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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:19:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: MooKids

Didn't some famous mountain climber, when asked why he climbed Mt. Everest, say "Because its there!"?


Yeah, George Mallory.

And just like this guys pod, he died on the slopes attemtping it Very Happy

RollinDutchMasters
Gallente
Ordnance Delivery Services Inc.
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:20:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
Get real, perhaps he, like me, doesn't want a PvP alt. Perhaps he's quite happy just training his main character, I know I am. I have never done PvP in this game, and I have fun. There are quite a few of us in this game where "PvP <> Fun" holds true, just because you enjoy it, doesn't mean everyone has to.
There are 1158 .5+ systems in EVE. If you cannot play in the rough, stick to the CONCORD fairway. Oh, and read my sig.

Viceroy
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:33:00 - [33]
 

Laughing

So you want podding to be banned in empire space and -10 people to be kicked out just because "your friend" (aka you) screwed up and got podded?

No thanks. I like 0.4 being risky. I like getting podded when i don't pay attention. I link fighting people in 0.4, I like running blockades, and I like the general atmosphere that reminds you that EVE isn't a singleplayer game.

But I don't like people like you, who just love to barge around whining like they own the game. I also don't like it how you assume that just because "your friend" (lollerskates) can't handle the risks of 0.4, no body can, and thus they should be removed all together, regardless of anyone elses opinion or taste.

Go away.

Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers
Independent Manufacturers Alliance
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:35:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
There are 1158 .5+ systems in EVE. If you cannot play in the rough, stick to the CONCORD fairway.


Yes, unfortunately, there are <0.5 systems stuck at particularly important junctions between constellations which you can't really miss. I would be quite haapy to be able to go from Sivala to Haatomo and stay in 0.5+ systems if it was just 3 jumps like it is going through Kubinen, but it's not, I'm not sure how far it is, because even if you set autopilot to stay in 0.5+ AND tell it to avoid pod killing zones, it will still take you through Kubinen to get from Sivala to Haatomo.

Oh, and if you do agent missions out of Haatomo, 90% of them send you either into or through Kubinen.

Drahcir





Gozan Nazog
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:42:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Gozan Nazog on 14/01/2005 09:43:38
So your 'friend' enters a 0.4 system in a frigate, without BMs, sees (or maybe does not bother to check) a -10 security status pilot in the system, proceeds to the gate and gets podded Laughing. Only has himself to blame I am afraid Confused

There are plenty of ways to avoid or escape this scenario but they require some effort, some planning, some cunning. Your friend wasn't willing to make this extra effort required to enter 0.4 and hence paid the price.

So please don't come onto the forums crying for nerfs to protect your friend from his own lazyness and ineptitude.

w0rmy
Destructive Influence
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:45:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Drahcir Nasom

Oh, and if you do agent missions out of Haatomo, 90% of them send you either into or through Kubinen.



So do mission out of somewhere else

Rolling Eyes

RollinDutchMasters
Gallente
Ordnance Delivery Services Inc.
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:47:00 - [37]
 

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this"

"Well, let me find a bone saw, I'll need to amputate"

Nomeshta
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:53:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
Edited by: RollinDutchMasters on 14/01/2005 06:14:11
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. It probably still hurts from getting kicked in it.

Oh, and I cant see how having your sound off would be a problem unless you werent paying attention to the game. In which case the pirate that nuked your afk ship did EVE a favor.

EDIT - Read My Sig


Except, Rollin, the map is bjorked and that's the only tool to let you know if a system is currently occupied by a camping killer........

Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers
Independent Manufacturers Alliance
Posted - 2005.01.14 09:57:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Viceroy
So you want podding to be banned in empire space and -10 people to be kicked out just because "your friend" (aka you) screwed up and got podded?


No, my corpmate is not me, but I understand where he is coming from. I'm not going anywhere, but my corpmate has cancelled payment on his account from the next one due, which from his post on our corp forum I believe is 9th Feb.

Originally by: Viceroy
No thanks. I like 0.4 being risky. I like getting podded when i don't pay attention. I link fighting people in 0.4, I like running blockades, and I like the general atmosphere that reminds you that EVE isn't a singleplayer game.


Woopee doo, so you like fighting, well quite a few of us don't. If you like fighting so much, go and fight someone, personally, I would like all PvP in Eve to be made consensual only, so if I don't want to fight anyone, I don't have to, but unfortunately that will never happen.

Originally by: Viceroy
But I don't like people like you, who just love to barge around whining like they own the game. I also don't like it how you assume that just because "your friend" (lollerskates) can't handle the risks of 0.4, no body can, and thus they should be removed all together, regardless of anyone elses opinion or taste.

Go away.


And I don't like people like you who go round killing other players for the fun of it, thinking you own the game. Everybody should be given the chance to play the game they want to, unfortunately because CCP listens too often to the whiny pirates in this game, there are no places which are really safe for those of us who don't want to ever get involved in PvP combat of any sort.

What would be good in my opinion is if CCP gave you the option at character creation time only to be either PvP capable or PvP incapable. If you chose your character to be the latter, then your char could never take part in any sort of PvP action, you couldn't attack another player and no-one could attack you while you were in Empire space, should you step out of Empire space, you could be attacked, but Empire space, whether 0.5, 0.4 or 0.1 would be safe for you as far as PvP went. That would allow those of us who are quite happy trading, agent running and manufacturing in Empire space to play without having to worry about other players ganking our enjoyment of the game.

Drahcir

Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers
Independent Manufacturers Alliance
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:05:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Gozan Nazog
Edited by: Gozan Nazog on 14/01/2005 09:43:38
So your 'friend' enters a 0.4 system in a frigate, without BMs, sees (or maybe does not bother to check) a -10 security status pilot in the system, proceeds to the gate and gets podded Laughing. Only has himself to blame I am afraid Confused

There are plenty of ways to avoid or escape this scenario but they require some effort, some planning, some cunning. Your friend wasn't willing to make this extra effort required to enter 0.4 and hence paid the price.

So please don't come onto the forums crying for nerfs to protect your friend from his own lazyness and ineptitude.


My corpmate was flying through a 0.4 system which he flys through probably as much as 20 times per day and has been doing so for months. This is the first time ever he's seen a pirate in that system. How's he supposed to know something is different? The map doesn't work properly. You don't know there is a threat until it appears in your overview. He didn't know he was being locked because he had the sound turned off, he did try running for the gate but his ship was killed before he got there, and then he couldn't jump with his pod for some reason, despite being close enough to the gate. It takes an Apoc a fair time to lock a pod and kill it, and all that time he was trying to jump.

Drahcir

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:06:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Avon on 14/01/2005 10:06:19
Chill off a bit people, Drahcir is a good bloke.
Disagree with him by all means, but don't take the ****.

Firstly, low sec systems surrounded by high sec systems are stupid.
Secondly, podding people who use those systems is pretty dumb too. You know the people who pass through there are going to be 'carebear' types, why inflame them? We know how loud they can cry, and we know what happens when they do.

Look what happened to one of my favorite old haunts, Sarum Prime. It used to be a tasty 0.4 on the border of Amarr (1.0),
Flew through there the other day ... 1.0!

I cried.



Anyway, I digress.

If the player had to have the sound off because of that stupid max volume bug, and was suffering lag, petition it.
I know I would.



Ohnoes, I'm turning carebear.

Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:08:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
Originally by: Viceroy
So you want podding to be banned in empire space and -10 people to be kicked out just because "your friend" (aka you) screwed up and got podded?


No, my corpmate is not me, but I understand where he is coming from. I'm not going anywhere, but my corpmate has cancelled payment on his account from the next one due, which from his post on our corp forum I believe is 9th Feb.

Originally by: Viceroy
No thanks. I like 0.4 being risky. I like getting podded when i don't pay attention. I link fighting people in 0.4, I like running blockades, and I like the general atmosphere that reminds you that EVE isn't a singleplayer game.


Woopee doo, so you like fighting, well quite a few of us don't. If you like fighting so much, go and fight someone, personally, I would like all PvP in Eve to be made consensual only, so if I don't want to fight anyone, I don't have to, but unfortunately that will never happen.

Originally by: Viceroy
But I don't like people like you, who just love to barge around whining like they own the game. I also don't like it how you assume that just because "your friend" (lollerskates) can't handle the risks of 0.4, no body can, and thus they should be removed all together, regardless of anyone elses opinion or taste.

Go away.


And I don't like people like you who go round killing other players for the fun of it, thinking you own the game. Everybody should be given the chance to play the game they want to, unfortunately because CCP listens too often to the whiny pirates in this game, there are no places which are really safe for those of us who don't want to ever get involved in PvP combat of any sort.

What would be good in my opinion is if CCP gave you the option at character creation time only to be either PvP capable or PvP incapable. If you chose your character to be the latter, then your char could never take part in any sort of PvP action, you couldn't attack another player and no-one could attack you while you were in Empire space, should you step out of Empire space, you could be attacked, but Empire space, whether 0.5, 0.4 or 0.1 would be safe for you as far as PvP went. That would allow those of us who are quite happy trading, agent running and manufacturing in Empire space to play without having to worry about other players ganking our enjoyment of the game.

Drahcir



PLease join your friend and cancel your sub as well.

Its carebears like you that got the game nerfed this far down already. Go play the sims or world of ****ers. If you had a 20M isk clone and are still such a nub I pity you. You're the kind of person that gets fat at McDonalds then sues them because you're fat. Accept some responsibilities for your own failuers instead of blaming others.

Nomeshta
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:08:00 - [43]
 

Who stole the real Avon?

FireFoxx80
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:13:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Drahcir Nasom

My corpmate was flying through a 0.4 system which he flys through probably as much as 20 times per day and has been doing so for months. This is the first time ever he's seen a pirate in that system. How's he supposed to know something is different? The map doesn't work properly. You don't know there is a threat until it appears in your overview. He didn't know he was being locked because he had the sound turned off, he did try running for the gate but his ship was killed before he got there, and then he couldn't jump with his pod for some reason, despite being close enough to the gate. It takes an Apoc a fair time to lock a pod and kill it, and all that time he was trying to jump.

Drahcir



1: "This is the first time ever he's seen a pirate in that system."
- I've been seperated from my ship plenty of times in 0.4, I guess your friend has just been lucky in the past.

2: "He didn't know he was being locked because he had the sound turned off."
- What do you want? The Eve Store to sell a big flashing light you can plug into yuor USB port, that flashes when you're locked?

3: "he did try running for the gate but his ship was killed before he got there"
- Well, you have to give the pirates a sporting chance, I mean, the mobile warp scramblers don't quite work.

4: "and then he couldn't jump with his pod for some reason"
- Panic is a wonderful thing.


Just sounds like your friend got caught with his pants down. This isn't a consentual PvP game, people die.

RollinDutchMasters
Gallente
Ordnance Delivery Services Inc.
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:17:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: RollinDutchMasters on 14/01/2005 10:18:06
Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
My corpmate was flying through a 0.4 system which he flys through probably as much as 20 times per day and has been doing so for months. This is the first time ever he's seen a pirate in that system.
Yes, .4 is so horribly dangerous that he died once in months of heavily traversing a system. Here, let me get out my sympathy cards.

Oh wait, youre complaining about pirates killing you one time out of what appears to be thousands of trips? You made the choice to go into that system and eventually the gamble didnt pay off.

Whereas I made the choice to get a sec status below -5, and if I go into .5+ I get killed on sight 100% of the time. You will have to excuse me if I think your one trip out of a thousand death is a laughable amount of danger.

You made your choice to go into that system. Dont blame someone else because you were ill-prepared, either with a something that could combat gatecampers or decent bookmarks. That is your fault, and noone elses.

Oh, and after you lose a ship you cant jump for 15 seconds (session change). You can however warp away.

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:21:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Nomeshta
Who stole the real Avon?


The real Avon doesn't want to see the game nerfed any more.
The real Avon is getting sick of a few griefers making a return to piracy even less likely.

Blowing things up in 0.4, in general, the real Avon approves of.
Blowing things up in 0.4's which shouldn't really be there ... well, it is just asking for trouble and ner***e.

Gotta say though, this bloke was pretty damned unlucky - sound off because of the horrible bug (and it is my biggest current pet hate), lag, and then a gate not activating.
I have suffered all of these things, often 2 at a time .. but all three at once? Even I would be annoyed.


I am not saying that there is any reason within the rules why this person should not have been podded. I am not saying that the killer did anything wrong, just unwise.

The act itself is technically fine, I just don't approve of any action which is likely to lead to more nerfs which directly detract from my chosen playstyle.


Ah, the real Avon is back.

Viceroy
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:22:00 - [47]
 

Quote:
Woopee doo, so you like fighting, well quite a few of us don't. If you like fighting so much, go and fight someone, personally, I would like all PvP in Eve to be made consensual only, so if I don't want to fight anyone, I don't have to, but unfortunately that will never happen.


Yes it won't happen. This game is not made specificly for the mentally challenged. Competition is a part of it, and if you can't handle that, tough luck. Grab a Sims Online account and have fun.

Quote:
And I don't like people like you who go round killing other players for the fun of it, thinking you own the game. Everybody should be given the chance to play the game they want to, unfortunately because CCP listens too often to the whiny pirates in this game, there are no places which are really safe for those of us who don't want to ever get involved in PvP combat of any sort.


Ehem, when has CCP ever changed anything TOWARDS non-consensual PvP? Never. On the contrary, EVE has always been a non-consensual game that has been nerfed and nerfed towards candyland. Saying that "whining" caused CCP to make the game a bloodbath is the most stupid thing i've ever heard, considering that it used to be much more of a bloodbath before sentries were added to 0.4, concord was beefed up etc.

Quote:
What would be good in my opinion is if CCP gave you the option at character creation time only to be either PvP capable or PvP incapable. If you chose your character to be the latter, then your char could never take part in any sort of PvP action, you couldn't attack another player and no-one could attack you while you were in Empire space, should you step out of Empire space, you could be attacked, but Empire space, whether 0.5, 0.4 or 0.1 would be safe for you as far as PvP went. That would allow those of us who are quite happy trading, agent running and manufacturing in Empire space to play without having to worry about other players ganking our enjoyment of the game.


Hahahah. That gave me a good laugh. Carebears wet dream. You truely have no idea how a MMO like EVE works. Sims Online would be a perfect choice for you.

agrizla
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:26:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
My corpmate was flying through a 0.4 system which he flys through probably as much as 20 times per day and has been doing so for months.


Then he's stupid. He flies through a system "20 times per day" and doesn't have the route bookmarked? He's stupid or you're exaggerating. Which one is it?

Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers
Independent Manufacturers Alliance
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:26:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: FireFoxx80
2: "He didn't know he was being locked because he had the sound turned off."
- What do you want? The Eve Store to sell a big flashing light you can plug into yuor USB port, that flashes when you're locked?


No, but CCP fixing the bug in the game which is forcing many players particularly those with Soundblaster Audigy sound cards to have to play with the sound switched off, because otherwise we are sitting with the sound at maximum. This bug has been in for at least the last couple of weeks.

Originally by: FireFoxx80
4: "and then he couldn't jump with his pod for some reason"
- Panic is a wonderful thing.


According to RollinDutchMasters above, you can't jump for 15 seconds after losing your ship, well this is news to me, and I've been playing since day 2. I haven't seen anything about this change to game mechanics in the patch notes. If it was me who had lost a ship, I would also probably have been podded in that case, because I would have been sitting there trying to jump to safety, not knowing I couldn't.

Drahcir

Hollborn
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:28:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: FireFoxx80


2: "He didn't know he was being locked because he had the sound turned off."
- What do you want? The Eve Store to sell a big flashing light you can plug into yuor USB port, that flashes when you're locked?




This is a fantastic idea. I'd buy one. CCP take note. Laughing

RollinDutchMasters
Gallente
Ordnance Delivery Services Inc.
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:33:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: RollinDutchMasters on 14/01/2005 10:33:13
Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
According to RollinDutchMasters above, you can't jump for 15 seconds after losing your ship, well this is news to me, and I've been playing since day 2. I haven't seen anything about this change to game mechanics in the patch notes. If it was me who had lost a ship, I would also probably have been podded in that case, because I would have been sitting there trying to jump to safety, not knowing I couldn't.
When you try to jump, you get a message informing you that you cant and a number of seconds until you can. If you keep trying instead of warping away, you need to learn how to think faster. Or at all.

This change is rather old, afaik, its to prevent stuck characters when jumping too soon after a session change.

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:35:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
Edited by: RollinDutchMasters on 14/01/2005 10:33:13
Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
According to RollinDutchMasters above, you can't jump for 15 seconds after losing your ship, well this is news to me, and I've been playing since day 2. I haven't seen anything about this change to game mechanics in the patch notes. If it was me who had lost a ship, I would also probably have been podded in that case, because I would have been sitting there trying to jump to safety, not knowing I couldn't.
When you try to jump, you get a message informing you that you cant and a number of seconds until you can. If you keep trying instead of warping away, you need to learn how to think faster. Or at all.

This change is rather old, afaik, its to prevent stuck characters when jumping too soon after a session change.


You don't always get the session change messages though, I wish it were so.

I had it not so long back when my ship was blasted just after I had clicked jump.
Pod wouldn't jump through the gate, and I got no message .. only just got away.

Neamus
Posted - 2005.01.14 10:45:00 - [53]
 

Hire a merc to go slap the b1atch. Don't whine about it though, **** happens... Cool

Quithlar Binay
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2005.01.14 11:04:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
Originally by: Sc0rpion
Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
So, the question is, how did a griefer with a sec rating of -10 get into Kubinen, since to get there from anywhere else he would have had to cross space >0.4, and I thought if you were -10 in space >0.4, Concord killed you instantly.


Unless he flew there in a pod, then CONCORD wouldn't look at him twice.


OK, put it another way, how did he get into Kubinen in an Apoc fitted with modded tachyon beam lasers without Concord ganking him on the way there?

Drahcir



The answer is that he did not fly an Apocalypse fitted with "modded tachyon beam lasers" or anything else into Kubinen. He had another pilot deliver it, or simply purchased one in that corridor of low-security systems. I have been watching for this in Decon and Sharuveil, so that I can warn our new pilots away when it happens.

As for your friend, pirate activity shows up in vivid color on your starmap, if you only take the time to set one filter and look. It won't save you if you are the first person through, but it will save you a lot of grief otherwise. Live and learn, my friend.

Steven Dynahir
Gallente
Avaruuslaivanrakentajat Oyj
Posted - 2005.01.14 11:07:00 - [55]
 

Quote:
My corpmate was flying through a 0.4 system which he flys through probably as much as 20 times per day and has been doing so for months. This is the first time ever he's seen a pirate in that system. How's he supposed to know something is different? The map doesn't work properly. You don't know there is a threat until it appears in your overview. He didn't know he was being locked because he had the sound turned off, he did try running for the gate but his ship was killed before he got there, and then he couldn't jump with his pod for some reason, despite being close enough to the gate. It takes an Apoc a fair time to lock a pod and kill it, and all that time he was trying to jump.


Your Friends Own Mistakes (YFOM):

1. By flying 20 times aday in low sec he got used to the fact that there USUALLY isn't any gate campers. So he assumed something he should have not.

2. He is not supposed to know that something is differently, he should take the poper cautionary procedures. But since he got used that there have been no attack, he assumed that he doesn't need to check the procedures.

3. He didn't know how to use the map, or he didn't even bothered to read it.

4. Theats are supposed to appear in your overview, not anywhere else. You can get hints about threaths if you take your time and look.

5. There is visual indication that you are being locked, unless the attacked used "Passive Targeting Module" which is designed to not to give you any hints of being locked.

6. And he foolishly returned the fire when running to the gate. Like they would let you enter a gate while shooting other players.

Sister Immacolata
Posted - 2005.01.14 11:09:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Sister Immacolata on 14/01/2005 11:15:00
Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Ranger Whitestar

even i know 0.4 may as well be 0.0 no matter where it is.


Yes.
That is very much the essence of 0.4
0.4 is basicly just an extention of 0.0
And I'm not all together sure the amount of 0.0 vs safe space is in proportion.
I'm not for changing the settings of 0.4 to 0.1
I think they work fine as it is.


Its basically what makes it a hogwash. Its either safe or it isn't. This muddy gray zone does not do anyone but the gate ganking griefers a favour. Make it a straight 0.0 space.

Or do as the guy says! Disallow podding in sectors 0.1-1.0. No where in empire will you pod another person without getting the police on you tail. But in 0.1-0.4 we could, to stop the whingeing gate gankers and "pirates", allow ship kills. So that would make it impossible for super griefers to sit at a gate with 8 smartbombs and blow up anything that comes near. If they blow the pod, well geez, there goes their own ship too.

Rampant killings are best left to 0.0. The currently security rating is flawed since the step from 1.0 to 0.5 is almost unnoticeable but the shift from 0.5 to 0.4 is of an order of magnitude higher. If 0.4 is 0.0 but with sentry guns, then call it 0.0 space please.

AS it is now, adventures in 0.1.-0.4 space is probably more dangerous than those in 0.0. In 0.0, if you aren't part of the alliance that owns the place, any person in local is your enemy. There are no sentry guns giving you a false sense of security. There are no nearby high sec systems to lull you into a sense of being "near civilization". When in empire theres a lot of people passing through local and it gets your heartbeat up everytime.

Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.01.14 11:13:00 - [57]
 

lots of long posts and lots of unneeded flaming.

It all comes down to this:

"I want this game to be consentual pvp only, either by direct or indirect mechanics protecting me"

That is what you are saying, that is what you are asking CCP to do.

Sorry, but the chance they will listen is 0. They have already repeatedly stated that NO space is meant to be absolutely safe, and that NO one is going to get the option of choosing to be attackable or not at any point in the future development of this game.

As for getting podded in low sec space, it hurts when you ahve implants yes. Can't afford them, don't use them.

And finally for the low sec space issue. I think he flew that apoc in with an alt most probably, and had his main move over in a clone. Pretty much effort to go to just to get into an area where you can grief people that are defenseless sort of. I'd agree that there's zero honour or skill involved here and share your assesment of this character's character.

But I don't want the game changed because he is here screwing it up.

Albus
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.01.14 11:13:00 - [58]
 

Wah wah waaaaaaaaaah!

w0rmy
Destructive Influence
Posted - 2005.01.14 11:13:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Avon

Firstly, low sec systems surrounded by high sec systems are stupid.
Secondly, podding people who use those systems is pretty dumb too. You know the people who pass through there are going to be 'carebear' types, why inflame them? We know how loud they can cry, and we know what happens when they do.



Youre a pretty smart cookie!


CCP if youre hiring, grab this guy, he sounds like he has more of a clue than 99% of the people on here!

RollinDutchMasters
Gallente
Ordnance Delivery Services Inc.
Posted - 2005.01.14 11:15:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Sister Immacolata
Rampant killings are best left to 0.0.
Rampant killings are best left to 0.0 space, where my alliance can outblob an enemy and I am free to shoot random people with my 14 friends. However, when I am in empire, I definately dont want to have to defend myself. Its outrageous that in unsafe space I might be unsafe, and I dont have anywhere near the size blob that I need to survive out here.

CCP send help ASAP!


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