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CCP Prism X


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:03:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: d3vo
Thoughts...
It seems my learning SP has been properly given back. Also 22 bill isk for the 5000 skillbooks I had in my hangar too. Thanks! Very Happy

But it seems that while training Capital Ships to level 4, I lost a few hundred thousand skill points. I don't have the exact numbers but iirc, it went do from about 5 days (or so) to now 8 days left in training.


See my post above Very Happy

Raid'En
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:04:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Raid''En on 03/12/2010 14:05:41
Originally by: CCP Prism X

There's about 110k characters affected by this.
Thank the gods for upgrade tests! Shocked

so i suppose we can't dream about gaining our SPs back ? xD
i searched the cause and affcted another char just before you posted :/

affected SPs seems ok for all my accounts.
however i would like an option "apply 1 level of skill" more than apply "xx SP", if it's easy to do for you, i think more than 110k guys will like that ;)
(simply stopping the allocation after 1 lv can work also ; if we try to allocate more point that 1 lv take, only the lv up is done, others points are not used at this time)

Richard Winters
Most Wanted INC
White Noise.
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:05:00 - [33]
 

i Got back all the learning skills sp fine but i had in queue capital ships skill lvl 5 at 16 or 15 days. Thats like 2.7m sp in capital ships skill lvl 4. Now its all back to 0% of Capital ships lvl 4 skill xd. So somehow i lost all the sp in that skill so plz help. I put all the sp from learning in to capital ship skill again, 2.1m sp now its back on 13 days but still i miss that 2m from it :p.

CCP Prism X


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:06:00 - [34]
 

Just a note: I'll reimburse the lost training SPs when we throw the SPs for participation your way as well.

Fellout
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:14:00 - [35]
 

I had Heavy Assault Missiles 4 in skill qeue. Skill trained whitout problems.
No bugs found tested on 3 characters. Learning skills removed and the exact number of
skillpoints that i had in learning was given to redestribute.

Also attribute remap was avalible, i have done a test remap as well and it worked very well.

Small notice tho: After you allocate your attributes and press save it saves it gives you
an pop up that gives you a 12moth warning. When you click yes the changes are saved but
the window showing attributes nor the pop up window close.


Incompatible Combination
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:15:00 - [36]
 

I bought EVE through steam. Where do I find the install directory? I have a download cap and would like to avoid downloading a 3gig file just to test.

Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:24:00 - [37]
 

Three characters on two accounts (two with training queues active) all seem to have the correct skillpoint number in green.

One of these characters had Presence V in training at 0100 UTC, I took a screenshot just before the server went down and the skillpoint total is almost 3000 higher than what's in the snapshot so I'm figuring the calculations for that character came at around 0215 or so. This character didn't have a skill in queue after Presence V (because it would have been 11 days to complete) so the queue was inactive when I just logged in. I'm assuming this is working as intended.

I also checked base attribute points and they all show 17 correctly (good job on this UI change, it's more intuitive to show the non-remappable as a fixed number rather than the white/green slider of old where 5 were non-remappable but the UI made it look like only 4 were, due to the color difference).


Fellout
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:26:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: CCP Prism X
Just a note: I'll reimburse the lost training SPs when we throw the SPs for participation your way as well.


I have tested attributes as well if they work. A OK. Would it be posible to also get anothe attribute remap avalible on sisi.

En'Airua
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:37:00 - [39]
 

I have checked my main character and all is ok (good amount of SP, correct attributes points, ...)

Nice job

Philip Corvinus
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:37:00 - [40]
 

Got my learning sp back...everything looks fine....


BTW Incompatible Combination.............you simple go to program files/steam/steamapps/common/"CCP/Eve Online" .....though not sure if you can patch over steams custom .exe they have for all there games with out having issues for the sisi server

Zogg Prime
Gallente
Brotherhood of Heart and Steel
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:37:00 - [41]
 

apart from the glitch with the current skill training skillpoint reseting to 0 upon login (it said it was fine on the character selection screen) everything else work like a dream for me

Dok Klick
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:41:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Dok Klick on 03/12/2010 14:48:38
-deleted-

Arkhelus
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:48:00 - [43]
 

Everything seams fine. I received all the sp back, aswell the isk.

The only problem, if indeed it is one, I placed in 3 secure containers, one at a planet, one at a gate, one in an asteroid field, 3 complete sets of learning skills. I got refunded, for all of them, but the containers dissapeared.

Unless I`m missing something, those secure containers shouldn`t have dissapeard. Each of them had a password, so... I don`t know.

Apart from that, everything seams ok. Skills removed and refunded from ship left in space, from station vault, warehouse, etc, from containers within ships and ships cargo hold.

Jouter123
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:48:00 - [44]
 

Hey guys, just joined. Still a bit confused by the new looks and double of all but i started from the install proces to here in less than an hour...that was great. Ive read throgh the threads and will go and do some skillbook imaginative destruction and see what come out...like in cans, in ships etc.

Fly safe

Alice Krige
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:49:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Alice Krige on 03/12/2010 14:51:18
Yes, all seems to be OK (except for the above mentioned +/- 260k SP gap).

Now... where is that yummie 5mil SP cookie? Rolling Eyes

Ow and please pretty please: can you change the client upgrade procedure so it won't stop ALL EvE clients?! I have multiple seperate clients running on one rig and they really can be patched individually.

Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:50:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Jouter123
Hey guys, just joined. Still a bit confused by the new looks and double of all but i started from the install proces to here in less than an hour...that was great. Ive read throgh the threads and will go and do some skillbook imaginative destruction and see what come out...like in cans, in ships etc.

Fly safe


Eh, this has nothing to do with skillbooks. It just relates to the Learning category skills being removed.

CCP Prism X


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:51:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Arkhelus
The only problem, if indeed it is one, I placed in 3 secure containers, one at a planet, one at a gate, one in an asteroid field, 3 complete sets of learning skills. I got refunded, for all of them, but the containers dissapeared.


Logs seem to imply they weren't anchored so it's by design. Wink
At least they're not marked as deleted by the learning skill removal.

Arkhelus
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:53:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: CCP Prism X
Originally by: Arkhelus
The only problem, if indeed it is one, I placed in 3 secure containers, one at a planet, one at a gate, one in an asteroid field, 3 complete sets of learning skills. I got refunded, for all of them, but the containers dissapeared.


Logs seem to imply they weren't anchored so it's by design. Wink
At least they're not marked as deleted by the learning skill removal.


I knew I forgot to do something... Anchor them lol.

Anyway, glad to hear it`s ok then :)

CCP Prism X


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:53:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Alice Krige
Now... where is that yummie 5mil SP cookie? Rolling Eyes


Saturday when I manage to crawl into the office. And it will be a 5.26m cookie for you!
Unless I'm still drunk.. then you'll possibly end up with no skills and your character having morphed into Tritanium! Laughing

Crazy Candy
Posted - 2010.12.03 14:59:00 - [50]
 

checked both accounts and correct amount sp unallocated all seems fine my end, yey free SP

Antwon Stylez
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:01:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Antwon Stylez on 03/12/2010 15:01:25
The learning redistribution sp work perfectly...

but where are the 5M sp bonus ;)

CCP Stillman

Posted - 2010.12.03 15:02:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: CCP Prism X
Originally by: Alice Krige
Now... where is that yummie 5mil SP cookie? Rolling Eyes


Saturday when I manage to crawl into the office. And it will be a 5.26m cookie for you!
Unless I'm still drunk.. then you'll possibly end up with no skills and your character having morphed into Tritanium! Laughing


This is just calling for a bet. I know where I'll put my money Twisted Evil

Manu Intiraymi
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:02:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Manu Intiraymi on 03/12/2010 15:03:56
Originally by: CCP Prism X
Originally by: Alice Krige
Now... where is that yummie 5mil SP cookie? Rolling Eyes


Saturday when I manage to crawl into the office. And it will be a 5.26m cookie for you!
Unless I'm still drunk.. then you'll possibly end up with no skills and your character having morphed into Tritanium! Laughing


Saturday, roger roger Wink
Hmmm, how much Tritanium are we talking about exactly? ugh

Edit: darn alts are messing with my mojo (Alice says hi!)

CCP Prism X


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:04:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: CCP Prism X on 03/12/2010 15:05:06
Originally by: Dok Klick
Edited by: Dok Klick on 03/12/2010 14:48:38
-deleted-


I was just about to ask you about your post. I'm assuming you deleted this because there was no issue. That would correlate with my own research into it so I'm assuming we're good.

Kintrell
Caldari
White Dragon Industries
Full Spectrum Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:05:00 - [55]
 

Got all my SP's back from the learning skills...but did not get the 5mil bonus XP...will this be added later? Or should it already be there....I set all my accounts training 14d + skills several hours before the scheduled DT......Hope to see my 5mil bonus points soon

smoopmeister
Pew Pew Patrol
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:08:00 - [56]
 

I'm a crappy tester, i forgot to note how many skills in learning i had on the 4 chars i logged in.
then i remembered i'm also an idiot and looked it up on evemon :/

Kelby
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:08:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Kelby on 03/12/2010 15:10:23
The mechanism seems to have worked for me.

CCP, can you confirm that the attribute drop is permanent or will it be rectified after the initial rollout of these changes? If Iíve figured it out correctly based on my current skill plan (and with currently installed implants) I will be down by 630,720 SP per year, itís not much but Iím not 100% on why any player should be expected to come out of the update worse off than they are now.

What are the possibilities of adding +10 to the attributes and leaving just the rank 1 learning skill in place and perhaps moving it to science? This has the advantage of getting rid of 99% of the time sink but also ensuring nobody comes out of it worse off in the long run.

Please note, refunding of the learning SP should not be considered a gift, reward, favour or short term advantage. This refund is CCP doing the right thing and has no bearing on the long term loss of training speed.

I appreciate the work you guys are doing but I would really be interested in a comment on the attribute drop if possible.

Thanks!

Morgenholt Blue
RED.Legion
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:08:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Kintrell
Got all my SP's back from the learning skills...but did not get the 5mil bonus XP...will this be added later? Or should it already be there....I set all my accounts training 14d + skills several hours before the scheduled DT......Hope to see my 5mil bonus points soon



Originally by: CCP Stillman

I didnít get my free bonus skill points yet
Weíll apply them Saturday morning, UTC, in order to allow people to check the result of the test without us messing with things. Thanks for your patience.



Rolling Eyes

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:10:00 - [59]
 

Well FWIW all my 3 characters across 2 accounts have the previous amount of SP I noted as being in Learning skills now available for redistribution.

I don't think I'd paused any skills that I hadn't trained completely (perhaps I'd put ~1% into some while buffering to add newly possible books), and I don't think I'd paused the currently training skill, so I haven't noticed any lost SP because of the discovered bug.

CCP Prism X


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.03 15:11:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Kelby
CCP, can you confirm that the attribute drop is permanent...


Sorry I'm not following this.
Your character has had +12 points added to all attributes when compared to his pre-run attributes. Can you elaborate on this issue?


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