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Dante Cowboy
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:06:00 - [1]
 

I think an incursus has an align time of 4.5 seconds with inertia stabilizers. What ships can scram and take it down if its going through lowsec or nullsec? I take it a BC or higher can't do it. Are there sentry guns on nullsec gates?

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:10:00 - [2]
 

another frigate?

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:11:00 - [3]
 

A interdictor, or cruiser will catch a ship with that align time, as will a heavy dictor with a sensor booster - dependant on player skill of course.

There are no sentry guns on a null sec gate.

C.


Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:11:00 - [4]
 

nullsec: lrn2bubble

Sophie Vherokior
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:14:00 - [5]
 

There are no sentry guns on null-sec gates.

Interdictors can launch interdiction spheres, which are bubbles that prevent anything inside the radius of about 20km from warping, so those are a good bet. They only work in null-sec though.

For low-sec you will need a ship with some sensor boosters that can also tank the gate guns. Heavy interdictors are good for this, especially if they get remotely sensor boosted by your gang-mates.

/Soph

Dante Cowboy
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:28:00 - [6]
 

Dictors aside, I guess I might be a good idea to use the mwd+cloak trick as well....

Commissar Kate
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:30:00 - [7]
 

A Lachesis with a couple sensor boosters would have a good chance of catching a frig, especially with its long point/scram range.

McRoll
Minmatar
Heatseekers
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:30:00 - [8]
 

In case you are solo and in lowsec, a Legion or Loki with tactical targeting subsystem and sebos can do it. Smartbombing BS are good as well if you have a scout a system ahead. I am experimenting with a sniper Mach right now but it is really difficult to get a lock on something faster than a plated/assault frig.

Dhaul
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:45:00 - [9]
 

Pretty much any ship with enough sebos and/or remote sebos can catch any non-cloaky ship before it can warp.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:49:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Dhaul
Pretty much any ship with enough sebos and/or remote sebos can catch any non-cloaky ship before it can warp.


Pretty much this.

Even a BC with sebos being remote seboed can insta lock frigs.

Jas Dor
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:51:00 - [11]
 

Although, I have seen faction frigs with istabbs that could get into warp before the cloak animation dropped. I'm assuming that the frig doesn't hit overview until the animation ends, but honestly even if it doesn't there's probably no way for a human to react fast enough to catch such frigs.

Sig Sour
Posted - 2010.12.15 21:59:00 - [12]
 

i-stabbed frig piloted by a high sp character, you are not catching, they are in warp before the server does its cycle.

poorly trained pilot without align bonus mods fit, easy to one volly in a remote sebo BS

Your Client
Posted - 2010.12.15 22:11:00 - [13]
 

Sensor boosters + Scan resolution scripts + Targeting system controllers + Remote sensor boosters support = VERY fast locker.

Frito11
Invicta.
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:22:00 - [14]
 

if you need to tank sentry guns (low-sec)

Assault frigate + gang mates remote sensor boosting you + logi keeping you from DIAF = 2000+ scan res

2nd best thing is a Lachesis with sensor boosters and scan res scrips = 1600 scan res + remote sensor boosters for ever more scan res.

if your in 0.0 dictor, hictor, large bubbles.

if your trying to catch ceptors/dramiels good luck a good pilot in one of those ships will rarely get caught at a gate but it can happen.

Orb Lati
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.16 00:37:00 - [15]
 

"What ship can catch a frigate at a gate"

So let me get this straight. You are asking us what ship might be good for Interception ? ....... hrmmmmm, well that is a difficult question. Rolling Eyes

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.16 01:30:00 - [16]
 

The Ares has a pretty obscene lock time.

Arkanor
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
Posted - 2010.12.16 03:13:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Arkanor on 16/12/2010 03:13:17
Originally by: Orb Lati
"What ship can catch a frigate at a gate"

So let me get this straight. You are asking us what ship might be good for Interception ? ....... hrmmmmm, well that is a difficult question. Rolling Eyes


How well does your interceptor tank gate guns? Rolling Eyes

Zaboth Garadath
Amarr
Ore Extraction Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.16 04:13:00 - [18]
 

HACs are nice...

When I used to camp the EC->Torr gate, always used a pulse zealot with 1/2 sebos.

Always got the km for any frig-sized ship Very Happy

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.12.16 04:30:00 - [19]
 

I think a Legion is pretty high up there and can tank the guns fine

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.16 04:35:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 16/12/2010 05:19:49
Sebo's on an Arty Cane will do it, you can add a scan rig with them.



Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.16 08:38:00 - [21]
 

Conclusion: use Sensor Boosters (and Signal Amplifier)
Smaller ships lock faster but frigates can't tank lowsec gate guns.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2010.12.16 08:44:00 - [22]
 

You want a scanres of around 1200 to catch it.

Dual SeBo HIC isnt enough, you still need remote SeBos if you use one.

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2010.12.16 08:57:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Jas Dor
Although, I have seen faction frigs with istabbs that could get into warp before the cloak animation dropped. I'm assuming that the frig doesn't hit overview until the animation ends, but honestly even if it doesn't there's probably no way for a human to react fast enough to catch such frigs.


EVE servers have internal 'tick' of 1 second. So stuff you do happens once per second and all actions are rounded up to nearest full second (other than guns/modules on autorepeat if action takes more than one 'volley'). For example if you have RoF of 6.1 seconds and can pop targets in 1 volley then in reality your RoF will be 7.0 seconds as it is rounded up.

I do not think you can make anything warp faster than 1 second. Well ok - perhaps pod or shuttle with proper gang bonuses. If it takes more than 1 second for thing to warp it can be nailed (in theory) by having sensor boosted tackling interceptor that has point running 'hot' and has inhumanly fast reflexes(or who is bot). For example Raptor with 2 sensor boosters and 3x Signal Amps will get scan resolution of ~3300 resulting in locking speed of 0.8 seconds on a pod. Less for anything else.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.16 09:20:00 - [24]
 

Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.


McRoll
Minmatar
Heatseekers
Posted - 2010.12.16 17:59:00 - [25]
 

[Legion, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Warp Disruptor II
Large Capacitor Battery II
10MN Afterburner II

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

try something like this if you are not afraid to invest some money. has 1257 scan res and can permatank sentries. you can play around with the fitting to get some more scan res out of it, by replacing one targeting system sub for example. i wouldnt recommend it however becaue even 1200 scan res is often not enough for the faster frigs.

otherwise its a nice ship, i flew a simmilar legion and got quite some kills with it before i lost it to 3 vagas and gateguns. i had 3 targeting system subs there though so couldnt hold on for a couple of seconds longer to deagress- this one is a bit tankier so you should be able to deagress in time if **** hits the fan.

Devil tiger
Posted - 2010.12.16 22:34:00 - [26]
 

A fleet with smarts works wonders as well...


 

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