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Vuokko Liara
Posted - 2010.12.12 10:08:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Vuokko Liara on 12/12/2010 10:09:03
Edited by: Vuokko Liara on 12/12/2010 10:08:49
The torp raven seems to do better dps but its tank is reduced because of it. Whereas the AC Mael has a better tank but reduced dps due to falloff and less overall dps compared to torps.

Basically I want to make a skill plan to completely destroy angel havens and sanctums (if possible).

It is very likely I will have others with me but I would rather plan on the extra help being a pleasant surprise of extra dps than spending most of my time trying to get a fleet together.

Also if you can think of any better T1 BS feel free to advise I am always open to other options.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Widemouth Deepthroat
Posted - 2010.12.12 15:13:00 - [2]
 

I'd go with maelstrom/mach personally. Can tank both haven and sanctum (I know from personal experience and it is just with T2 fit). Torp raven I'd guess can only do haven since you can't tank it much after squeeze on the siege launchers. You would have to switch to cruise missiles and snipe for sanctums in a raven.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.12.12 15:27:00 - [3]
 

Mael. Most of the Angel BS have an irritating habit of hanging at 35-40Km.

Enduros
Desard's Nation
Cha0s Theory
Posted - 2010.12.12 20:08:00 - [4]
 

Rats in haven come close, and shoot mostly explosive and kinetic. Mael works great in those. Just fit an AB and you can kite them.

Sanctums are a different story. The BS fire heavy EM and thermal too. And they hang out at 40km. You can do sanctums, but you will need to warp out more then once.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.12.12 23:34:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Enduros
Sanctums are a different story. The BS fire heavy EM and thermal too. And they hang out at 40km. You can do sanctums, but you will need to warp out more then once.


Can just fit arties to reach those and actually use the NPCs falloff at their disadvantage instead.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.12.13 00:51:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Enduros
Sanctums are a different story. The BS fire heavy EM and thermal too. And they hang out at 40km. You can do sanctums, but you will need to warp out more then once.


Can just fit arties to reach those and actually use the NPCs falloff at their disadvantage instead.


Easier and better to AB into close range, and gain the tanking benefit of being at speed.

TraderAlt117
Posted - 2010.12.13 01:08:00 - [7]
 

I used to rat havens in angel space using an AC maelstrom - sticking to the haven with the gate. On warp in, head to and sit next to the gate. They should spawn within 3km, 5 at most. Malakims and thrones stick to within 10k so fit a web and go to town making the isk, the vast majority of waves setting drones on the adds and auto's on the BS at the same time, i'd be waiting for the drones to finish off frigs that i couldn't track. Sanctums are trickier due to seraphims shooting your EM hole and cherubims shooting thermal, as well as everything dealing its normal exp/kin - means you have to properly omni tank rather than 1 invuln and 2 resists. Plus they are both the rats that will orbit at 35-40km+, which means artys not auto's and thus less dps. Also, are you using EFT damage from the torp raven there? A lot of the people in corp that used torp ravens had problems applying it without webbing due to the angel BS speed (think it's 160-170 non MWD off the top of my head, can't remember exactly though).

TL;DR
AC Mael in gate havens, get the close spawns and the close orbits and rock out the iskies ugh

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.12.13 01:18:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: TraderAlt117
A lot of the people in corp that used torp ravens had problems applying it without webbing due to the angel BS speed


Truth.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.12.13 09:33:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Enduros
Sanctums are a different story. The BS fire heavy EM and thermal too. And they hang out at 40km. You can do sanctums, but you will need to warp out more then once.


Can just fit arties to reach those and actually use the NPCs falloff at their disadvantage instead.


Easier and better to AB into close range, and gain the tanking benefit of being at speed.


It's nice if you have the good mods, good skills to save time else you end up ABing all the time and depleting cap.

IE in the first month I'd find much easier to fit arties on a cheap-o Mael with Meta 3-4 AB and shield, in case of losing it, it was no drama. ACs would also tend to miss when used with AB (higher transversal).

Once gained confidence, faction fit, the skills etc. it's a matter of AB the Mael at > 400 m/s into the NPCs and press the kill button.

I'd not rush into the second scenario without firm confidence in the first, though.


 

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