whether we shouldn't phrase important things like black hair on Deteis or all clothes for all bloodlines as demands, rather than requests. I honestly don't know what's going to work best with CCP at the moment.


Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

There's only one way. We must spell our demands on the slope of Eyjafjallajökull!
Time is running out, so let's get started with cutting the letters!

Anne Arqui
Minmatar
Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
Posted - 2011.01.17 02:50:00 - [891]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Pull this out of the January 18th patch before your throbbing ego impregnates EVE with something unwanted.


So much ****ing this.

Listen to her, CCP. This is not ready.

/signed!!

Bubbled
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:43:00 - [892]
 

Originally by: Anne Arqui
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Pull this out of the January 18th patch before your throbbing ego impregnates EVE with something unwanted.


So much ****ing this.

Listen to her, CCP. This is not ready.

/signed!!

+1

It does looks great but still need a lot of work.
I still can't figure why the old models are missing from the new character creator. Those things should be the first things to implement/transfer.

Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:10:00 - [893]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Pull this out of the January 18th patch before your throbbing ego impregnates EVE with something unwanted.


This is not ready.


+1 to both of the above.

You're pretty close, please spend the extra time and clean it up (but without us needing to spend a second time creating an avatar on TQ). So long as the 'actual' Incursion stuff goes out, I don't think anyone's going to notice right now.

Tekei
Meatshield Bastards
The Bastards.
Posted - 2011.01.17 12:20:00 - [894]
 

Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Pull this out of the January 18th patch before your throbbing ego impregnates EVE with something unwanted.


/Signed

The editor needs more work.
Add the character specific stuff like Visors, Helmets, Implants, Tattoos etc before even considering releasing the editor.
We also need more options for sculpting, hair, facial hair, glasses, hair color etc etc.
As been said by others, please delay the release of the character editor and make sure it's finished first.

Kiko Tojima
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.17 13:32:00 - [895]
 

/not signed

If they wait until everyone is satisfied it will never come out. After creating five further characters without running into major bugs or show stoppers IMHO we have a char creator which is principally one of the best in the business. Moar options in clothes, haircuts and assecories can always be brought in afterwards.

Lord Wamphyri
Amarr
Starside Lost
Posted - 2011.01.17 13:37:00 - [896]
 

I'm currently downloading the latest SISI build before the creator goes live tomorrow, to have one last practice.

Now, while I don't hold out much hope now for having Red eyes in the final build, can we at least have an option for Heterochromia? I did see in the Incursion trailer that Sansha Kuvakei has different colour eyes, though on closer inspection one of them is an implant - and it's probably a bit late now to ask such things, lol

Other items for a final wishlist - better lighting options; I've seen other posters mention this too. I like having a blue tint as seen in my current portrait, the new creator at best only lets me light my face from one side. Ideally I'd love to be able to position the light source but I don't think this is gonna happen. Can the lighting be tweaked to give a more overall 'wash' of blue (or any of the other colours?)

Sculpting mode still needs an option to stop the character moving about - it's like trying to deal with someone with ADHD. Several times I've gone to sculpt something only to have the face move!

A bit more leeway in the sculpting restrictions would be nice too. Knowing that we're not going to get a chance to switch bloodlines can we at least have some broader sculpting options?

Also as others have said, piercings, tattoos etc would be nice too.

Other than that, really looking forward to the final product!

PLEX Transporter
Posted - 2011.01.17 16:14:00 - [897]
 

Edited by: PLEX Transporter on 17/01/2011 16:46:02
All this time i thought the new char creator was actually ok but I tried the old one just now and sow how much better the Vherokior clothing looks in the old one, there is no clothing in the new char creator that even looks alike the old clothes! I am very dissapointed and i hope you look at the old clothing and think aha this is how minmatar clothing looks like they don't have all theese new jackets we designed for them!

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.01.17 16:46:00 - [898]
 

Originally by: PLEX Transporter
CCP has said they will allow us to recreate tour chars as they will add more stuff in the char creator so you all that ain't happy just wait a month or two :)
..or 18 *runs*

Btw, that HOLLYWOOD joke up there is hilarious + the accompanying lines *still laughing*

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.01.17 17:58:00 - [899]
 

Originally by: Kiko Tojima
/not signed

If they wait until everyone is satisfied it will never come out. After creating five further characters without running into major bugs or show stoppers IMHO we have a char creator which is principally one of the best in the business. Moar options in clothes, haircuts and assecories can always be brought in afterwards.

Not releasing that content now means we either have to pay to redo the portraits or they are going to let us redo them when that content is released. In which case why make people do it all now and then do the same again six to twelve months later.

I'm starting to think this is another release now patch later thing.

Pasmerktas
Posted - 2011.01.17 18:00:00 - [900]
 

/signed

and for you
Originally by: Kiko Tojima
/not signed

If they wait until everyone is satisfied it will never come out. After creating five further characters without running into major bugs or show stoppers IMHO we have a char creator which is principally one of the best in the business. Moar options in clothes, haircuts and assecories can always be brought in afterwards.


I actually have to disagree, hair colors are too few, eye size is not changeable and height is not changeable, clothes, they are toooooooooo damn few, hairs and accessories same. it is not very specific wanting from me, but if they want diversion on character looks, they really need to add height/eye/head size changers, these are ones most differentiating details which keep us humans from being clones...


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