Posted - 2010.12.12 06:05:00 - [3]

 

Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:34:30
Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:34:21
Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:06:33
lol noob new depletion rates=gg huge price rush and skyrocket on everything pi.Also less then 100k mech parts on the market at 14k and less then 100k for 24k.I'll be looking at 460% margin if the new price is 40k of which im quite positive soon.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2010/ECU.jpg

If you don't understand the screenshot then not my prob.

Posted - 2010.12.12 06:50:00 - [5]

 

Edited by: Tasko Pal on 12/12/2010 06:53:01

Originally by: VURDAH

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What do you mean about '2 days till fixed' ? Any proof ?

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I made the same mistake in another thread. Sounds like it's on the plate for the January patch, but definitely not showing up on December 14.

Added: Not that I'm not grateful for the heads up on coolant (which I produce a little of and have been stockpiling), but I'm about ready to talk about anything else other than PI right now. Trit, garbage, implants, whatever. Creating a bunch of manipulation threads dilutes the actual knowledge.

Posted - 2010.12.12 12:03:00 - [7]

 

Originally by: Caldariftw123

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Originally by: Grozen

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Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:34:30
Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:34:21
Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:06:33
lol noob new depletion rates=gg huge price rush and skyrocket on everything pi.Also less then 100k mech parts on the market at 14k and less then 100k for 24k.I'll be looking at 460% margin if the new price is 40k of which im quite positive soon.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2010/ECU.jpg

If you don't understand the screenshot then not my prob.

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It's those parts of the manipulation threads that make me laugh a bit. The price is going to go from 13K to 40K SOON? Along with Robotics being at 100K in a week and I'm sure Planetary Vehicles will 'stabilise at 70K by Christmas' etc. etc. the ridiculous over estimation of prices makes me laugh. Even if the math behind them is true (AKA cost of components = X price for final product) EVE has shown time and time and time and TIMEEEEE again that thousands of people will produce for undercost, "minerals I mine are free" etc. etc. and as soon as some item becomes profitable you can bet your ass 5000 alt accounts will switch to making it. Mechanical parts, 600,000 units sat at 13879.85 not 7hours after Grozen's post with 200K units showing up to 24K.

Jump on PI bandwagons if you want but a) the bandwagon begun BEFORE Tyrannis, and there are MILLIONS of units at pre-PI prices waiting in hangars for a good price and b) It's far too easy to run a dozen planets producing 'free goods' for massive price rises to occur in a short time (barring manipulations that last a day or 2 at most)

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You're right bout the 600k order yea im not nostradamos i dont know when some noob will take the stuff of his hangar and trow it on the market.But fact is that the amount bought daily is far bigger then the amount produced otherwise why would the price be rising?

I don't think people can manipulate 4.5m daily volume that easy.I'm not saying price is going to go to 40k in 2-3days but its realistic to think it won't be much longer then 2-3months, just because your theory about people producing doesn't hold up.

Most people ignore pi as an income source and it will be so until the cost of slavery pi demands is equal to the rewards offered aka 40-60k p/u.

Posted - 2010.12.12 12:20:00 - [9]

 

Originally by: Carniflex

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As already pointed out its about month to PI overhaul as it is not part of Tuesday patch. Unfortunately.

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One of the main reasons we may see spike before that.

Posted - 2010.12.12 13:39:00 - [11]

 

Edited by: Caldariftw123 on 12/12/2010 13:41:45

Originally by: Grozen

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Originally by: Caldariftw123

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Originally by: Grozen

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Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:34:30
Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:34:21
Edited by: Grozen on 12/12/2010 06:06:33
lol noob new depletion rates=gg huge price rush and skyrocket on everything pi.Also less then 100k mech parts on the market at 14k and less then 100k for 24k.I'll be looking at 460% margin if the new price is 40k of which im quite positive soon.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2010/ECU.jpg

If you don't understand the screenshot then not my prob.

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It's those parts of the manipulation threads that make me laugh a bit. The price is going to go from 13K to 40K SOON? Along with Robotics being at 100K in a week and I'm sure Planetary Vehicles will 'stabilise at 70K by Christmas' etc. etc. the ridiculous over estimation of prices makes me laugh. Even if the math behind them is true (AKA cost of components = X price for final product) EVE has shown time and time and time and TIMEEEEE again that thousands of people will produce for undercost, "minerals I mine are free" etc. etc. and as soon as some item becomes profitable you can bet your ass 5000 alt accounts will switch to making it. Mechanical parts, 600,000 units sat at 13879.85 not 7hours after Grozen's post with 200K units showing up to 24K.

Jump on PI bandwagons if you want but a) the bandwagon begun BEFORE Tyrannis, and there are MILLIONS of units at pre-PI prices waiting in hangars for a good price and b) It's far too easy to run a dozen planets producing 'free goods' for massive price rises to occur in a short time (barring manipulations that last a day or 2 at most)

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You're right bout the 600k order yea im not nostradamos i dont know when some noob will take the stuff of his hangar and trow it on the market.But fact is that the amount bought daily is far bigger then the amount produced otherwise why would the price be rising?

I don't think people can manipulate 4.5m daily volume that easy.I'm not saying price is going to go to 40k in 2-3days but its realistic to think it won't be much longer then 2-3months, just because your theory about people producing doesn't hold up.

Most people ignore pi as an income source and it will be so until the cost of slavery pi demands is equal to the rewards offered aka 40-60k p/u.

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Oh I'm not saying prices wont rise, the price will rise with a lot of PI goods no doubt, it was the 'soon' comment .. you clarified saying 2-3 months which is more realistic, whether 40K is or not I'd need to do the math on, I assume you have so it may be realistic also, it was the 'soon' comment though, especially as in a monthish there's a PI overhaul coming, the effects of which are unknown. There are a lot of people even now running a few alts with a few planets each or more, with a less clickyfest coming a lot more people might get involved, especially if CCP market it well .. I'd not bet the house on a 40K price at the moment tbh.

Noone saw that 600K unit hitting the shelves for example, you said yourself you are not nostrodamus .. though that's hardly a bad thing, he was full of **** .. could well be another 2million units in that one guys hangar alone though! The more expensive some of this stuff gets the less it's demand will be for some of these items.

I'm not so much saying you are blatantly wrong, it's more the general feeling that PI will become astronomically more expensive than it is currently, just wont hold true for a lot of items.

Posted - 2010.12.13 08:27:00 - [13]

 

Originally by: VURDAH

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I just need to know. How much people have more than 10 Billions.
More than 1%? Where i can find real statistics ?

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One of the economic devblogs had this data. It was a while ago. More than year if not two ago. Dunno if more recent ones have had this data as well presented. Anyway the old econ devblog would give you something to base the educated guess on.

Posted - 2010.12.13 11:17:00 - [15]

 

Originally by: VURDAH

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Just like me:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2e2gz90.png

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What market bot do you use... lol...

Posted - 2010.12.14 01:11:00 - [17]