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Tcheburashka
Posted - 2010.12.17 05:27:00 - [1]
 

So, I was on my way to a quest drop-off location when my nooby ship was blasted by some hero from the Frontier Explorer's League. By the time I got another ship and came back, the wreck was robbed, and the quest deliverable was gone too. What am I supposed to do? Does it mean I failed the quest? It is still active in my Journal, but I do not have the item anymore. Advice?Confused

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2010.12.17 06:13:00 - [2]
 

1) "Say quest again, say quest again, i dare ya, i double dare ya motha****a, say quest one more goddamn time"

2) Try to petition it, if the GMs say that there is nothing they can do then maybe try an escalation of the petition, if u get the same thing then you have to fail it.

(I'm nice but Q-word bugs me lol)

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.17 06:30:00 - [3]
 

The feeling I get

Next time, don't aggro a player in your mission Razz

Lutz Major
Posted - 2010.12.17 06:54:00 - [4]
 

1) You could write him a mail, explaining your situation and that he please issue a contract.

2) Or usually (if it was not a COSMOS mission) missions respawn after downtime and you can do it again. Allthough I don't know if this is the case with drop-offs Confused

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
Posted - 2010.12.17 10:00:00 - [5]
 

...or try and find another one in contracts.

My Postman
Posted - 2010.12.17 11:13:00 - [6]
 

When the item is stolen:

If you CAN afford the sec. hit DONīT pay the thief. He HAS to try to ransom you, otherwise itīs against the EULA.

Look at contracts the item might be there. Be aware that these are also stolen from someones mission, so you have to decide if you wanīt to pay another thief.

Petitioning it, that itīs stolen, wonīt bring you anywhere, all you get from CCP might be "working as intended" or so.
Are you SURE the item was there? REALLY SURE? It might have been that the item has not spawned. Petitioning that the mission item has not spawned, makes a GM reset your mission and here you go again.

Hope this helps.

Fake edit: Donīt call missions "quests" and mission items "quest items" if you are not calling for flamesVery Happy.

Welcome to eve.

Merouk Baas
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.17 12:47:00 - [7]
 

If you cannot find the mission item on the Contracts system (or on the market, check that too), or you can't afford it, you can try a petition, but chances are slim.

You can also just fail the mission (it will automatically fail when the timer for it expires in your Journal) and move on with your (in-game) life. You can completely negate the effects of failing the mission by doing 1-2 missions after it; it's really a minor setback and not a big deal at all.

NOG Holder
Posted - 2010.12.17 13:56:00 - [8]
 

I can say that a GM will sometimes help you in a situation like this. I recently had a similar incident where someone came in and looted my mission item, as well as mulitple wrecks. I petitioned and asked the GM to simply reset the mission for me and I would be willing to clear it again. He did so. I didn't ask for the item, nor anything special other than the chance to redo the mission.

Tcheburashka
Posted - 2010.12.17 23:08:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Tcheburashka on 17/12/2010 23:10:43
Thank you for the suggestions. The item is "communication logs". I cannot find it on the market or in the Contracts, so I am going to fail the mission and catch up with the agent on other tasks. Btw, a good point that buying from Contracts potentially means someone is going to steal it from another player. It makes difference to me.
Sorry if I offended anyone's feelings using improper lexicon, as I am completely new to the game. Just my second week here.

Wanted to mention that I did not provoke the attacker in any way. It was in a low security system that I was passing by on autopilot (lesson learned). Suddenly there were two red icon ships, and before I could say whaa, I was floating in a capsule. According to the Combat log, that was when I lost the item:

Dropped items:
...
Communications Logs (Cargo)

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Vinya Az'riel
Posted - 2010.12.18 01:16:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: My Postman

If you CAN afford the sec. hit DONīT pay the thief. He HAS to try to ransom you, otherwise itīs against the EULA.


You really should read the EULA before you start quoting it. There is no reason whatsoever why they have to try to ransom anyone.

Obedient Slavegirl
Posted - 2010.12.18 03:33:00 - [11]
 

Quest items are not destroyed when u lose the ship u carried them in.
Chances are the "bad guy" still has your item.
Check his name (character sheet/ combat log/losses).
Send him a mail, first of all THANKING him - yes, thanking him - he didnt pod kill u,
second asking him politely to make u a private contract for that item,
at the station you were supposed to deliver it - and nowhere else.
Explain you are a new player and you dont have a lot of isk blah blah blah, so he should put a low price on that contract.
If and once the contract is assigned to you, read it carefully and then, if its ok, accept it. Fly to that sytem in a shuttle and complete the mission.

Last thing, NEVER EVER run courier missions in low sec, if the cargo cannot be carried in a fast aligning ship (shuttle, frigate).

Luminos
Durid is 4 Fite
Posted - 2010.12.18 04:16:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Obedient Slavegirl
Last thing, NEVER EVER run courier missions in go to low sec unless proceeding directly to your new nullsec alliance.
FTFY.

Serpents smile
Posted - 2010.12.18 10:38:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Tcheburashka
Wanted to mention that I did not provoke the attacker in any way. It was in a low security system that I was passing by on autopilot (lesson learned). Suddenly there were two red icon ships, and before I could say whaa, I was floating in a capsule. According to the Combat log, that was when I lost the item:



Being in low sec means you don't have to provoke anybody to get shot (in tiny tinny little pieces). Anyone can shoot you when ever it pleases them. If what shot you was not red flashing then you got shot by NPC's, which can be a bit rougher in low sec compared to high sec (it would explain why you still had your pod).
And you make it even easier for real players to shoot you since you where using autopilot, which warps you 15 Km away from the stargate, so they have plenty of time to lock you then shoot you then kill you.

Never autopilot.
Not even in high sec.

It is just asking to get your ship shot by someone who thinks that is fun and maybe that is, for the one doing the shooting. Besides that you travel way faster manual.

You can use autopilot with manual flight: set destination, check if the route does not go through low sec or 0.0, warp to the stargate hit autopilot, do something else, (like writing a reply in Q&A forum). SmileWhen autopilot jumps for you, either turn it off, jump to next gate and turn autopilot on or quickly hit the yellow stargate in the overview window then 'warp to' in the selected item window (last mechanic is one I use). Rinse and repeat.

Another tip from me would be to change your agent for one that does not send you into low sec, which will get you shot/killed. Find one that has no low/null sectors within (now guessing someone help) 6 jumps of the agent.

HF!

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2010.12.18 11:38:00 - [14]
 



1) Go into your map settings and under auto pilot set it to safer rather than faster.

2) When you get a mission that routes you through Lo Sec - it will say so in the mission briefing. Turn down that mission. You then have to wait 4 hours to get another mission from THAT agent. One of the things you might be doing in those 4 hours - is finding another agent that is farther away from Lo Sec.

3) If you are setting your own destination - look at the little colored dots in a vertical column down the left side of your screen where it will also say Destination and how many jumps. These little colored dots should all be green or yellow. If any of them is orange or red - you are being routed through Lo Sec. Re-Think your destination and route. One thing you can do - is to go into your map and tell it to avoid certain star systems. This may get you a safer route - though sometimes one vastly longer. Think real hard about whether or not you want to go there.

4) If you do decide you want to go down to Lo Sec - read some of the Lo Sec Survival Guides - carry a cloak - and go down there in a cheap ship carrying nothing you care about losing. If you get attacked - click on a warpable object and start spamming the warp button - don't wait until you blow up - as lag may have you dead before you see it.




Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.12.18 14:57:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Xercodo
1) "Say quest again, say quest again, i dare ya, i double dare ya motha****a, say quest one more goddamn time"


Welcome to Eve, OP.

Tcheburashka
Posted - 2010.12.19 22:29:00 - [16]
 

Thank you for great tips. I am definitely "warping to zero" now instead of autopilot. Also I am going to update the map settings to help me avoid trouble.
On a related note, a follow-up question: I joined militia when I started the game, do you think it causes others to attack me? Is it too early for me to be in militia? And what is the benefit of being in militia anyway?

Merouk Baas
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.19 22:46:00 - [17]
 

Of course it causes others to attack you, heh. Militia is a PVP war corp, you join it if you want to PVP. You appear as a nice red juicy target to a lot of people, everywhere. The benefit of being in the militia is you get to PVP a lot, and you get faction standings from it.

My Postman
Posted - 2010.12.20 12:10:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: My Postman on 20/12/2010 12:13:08
Originally by: Vinya Az'riel
Originally by: My Postman

If you CAN afford the sec. hit DONīT pay the thief. He HAS to try to ransom you, otherwise itīs against the EULA.


You really should read the EULA before you start quoting it. There is no reason whatsoever why they have to try to ransom anyone.


Looking at the EULA i canīt find it by myself, probably iīve read it in GM responses at forums, or else.

I defenatly remember that when "stealing" the mission icon (like the damsel for thousand times) the missionrunner must be given the possibility to finish his mission, and may it be by ransoming the icon.

Can anyone confirm that my mind still serves me well, and iīm not going nuts?

edit: misread the op. Thought that the mission item was stolen before he could get it into his cargohold. OP was blown up in lowsec with missionitem that dropped. Diffenrent story. Sorry.


 

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