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Lord Matrix
Flying Banana Squad
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:37:00 - [31]
 

[16:33:48] Master Corruptor > Unallocated skill points: 13,057,415

Could someone look into this? Did some really get too many unallocated SPs?

Zora
Gallente
Vector Industries
DONT PANIC.
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:40:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Clolo
So what is the new theoretical sp/hr max you can get? Prior to this update I was getting 2739 and didn't have max learning skills but now I'm only training at 2700/hr.


It's 2700/h.
Which sucks for me, I had 2772 before. Capital Ships V went from taking 41 days to 43 days... oh well.

Hesperius
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:41:00 - [33]
 

I also did not get the codebreaker.

KaarBaak
Minmatar
Seatec Astronomy
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:45:00 - [34]
 

This was a non-rushed, take_your_time_and_get_it_right-delayed patch, right?

Woohoo for quality > quantity. Good job CSM for getting CCP to fix their patches/expansions.

Victory,

KB

Clolo
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:48:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Clolo on 15/12/2010 16:48:16
Originally by: Zora
Originally by: Clolo
So what is the new theoretical sp/hr max you can get? Prior to this update I was getting 2739 and didn't have max learning skills but now I'm only training at 2700/hr.


It's 2700/h.
Which sucks for me, I had 2772 before. Capital Ships V went from taking 41 days to 43 days... oh well.


Oh that's lame. CCP should give us a free 1m SP to make up for the loss Razz

Radianze
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:48:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Radianze on 15/12/2010 16:55:33
Dear CCP!

I would like to point out that, if i wouldnt be gay, i would love the special feature u put into the new patch
However can i plz get my Eye fixed and maybe my cloths back on (cloths are optional tho)

Proof:
Nakid char

ty

Smuggo Smuggins
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:49:00 - [37]
 

Not managed to get in game but is Eve Gate working properly with this?

It was my understanding that, since I wasn't maxed on learning skills, my overall training time would be faster, yet on Eve Gate it's added about 4 hours to my queue compared to this morning.

radix29
Unforeseen Consequences.
THE UNTHINKABLES
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:49:00 - [38]
 

get:
- 1 echelon

didnt get:
- no codebreaker
- no remap

Deperem Mac
Amarr
Amarr Space Purification
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:50:00 - [39]
 

I see I'm not the only one with remap issues. Not only did I not get a free remap, but I had two available for this character before the patch, and now one has gone missing. Crying or Very sad But if they do give out one later, I'll be satisfied.

Hesperius
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:54:00 - [40]
 

Were we supposed to get a remap?

Windows ME
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.12.15 16:57:00 - [41]
 

Anyone else noticed a graphics improvement? In terms of texture apperances, skybox (more stars now?), and the nebula itself seem to have redone. Perhaps a dev can confirm this?

Vicious Cell
Amarr
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:00:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: CCP Adida

Important update: We intended to give every character a free neural remap as part of the Incursion 1.0.1 release. We have been made aware that not every character has received a free remap and we will aim to fix this during downtime on Thursday, December 16. We thank you for your patience.



cheers!

\o/

*gives eternal love to CCP <3 <3 <3*

REiiGN15
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:02:00 - [43]
 

Just wanted to say thanks CCP. I'm a new player(one month old) and this has made my day.

1) What I was training had more hours to go....is now finished. THANKS.
2) +1 Neural Remap, alsright!!!
3) Thanks for forewarning us about getting rid of learning skills. Didn't really train them up much(lvl 3 or 4 in some).
4) Knowing that the training times get cut in half(almost) is friggin' priceless.
5) THANKS for the gift.
6) +1 to a smooth patch. At least on my perspective.

Didn't know how all this would go down, but I'm loving it so far. Didn't have a million skill points to redistribute but no worries since I never spent the time on them.

0oO0oOoOo0o
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:06:00 - [44]
 

Hi, will the free remap reset the 1 year timer ? In other words: if i have 7 months until the next remap and use the free remap, will that still be 7 months to the next or will it reset and become 12 months to the next ?
Plz answer, need to know before spending the free points Wink

Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Not Found.
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:13:00 - [45]
 

I don't understand this patch.

One character I have is training Jump Freighter V, and gain 4 days of training with only the attributes boost, a good thing.

But I have a new character created 10 days ago, who is training Caldari Cruiser V... And he LOST 8 days of training (12 days > 20 days). I reduced it to 17 with the skill points but still, something is wrong.

I know that the 1.6M boost would disappear, but as I understand the blog, I would expect to get nearly the same remaining time for anything, not one week more longer.

Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:20:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Zenst on 15/12/2010 17:26:28
I had 3 days 8 hours left to complete Amarr Battleship L5, it now informs me it will take 3 days 19 hours, given thats a not too insermoutable difference which equates to about a day a week.
or perhaps the veiwpoint that thats 52 days in a year or around 7.5 weeks.

So in effect if I trained the skills now I'm loosing out nearly 2 months a year now compared to before, thats a hell of a difference there sonny to not be mentioning. Another way to look at this is would be thats a GTC a year extra or a increase in my subscription to the tune of ((100/subscribtion per month) * (price of GTC /12))% dressed up as an xmass presant. That said I apprecieate last xmas the iclandic goverment gave its people a even larger presant in the the same vain on there tax's due to some bank so my be some form of local custom that pertains to xmass presants which looses something somewhat in the translation.
If this is an idea of a Xmas presant then can we stick with the funny coloured shuttles in future.

Seems the remap been noted already so I should be +1 remap tomorrow, right - as already had one inhand!

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:22:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Sky Marshal
But I have a new character created 10 days ago, who is training Caldari Cruiser V... And he LOST 8 days of training (12 days > 20 days). I reduced it to 17 with the skill points but still, something is wrong.

I know that the 1.6M boost would disappear, but as I understand the blog, I would expect to get nearly the same remaining time for anything, not one week more longer.
You would expect to have the same training time assuming you had the same attributes before the patch as you did after. This is not the case for your new character: the new player bonus effectively doubled your attribute values; the addition of 12 attribute points most likely did not have that effect.

Allaera
Caldari
Avatar Dynasty
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:23:00 - [48]
 

To everyone who has received an Echelon Frigate but no codebreaker.....

I also had this issue with my 4 accounts. One received the codebreaker whereas the other three didn't.

As it turned out I had to relog in to one of these accounts and, lo, there was a "redeem items" button again.

On clicking the button I was pleasently surprised to see the codebreaker patiently waiting to be redeemed. Very Happy

Give it a try, hopefully it will work for you

TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:31:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: KaarBaak
This was a non-rushed, take_your_time_and_get_it_right-delayed patch, right?

Woohoo for quality > quantity. Good job CSM for getting CCP to fix their patches/expansions.

We can only repeat the message till it sticks, don't blame us for CCP ****ups Wink

As it happens we are in Iceland right now and have a double session with QA on Friday. This will be dealt with YARRRR!!

Duno666
Caldari
Honorem Ad Infinitum
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:34:00 - [50]
 

A couple of other people have noted above, but some of us are actually training slower. Granted, 32 or 72 points per hour may not seem like a lot, but over a week, 72 pts/hr less means 12,096 sp less. I would think that someone at CCP would have noticed this and thought to give out 13 points ( or even the proper ~12.35 whatever points ) to every attribute.

One viewpoint could be that while helping new players, this hinders older players. A second one ( and more positively ) is that it is closing the gap between the new players and old players by only making implants a factor in training speed ( and remaps, of course ). On the gripping hand, however, it is still actively impairing everyone who planned far enough ahead to train up learning skills first.

This is absolutely unacceptable. I demand that we get our .35 whatever points to every attribute. My internet spaceships is serious business!

Humorously good try CCP, but you'll probably catch a bit of hell for that. I think it's just fine, but the small drop in SP/hr just made all of my skills take longer to train. Thanks for that.

Saul Caris
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:34:00 - [51]
 

Since my earlier post, I received a reply to my petition and had my missing Echelon made available. Thanks CCP for a quick turnaround, very impressed!

Gner Dechast
Flashman Services
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:43:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Gner Dechast on 15/12/2010 18:05:46
Originally by: TeaDaze
Originally by: KaarBaak
This was a non-rushed, take_your_time_and_get_it_right-delayed patch, right?

Woohoo for quality > quantity. Good job CSM for getting CCP to fix their patches/expansions.

We can only repeat the message till it sticks, don't blame us for CCP ****ups Wink

As it happens we are in Iceland right now and have a double session with QA on Friday. This will be dealt with YARRRR!!


Quite frankly, as a recent returnee, I don't find this all that bad, compared to the past patches. (infact, I'd been unnerved if things would have gone smoothly)

Only thing I AM concerned about is this pig headed idea of dumping these things on us before holidays. Why not do this well before or after, instead when everyone is idly sitting home and looking things to do (or simply just playing online). ...well, who knows, they might pull the wrinkles out nowadays before long. But it sure wasn't like that before.

Every christmas patch I've experiences was a debacle and made things miserable in varying degree, and I find it strange that this isn't brought up more.

Other than that, I don't mind bumpy patches anymore... Just the timing.

P.S.
Hoping my characters, their attributes and remaps will make sense again later this week. Wink

Ler Rhan
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:51:00 - [53]
 

I also did not get a remap on my main(this character). Says its available 2011.02.05. My alt account all seemed to get their remaps correctly. My oldest character who has never remapped shows having 3 available. Then my other character on this account, which is newer than my main, also has 3 available.

I have a couple of questions -

For the character that I have 3 available, will I still have 3 after any hotfixes tomorrow?

For my characters that got it correctly, if I spend my only remap today, when you roll out fixes tomorrow, will she get an extra remap? Or will you be giving each character +1 remaps again and I don't have to worry?

Also I am assuming that giving the remap early means I won't get one on 2011.02.05 and so if I decide to remap then it will need to be attributes that I want for a year.

JitaMarket916
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:55:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: JitaMarket916 on 15/12/2010 17:57:19
Damn people this is not an issue thread, only feedback!!

CCP, here is my FEEDBACK, thank you for the Remap!

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:16:00 - [55]
 

PC platform - OS Vista32

Autopatch - ok

Issues running eve.exe -none

IG- both account received theyre full respective Sp

Remap:
-main char OK -however next remap available 1 year from now, is intended?
Alt char OK -kept his second remap available

Gifts: Both characters ok

Thank you



trjcquee
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:22:00 - [56]
 

+1 to CCP for withholding remaps and Echelons from those who don't deserve them. Very Happy

Arwir
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:29:00 - [57]
 

I HAVE NEW PROBLEM i know that after update my stats went up two times as they were so why my training time is still the same ? i trier everything from deleting skills from quede to reloging but nothing worked so i'm a little confiused and i don't know what to do.

hypno toad
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:35:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: trjcquee
+1 to CCP for withholding remaps and Echelons from those who don't deserve them. Very Happy



Santa works on a naughty/nice distribution system. Maybee CCP looked at sec status and applied his system!!

KaarBaak
Minmatar
Seatec Astronomy
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:44:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: KaarBaak
This was a non-rushed, take_your_time_and_get_it_right-delayed patch, right?

Woohoo for quality > quantity. Good job CSM for getting CCP to fix their patches/expansions.

Victory,

KB



In the interest of fairness, I give kudos for a problem-free Mac client update (for me, anyway).

And ++ for AA support in Mac...my eyes thank you.

KB


War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:45:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Gner Dechast


Only thing I AM concerned about is this pig headed idea of dumping these things on us before holidays. Why not do this well before or after, instead when everyone is idly sitting home and looking things to do (or simply just playing online). ...well, who knows, they might pull the wrinkles out nowadays before long. But it sure wasn't like that before.

Every christmas patch I've experiences was a debacle and made things miserable in varying degree, and I find it strange that this isn't brought up more.

Other than that, I don't mind bumpy patches anymore... Just the timing.

P.S.



Seriously? December 15th is too close to Christmas for you to put out an expansion? It must be nice to be idly sitting around 10 days+ before the holiday.

I think the timing is great myself. There's the rest of this week to fix any minor issues that crop up after downtimes before the other 95% of the world goes on break for the holidays.


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