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Tom Gerard
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.12.10 17:37:00 - [1]
 

How many people think is fair that 95% of eve players stay in highsec but the majority of systems are worthless low and null systems.

CONCORD should take over 95% of available systems to meet today's expectations.

What are your thoughts?

Should the majority suffer due to the whims of a minority of players?

Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.12.10 17:39:00 - [2]
 

you do know, most of Null sec is bloody more safe then hi sec?
you are more likely to be ganked in hi sec then low, only couple of low sec systems are camped and those systems are those that are next to hi sec anyway or systems that are next to major alliance hubs.


Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.12.10 17:40:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Tom Gerard
Should the majority suffer due to the whims of a minority of players?
Yes. Their choice, their loss.

Gner Dechast
Flashman Services
Posted - 2010.12.10 17:47:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Tom Gerard
How many people think is fair that 95% of eve players stay in highsec but the majority of systems are worthless low and null systems.

CONCORD should take over 95% of available systems to meet today's expectations.

What are your thoughts?

Should the majority suffer due to the whims of a minority of players?


Server should randomly invert security statuses. Anywhere between 1 minute to 7 days. All problems solved! You may pay me for my grandious idea whenever you've accumulated enough ISK.

Jason1138
Posted - 2010.12.10 17:48:00 - [5]
 

i think that low should have no concord but should have faction police on the gates, and that faction police should be somewhat tankable, like how gate guns are now but a little tougher

essentially the way it is now there is no real difference between low and null and i'd like to see that change. ban caps from low or add baby concord or something to make it more of a middle area between high and null

SmallGang Bandit
Posted - 2010.12.10 17:58:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Jason1138
essentially the way it is now there is no real difference between low and null and i'd like to see that change. ban caps from low or add baby concord or something to make it more of a middle area between high and null

Bombs (nullsec only)
Bubbles (nullsec only)
Gate Guns (empire only)
Station Guns (empire only)
GCC (empire only)
Sec Status hit for attacking players (empire only)

Yep - Null and losec are identical.

But, I think it would make sense to have some sort of faction patrol in losec - even if not in all systems all the time...

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:07:00 - [7]
 

ok, implement concord in nullsec on a 1 month timer

you kill someone, concord will be right there in a month to blow you up

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:24:00 - [8]
 

for lowsex only, I like the idea of faction police patrolling for loiters

if 5 people are camping a gate, drop 20 scramming / webbing / target painting / disrupting rat on them (4 per person, cloaked or otherwise)

for 0.0 up the numbers and make the rats sansha looking for fresh meat. get podded and lose a clone ( unless you only have one clone in which case your life is already ducky)

considering gate travel is how most get around, rats using gates shouldn't be to terrible a thing to add


Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:26:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Jason1138

essentially the way it is now there is no real difference between low and null


Probably the most ignorant thing on this forum today, which is quite a feat.

LittleTerror
Day Unhappy Security Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:27:00 - [10]
 

No no no no no no ****ing no Evil or Very Mad

Othran
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:31:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Tom Gerard
Should the majority suffer due to the whims of a minority of players?


Depends if you're one of the majority Evil or Very Mad

0/10

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:32:00 - [12]
 

No.

Amda Tori
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:41:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Amda Tori on 10/12/2010 18:41:49
Originally by: Bodrul
you do know, most of Null sec is bloody more safe then hi sec?



Eve Security System - NSFW

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:52:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Amda Tori
Edited by: Amda Tori on 10/12/2010 18:41:49
Originally by: Bodrul
you do know, most of Null sec is bloody more safe then hi sec?



Eve Security System - NSFW

at least the mob keeps away the stupid crime

Jason1138
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:56:00 - [15]
 

Bombs (nullsec only)
Bubbles (nullsec only)
Gate Guns (empire only)
Station Guns (empire only)
GCC (empire only)
Sec Status hit for attacking players (empire only)

Yep - Null and losec are identical.



i never said they were identical, just that there's not enough difference between the two. and there's not

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.10 18:57:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jason1138
Bombs (nullsec only)
Bubbles (nullsec only)
Gate Guns (empire only)
Station Guns (empire only)
GCC (empire only)
Sec Status hit for attacking players (empire only)

Yep - Null and losec are identical.



i never said they were identical, just that there's not enough difference between the two. and there's not

has never been to nul

Othran
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:07:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Killstealing
has never been to nul


You'd think so but no, he has.

He lost a Manticore in 8P9-BM and the pod ten minutes later in 3GXF-U.

He's obviously an expert now Rolling Eyes

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:17:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Killstealing on 10/12/2010 19:17:21
Originally by: Othran
Originally by: Killstealing
has never been to nul


You'd think so but no, he has.

He lost a Manticore in 8P9-BM and the pod ten minutes later in 3GXF-U.

He's obviously an expert now Rolling Eyes

in null you can run plexes and salvage them
in lowsec you can do that but not around border systems
in hisec you get a million ninjas warping in on you, pvp fits suicide ganking you..

also he lost a pod lolo

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:19:00 - [19]
 

Everyone would be safer if hi sec disappeared... well if they are smart they will be safer.

JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:25:00 - [20]
 

I really hope the OP is trolling and/or joking.

If not,

WHO in their right mind, would (without first being heavily intoxicated) actually suggest that sending concord outside of Empire would be anything but one of the worst suggestions to ever grace these forums?

000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:33:00 - [21]
 

I dunno... I mean there is a lot of space not used... now changing it from 5 to 95 and vice versa is not the way to go, but i wouldn't mind a few more hi sec systems... mebbe in exchange split hi sec up in 4 parts with lo en null sec inbetween Twisted Evil

Amda Tori
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.10 21:50:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: 000Hunter000
I dunno... I mean there is a lot of space not used...

Alot of low sec systems are not used.
Not the same thing about null sec systems. All of them are populated.

masternerdguy
Gallente
Meerkat Maner
Posted - 2010.12.10 21:51:00 - [23]
 

-10/10 for trollage

Michelle Vega
Posted - 2010.12.10 21:53:00 - [24]
 

posting in a features and ideas thread....

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2010.12.10 21:57:00 - [25]
 

God ****ing no...

It must be a full moon out tonight or something. There is a ****storm of bad ideas coming out.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.12.10 22:04:00 - [26]
 

Nobody lives in low sec anyway, so sure sounds like a good idea to me!

-Liang

Jason1138
Posted - 2010.12.10 22:17:00 - [27]
 

yes, i got killed in null once on this toon, therefore nothing i say has merit *rolls eyes*


what do you not like about the idea of having faction cops on gates and/or stations in low? wouldn't that get more people to go to low? more mission runners and haulers? more gank targets? how would that not be good for everyone in the long run?

or do you want lowsec to stay a complete desert that's only used by FW and pirate corps?

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.10 22:20:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Jason1138
a complete desert that's only used by FW and pirate corps?

explain why pirates are in lowsec
once you understand that you will understand why you are shot down itt

posting in padawan thread

Pharos Pharos
Posted - 2010.12.10 23:27:00 - [29]
 

Make large faction police gatecamps appear in lowsec systems if there are gcced characters on gate grid for more than, say, two-three minutes. These gatecamps should not scramble, but deal high dps and not drop anything good loot wise. They will hang around for some time before returning to eat donuts. By hanging around, they to some degree prevent people from just sitting at near-gate safes. Gatecamping is still possible, but you'll want to save your gcc's for juicy targets and get out quickly.

In return, replace the existing lowsec cosmic anomalies with nullsec cosmic anomalies - since you can't upgrade a system, they can't be farmed, but will still be present if you travel around and provide some reason to actually be out in lowsec space besides wanting to shoot people.

If you want to go all out, duplicate all high-end booster sites as lowsec exploration sites and allow booster manufacturing in lowsec.

Skyler Snow
Posted - 2010.12.11 00:29:00 - [30]
 

I agree with the OP.
Concord should claim control over all the systems.

Then observing that the fastest intervention time (which happens in 1.0 systems) has become 2 minutes, Concord will realize they do not have sufficient numbers and should ask the faction navies to help.

The navies, facing this extra duty, in order to both fix the problem with rank numbers and help capsuleers with a problematic infancy, should then enroll negative standing pod pilots granting them both hisec access and a supply of navy ships, ammo and modules.


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