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Eric Garvin
Posted - 2010.12.10 13:18:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Eric Garvin on 10/12/2010 13:18:58
The reason PLEX prices are so high is because of macro miners. These macro using players buy hundreds or maybe thousands of PLEX and make the prices go sky high. Some of you players may not care about macro users but I bet you care about the high price of PLEX when you want to buy one.

Caeltrayian
Posted - 2010.12.10 13:29:00 - [2]
 

I doubt that's the only reason, I'm sure there are alts in there bumping up the prices as well. The prices will continue to go up as long as you have players spending ISK to get them. Want to help fight Macro users? stop buying plex, as i'm sure macro users are selling those to gain ISK as well as normal players. I could be wrong, but then i don't really care either way so...

Sturmwolke
Posted - 2010.12.10 13:39:00 - [3]
 

Hoarding plays a part, probably quite major if you're to interpret the last QEN.

A very simple solution is to limit PLEX ownership to x number of tokens per account (or even character if you want to be lenient). Doubt it'll implemented however as CCP's been fairly laissez-faire about the whole thing, in addition to having an interest in keeping it as high as feasible.

Tornan
Minmatar
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.12.10 13:39:00 - [4]
 

as isk becomes more abundenet and easier to get because of the macroes valuing it less they will just throw it around and buy what ever they want thereby creating inflation.

Its not just miners the drone regions are loaded down with macro ratters

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2010.12.10 13:44:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Kalle Demos on 10/12/2010 13:45:27
Plex prices are dropping, the prices went ******edly high WHEN microtransaction rumours ran wild, pretty much the day CCP said no to microtransactions the prices started to drop fast.

GTC was about 300 mil for 30 days, CCP change it so you could only get the 60 day ones.

Clearly botters control the price of plex & gtc, the price has always somewhat been in the same range :P

E- Guy from rawr, it isnt just drones, I am sure if you looked hard enough you will see nc do it too as well as sc

Clone 1
Posted - 2010.12.10 13:57:00 - [6]
 

I play this game only through plex and I can tell you, the higher the cost of the plex the better it is for eve-online and worse it is for the macros. It makes it harder for them to make real money.
The higher the isk return for plex, the more likely someone will sell a plex to get isk rather than use a isk seller.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.12.10 13:59:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Tornan
as isk becomes more abundenet and easier to get because of the macroes valuing it less they will just throw it around and buy what ever they want thereby creating inflation.

Its not just miners the drone regions are loaded down with macro ratters


All of 0.0 is infested with macros, your own space not excluded.

knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.10 14:08:00 - [8]
 

They are not just high because of that, they are high because its so damned easy to make ISK in EVE for those multiple account people and the sort of money wormholes kick out. Where else is a 1 billon ISK + ship standard for all ops for all players.

All I read about in the PVE parts of the game is how you can make XXXXXXXXXXXXX amount of ISK per hour AFK'ing.

Prices right now are what I'd consider semi-reasonable.

Caldari Citizen20090217
Posted - 2010.12.10 14:53:00 - [9]
 

RMT ISK accounts are a large part of it tho. Iirc PLEX prices dropped significantly after Unholy Rage removed all these accounts.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2010.12.10 15:02:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Eric Garvin

The reason PLEX prices are so high is because of macro miners. These macro using players buy hundreds or maybe thousands of PLEX and make the prices go sky high.


Reality check ... there are 2000 PLEX traded in Jita alone, daily!

Doesn't really matter if you throw in a few thousand additional PLEX per month for botters.

But what keeps the price high is that the people who buy from RMT guys (illegally) steal the real money from CCP. If they would buy a PLEX instead and sell it on the EVE-market for ISK (legally) we would have more PLEX available, more supply and thus lower prices.


Punish people who buy from RMT harder!

Wartech2
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:24:00 - [11]
 

CCP stop macro users!

Julian Assagne
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:32:00 - [12]
 

Cry moar, i for one Welcome these High Prices Cool (me selling plex to general whiners like you)

-Julian Assagne
CEO of EVELeaks

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.12.10 19:37:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Clone 1
I play this game only through plex and I can tell you, the higher the cost of the plex the better it is for eve-online and worse it is for the macros. It makes it harder for them to make real money.
The higher the isk return for plex, the more likely someone will sell a plex to get isk rather than use a isk seller.



in terms of percents, +/-100m (even 200m) in plex price hardly makes a difference to a 23/7 macro

Rex Garvin
Posted - 2010.12.11 06:32:00 - [14]
 

CCP stop macro users!!

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.12.11 06:35:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Clone 1
I play this game only through plex and I can tell you, the higher the cost of the plex the better it is for eve-online and worse it is for the macros. It makes it harder for them to make real money.
The higher the isk return for plex, the more likely someone will sell a plex to get isk rather than use a isk seller.

in terms of percents, +/-100m (even 200m) in plex price hardly makes a difference to a 23/7 macro

Read his post again. Emphasis added.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.11 06:42:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Clone 1
I play this game only through plex and I can tell you, the higher the cost of the plex the better it is for eve-online and worse it is for the macros. It makes it harder for them to make real money.
The higher the isk return for plex, the more likely someone will sell a plex to get isk rather than use a isk seller.

in terms of percents, +/-100m (even 200m) in plex price hardly makes a difference to a 23/7 macro

Read his post again. Emphasis added.
*resists making comment about plankton again so soon after the previous one*

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.11 06:45:00 - [17]
 

Not to sound too contrary, but personally I love PLEX prices being high. The higher, the better, even. I mean, a 60 day PLEX costs $35 dollars. The more ISK I can squeeze out of one, the better. Sorry, but there's not just the perspective of the ingame people buying a PLEX to get playtime. Some folks, like me, simply need a little extra cash, every now and then, and I don't always have time to grind.

Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2010.12.11 06:50:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Strrog on 11/12/2010 06:51:08
730 or so mill per GTC was haning arround a year or so even before i quit EVE, so why you panicked by current pricing?

Imo the only poeple it can hurt probably are the high sec users, as in null you can get a mod worth one plex or bot rat, or bot mine... Its actually funny that botting in EVE is easier then botting in D2LOD XD.

Actually you can farm close to 200 mill a day doing level 4s, so for plex you need to waste say whole weekend... but of course nobody likes the grind...It looks that its pretty easy to get plex as it is and I am surpised that with bot ratters and plex char x-fer its still sitting at this price range. /shrug


Christian Schneider
Posted - 2010.12.11 07:07:00 - [19]
 

Due to the massive use of bots (or by other means) RMT guys seem to be able to get a lot of ISK for very little effort currently. that causes the amount of ISK which you can buy for 15$ to be high. The ISK value of a Plex is ALWAYS slightly lower than the amount of ISK that you can buy for 15$ from those RMT guys. If the amount of ISK that you can buy for 15$ increases Plex ISK value increases as well.

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2010.12.11 09:28:00 - [20]
 

lol, I bet macros are the cause of 0.0 lag, too
... and it's all the tradebots that make Jita so laggy
... and Technetium is so expensive because bots inject too much ISK into the economy
... and T2 BPOs are unfair because the only way to get enough ISK to buy one is by botting

... and obviously Akita is the Queen of Botters because she knew that PLEX prices would rise.


Anyways... high PLEX price -> buying ISK via RMT less attractive (mind you, it will still be cheaper than PLEX but as always it's a risk to get banned vs cheaper price consideration).


Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2010.12.11 09:34:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Cyaxares II
lol, I bet macros are the cause of 0.0 lag, too
... and it's all the tradebots that make Jita so laggy
... and Technetium is so expensive because bots inject too much ISK into the economy
... and T2 BPOs are unfair because the only way to get enough ISK to buy one is by botting

... and obviously Akita is the Queen of Botters because she knew that PLEX prices would rise.


Anyways... high PLEX price -> buying ISK via RMT less attractive (mind you, it will still be cheaper than PLEX but as always it's a risk to get banned vs cheaper price consideration).





Ya you would figure the bots in trading hubs as Jita but nothing was done about it.... comon its not that difficult to figure out a bot with few hundred orders updates each god damn 5 minutes CCP?

high PLEX price -> buying ISK via RMT less attractive ; sorry you lost me there for a momentugh

Corcyrus Endymion
Caldari
Elder Tribes
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:03:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Strrog
Originally by: Cyaxares II
lol, I bet macros are the cause of 0.0 lag, too
... and it's all the tradebots that make Jita so laggy
... and Technetium is so expensive because bots inject too much ISK into the economy
... and T2 BPOs are unfair because the only way to get enough ISK to buy one is by botting

... and obviously Akita is the Queen of Botters because she knew that PLEX prices would rise.


Anyways... high PLEX price -> buying ISK via RMT less attractive (mind you, it will still be cheaper than PLEX but as always it's a risk to get banned vs cheaper price consideration).





Ya you would figure the bots in trading hubs as Jita but nothing was done about it.... comon its not that difficult to figure out a bot with few hundred orders updates each god damn 5 minutes CCP?

high PLEX price -> buying ISK via RMT less attractive ; sorry you lost me there for a momentugh


The high plex price means that you get more isk/per euro for buying plexes with real money and then selling them in game. This means that buying a plex becomes more attractive compared to buying via RMT.


Jita Alt666
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:36:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos

E- Guy from rawr, it isnt just drones, I am sure if you looked hard enough you will see nc do it too as well as sc


You imply drones are SC?
That alone is a reason to ignore everything you have ever written or said.

Your Client
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:37:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Your Client on 11/12/2010 10:41:39
what?

Clone 1
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:40:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Clone 1
I play this game only through plex and I can tell you, the higher the cost of the plex the better it is for eve-online and worse it is for the macros. It makes it harder for them to make real money.
The higher the isk return for plex, the more likely someone will sell a plex to get isk rather than use a isk seller.



in terms of percents, +/-100m (even 200m) in plex price hardly makes a difference to a 23/7 macro


Before GTC sales were introduced, 100mill isk was getting around $30, In 2006 100mil sold on ebay for approx $15, now today you can get approx 370mill for your legimitate plex/$15 (someone can correct me here if my plex/$ is incorrect) and that shows the trend. So today isk sellers are trying to sell 1bill isk for $25 or appox 600mill isk for $15, that is 12 times more isk than before gtcs were introduced. That is more than a few percent, that is sweet progress. An isk seller will have to mine 12 times longer, to get the same $ return than they would have before gtcs/plex.

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:40:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Cyaxares II on 11/12/2010 10:41:24
Originally by: Your Client
You are confused...

The following is about what the old prices for a GTC were once:
30 Days = 175 mil
90 Days = 300 mil

This is atleast what i remember right before CCP switched to 60 day GTC. I may be giving a greater value on the GTC were worth, not more. ALSO remember, 30, 60, and 90 day PLEX were coexistant for some time after 60 days were introduced. The 60 days GTC heavily increased the price of the 30 and 90 days shortly after 60 days came out. I have never seen a 30 day plex for 300 mil.

I'll take 2 of what you're drinking.



gratz, you chose to misunderstand his statement.

He is talking about the last few weeks, you're talking about the last few years.

Your Client
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:41:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
Edited by: Kalle Demos on 10/12/2010 13:45:27
Plex prices are dropping, the prices went ******edly high WHEN microtransaction rumours ran wild, pretty much the day CCP said no to microtransactions the prices started to drop fast.

GTC was about 300 mil for 30 days, CCP change it so you could only get the 60 day ones.



You are confused...

The following is about what the old prices for a GTC were once:
30 Days = 175 mil
90 Days = 300 mil

This is atleast what i remember right before CCP switched to 60 day GTC. I may be giving a greater value on the GTC were worth, not more. ALSO remember, 30, 60, and 90 day PLEX were coexistant for some time after 60 days were introduced. The 60 days GTC heavily increased the price of the 30 and 90 days shortly after 60 days came out. I have never seen a 30 day plex for 300 mil.

I'll take 2 of what you're drinking.

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:42:00 - [28]
 

ahem... my timeline seems to be messed up. Shocked

Your Client
Posted - 2010.12.11 10:51:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
Edited by: Kalle Demos on 10/12/2010 13:45:27
GTC was about 300 mil for 30 days


Did you mean 30 Day PLEX? Not GTC?

OMFG if GTC went that low recently, i would of bought them ALL!!!11!

Dirk Swan
Posted - 2010.12.11 13:38:00 - [30]
 

CCP stop macro users!


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