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Storm Tr00per
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:37:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Storm Tr00per on 04/12/2010 20:45:52
Quote:
1v1
Start 20km from center container (Placed at start of tourny).
Don't go 50km outside of the center container.
No warping out.
Fight to the death.


so ... what t1 frigates could rock in this kind of tourney , and with what setup ? I was thinking of a Merlin ... or maybe the obvious Rifter ? Hmmmm

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:46:00 - [2]
 

You could probably **** faces with anything ewar.
Like seriously, decent skills + TD, Sensor Damp, ECM...
I've always liked Gallente kiting dampener setups with speed, drones, and rails.

Kalnov
Gallente
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:05:00 - [3]
 

Merlin with 2 MSE and purger rigs will easily beat everything else.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:09:00 - [4]
 

Fit cloak, wait until 1 left, pwn them. Laughing

Cryocasm
Task Force A.S.T.E.R.O.I.D
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:15:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Storm Tr00per
Quote:
Start 20km from center container (Placed at start of tourny).
Don't go 50km outside of the center container.
No warping out.
Fight to the death.


so ... what t1 frigates could rock in this kind of tourney , and with what setup ? I was thinking of a Merlin ... or maybe the obvious Rifter ? Hmmmm


Dramiel.

It gives a fat 100% bonus, that makes 2 artilleries hit like 4, out doing the Rifter.

Plus, you can actually tank it.

Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
Posted - 2010.12.04 20:33:00 - [6]
 

Is it one-on-one, or free-for-all?
In one-on-one fights in M.Corp Academy, we had a few types that worked well:

1. Rifters or Merlins with warp scrams and webs who could get in close.
2. Kestrels with the speed to stay out of range and lob missiles from afar.
3. Griffins with a good pilot, but you may need Thermodynamics to break the enemy tank.

Other ships won battles, of course. Skills, overheating, and the rock-paper-scissors effect all make a huge difference. But for my part the three ideas above are good bets.

Note that if the rules stipulate starting at 0km, things are different, and it's all Rifter vs Rifter stuff.

When we had our tournaments, if I recall correctly, we picked a particular planet as the battle site, and combatants were allowed to choose for themselves what at what distance they warped, and from which direction, so you couldn't predict starting range.

Storm Tr00per
Posted - 2010.12.04 20:52:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Daneel Trevize
Fit cloak, wait until 1 left, pwn them. Laughing

my bad , forgot to say 1v1 , if it was ffa , then cloak would be excluded from the start Razz
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Is it one-on-one, or free-for-all?
In one-on-one fights in M.Corp Academy, we had a few types that worked well:

1. Rifters or Merlins with warp scrams and webs who could get in close.
2. Kestrels with the speed to stay out of range and lob missiles from afar.
3. Griffins with a good pilot, but you may need Thermodynamics to break the enemy tank.

Other ships won battles, of course. Skills, overheating, and the rock-paper-scissors effect all make a huge difference. But for my part the three ideas above are good bets.

Note that if the rules stipulate starting at 0km, things are different, and it's all Rifter vs Rifter stuff.

When we had our tournaments, if I recall correctly, we picked a particular planet as the battle site, and combatants were allowed to choose for themselves what at what distance they warped, and from which direction, so you couldn't predict starting range.


in the rules we had no warp out , so nn warp scram unless you wanna null their possible MWD advantage , also i like your idea with planet warp , because with that known starting range some frigs could have few volleys advantage :)

Shiho Weitong
Caldari
Koa Mai Hoku
Posted - 2010.12.04 21:05:00 - [8]
 

Could be fun, if nothing else.

[Caldari Navy Hookbill, PEW]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Target Painter II
1MN Afterburner II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Javelin Rocket

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Pinky Starstrider
Posted - 2010.12.04 21:53:00 - [9]
 

probably a dramiel.

oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:38:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kalnov
Merlin with 2 MSE and purger rigs will easily beat everything else.


Seriously, use this.

[Merlin - Dual MSE Purge]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
Stasis Webifier II

75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]

Small Anti-Em Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I

What you can't catch can't kill you and what you can catch you can kill.


Storm Tr00per
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:51:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: oldmanst4r
Originally by: Kalnov
Merlin with 2 MSE and purger rigs will easily beat everything else.


Seriously, use this.

[Merlin - Dual MSE Purge]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
Stasis Webifier II

75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]

Small Anti-Em Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I

What you can't catch can't kill you and what you can catch you can kill.




well , this looks sweet on paper , but can`t be fitted on my toon unless i have a 5% PG implant , which i don`t have Embarassed Dunno why though , cause i have perfect fitting skills ...

also please don`t suggest faction or pirate frigates ^^

Shiho Weitong
Caldari
Koa Mai Hoku
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:57:00 - [12]
 

No faction frigs... Hmmm...

[Kestrel, Non Faction]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Overdrive Injector System II

Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening
Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening

'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Arbalest' Standard Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

This could be fun.

oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.05 00:10:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: oldmanst4r on 05/12/2010 00:31:26
Edited by: oldmanst4r on 05/12/2010 00:31:00
Edited by: oldmanst4r on 05/12/2010 00:18:08
Edited by: oldmanst4r on 05/12/2010 00:16:55
Originally by: Storm Tr00per
Originally by: oldmanst4r
Originally by: Kalnov
Merlin with 2 MSE and purger rigs will easily beat everything else.


Seriously, use this.

[Merlin - Dual MSE Purge]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
Stasis Webifier II

75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]

Small Anti-Em Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I

What you can't catch can't kill you and what you can catch you can kill.




well , this looks sweet on paper , but can`t be fitted on my toon unless i have a 5% PG implant , which i don`t have Embarassed Dunno why though , cause i have perfect fitting skills ...

also please don`t suggest faction or pirate frigates ^^


You need shield upgrades V and AWU IV to fit it without any implants.

Edit: If you don't have Shield Upgrades V...

[Merlin - Dual Shield Purge]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
1MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II

75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]


Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I

Has fairly similar stats to the first fit. Just remember to overheat your hardener at the beginning of the fight.

Edit also consider this fit..

[Merlin - Dual Web Buffer]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Stasis Webifier II
1MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II

75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S]
75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]


Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

This fit operates on the same principle as the Dual-Web Hookbill. Since you don't need a warp scram this would be able to keep any frigate pinned at 10km which is right at the edge of the falloff of a rifter with barrage. Any frigates with blasters would be screwed and those with autos would have less EHP and DPS than you at that range.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
Posted - 2010.12.05 00:36:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: oldmanst4r
[Merlin - Dual MSE Purge]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
Stasis Webifier II

75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
75mm Gatling Rail II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]
Rocket Launcher II [Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket]

Small Anti-Em Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I

What you can't catch can't kill you and what you can catch you can kill.


I like it. Might consider swapping a purger for an extender though; 1000 ehp for a loss of 4 hp recharge seems like a fair trade.


 

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