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Cruise Withaker
Posted - 2010.12.02 03:21:00 - [1]
 

I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked

Brian Ballsack
Posted - 2010.12.02 03:22:00 - [2]
 

Its very boring to fly and does rubbish dps

Cruise Withaker
Posted - 2010.12.02 03:23:00 - [3]
 

So no nerf required then?? Wink

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.02 03:31:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked
Uh, dude? A great number of people do train it up. It's one of the most flown ships in the game. It may actually be the most flown ship in the game (outside of shuttles and rookie ships) if my memory of the recent economic report is right.

mmmPork
Posted - 2010.12.02 03:40:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked


You don't deserve to play in MY EVE.

Cataclysm is coming out, why don't you go back to WoW where they give a **** about your ****ty ideas.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.12.02 03:50:00 - [6]
 

Actually as an unexpected side benefit of training for a Tengu, I get the Drake for free.

\o/

Corndog Sandwich
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.02 03:53:00 - [7]
 

the problem is more with the ferox, cyclone, gallente BCs, and tier 1 amarr BC

they really suck!

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.12.02 05:41:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Corndog Sandwich
the problem is more with the ferox, cyclone, gallente BCs, and tier 1 amarr BC

they really suck!

remind me again why to buy a cyclone when you can get a cane

ILikeMarkets
Posted - 2010.12.02 05:46:00 - [9]
 

Could someone point me towards the info regarding this drake nerf? >_> I didn't notice anything about that in the patch notes.

Bruce Carraway
Posted - 2010.12.02 05:58:00 - [10]
 

the shield brutix is pretty nice, ~1000dps with ~50k ehp, the only problem is getting into range lol

[Brutix, New Setup 1]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Hammerhead II x5



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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:08:00 - [11]
 

Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.


Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:18:00 - [12]
 

I did. Multiple times. ;-)

-Liang

Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:20:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Killstealing
Originally by: Corndog Sandwich
the problem is more with the ferox, cyclone, gallente BCs, and tier 1 amarr BC

they really suck!

remind me again why to buy a cyclone when you can get a cane


Because a cyclone will kill a cane ;)

AstarothPrime
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:25:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Brian Ballsack
Its very boring to fly and does rubbish dps


Ok, I could agree on fun factor - but thats prolly because im in it 95% of the time.

But did u know windrake fit does 760 dps with bonused T2 ammo and drones when u heat the rack. And thats T2 fit Wink
AND that isnt at point blank range (where all larger ships have tracking issues) but @ comfortable 15 km...

Is 760 dps really that rubbish?

I.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:47:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked


Quote:
2 Drake 16,639 2.39%


Second most flow ship after the hulk, the next one is the Kestrel with 11,102 at the time of the QUEN 3 snapshot.

Mme Pinkerton
The pink win
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:49:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked
Uh, dude? A great number of people do train it up. It's one of the most flown ships in the game. It may actually be the most flown ship in the game (outside of shuttles and rookie ships) if my memory of the recent economic report is right.

your memory does not serve you right - most flown ship is the Hulk (which is quiet amazing if you consider its SP requirements), Drake is second.

Orion GUardian
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:56:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Orion GUardian on 02/12/2010 07:58:40
Yes its so flown because its a nice passive tanker for L3s as well...new players train them all the timeand fly them for PvE...



The Drake is not overpowered, its just that its usefulness in MASSIVE BLOBS of 50+ Drakes+Logistics has been seen. The ship wasn't changed and in fact: It was laughed at for useless in PvP for YEARS. And in low number engagements it still is...Speed, regardless of Transversal btw, negates part of the dmg. And there is no module to increase expl. velocity and Expl. Radius other than rigs

BTW: the DPS is with T2 ammo: LOWER Range, higher expl. radius, lower expl velocity and OVERHEATED? So thats as mucha s you get....doesn't sound impressive when you put it that way. Anyone got a Canefit to compare? a GOOD one?

And I'd like to see your 760 DPS drake fit as well....lets see how its EHP/Sig radius/Speed etc fares...

It is a slow mother****er with a sig-radius the size of a Carrier so noone has problems hitting it. The DPS is steady but they are delayed as well. By the time you hit your enemy the first time: He hit you twice already! (Or mor depending on range, his speed etc.) It has a fixed range for its missiles. You cannot change amo to change your Range. HMLs have a nice 70km, HAMLs atmost 15km (no module to increase it as well, but not necessary). SO if you HAM Drake with its 760DPS (maximum, targets speed and sig radius may reduce it greatly) engages someone with a Range of 20km that is faster....he is ****ed....

Cpt Cosmic
Posted - 2010.12.02 07:59:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked
Uh, dude? A great number of people do train it up. It's one of the most flown ships in the game. It may actually be the most flown ship in the game (outside of shuttles and rookie ships) if my memory of the recent economic report is right.

your memory does not serve you right - most flown ship is the Hulk (which is quiet amazing if you consider its SP requirements), Drake is second.

that is because most players are caldari (arent they?) and it is easy to use but to use it properly you need perfect fitting skills, isk to blow for named stuff and maybe a pg implant. this was always the case and there was never a problem.

also people should keep in mind that kinetic damage is useless against alot of ships.

Igualmentedos
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.02 08:19:00 - [19]
 

So...is the drake getting nerfed? If it is, I'd love to get a link or something.

oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
Posted - 2010.12.02 08:53:00 - [20]
 

Don't do that. Seriously, I nearly had a stroke when I saw the title of this thread. I thought they had dropped a drake nerf in with today's hotfix or something.

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2010.12.02 09:47:00 - [21]
 

Drake don't need a smurf, it's fine as is. Big buffer, low DPS, hates Gargamel, end of story.

Target Painter
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.02 10:00:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Target Painter on 02/12/2010 10:00:38
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
Its very boring to fly and does rubbish dps


400 DPS at around 70KM is on-par with every other sniper fit battlecruiser in the game. HAM fits put out decent DPS as well.

NoNah
Posted - 2010.12.02 10:02:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Cpt Cosmic

that is because most players are caldari (arent they?)

They're not. Caldari have the most players, most players are not caldari.
Originally by: Cpt Cosmic

and it is easy to use but to use it properly you need perfect fitting skills, isk to blow for named stuff and maybe a pg implant. this was always the case and there was never a problem.


This is the case for all ships. Drake is exceptionally easy to fit, especially for what they're used most.

Originally by: Cpt Cosmic

also people should keep in mind that kinetic damage is useless against alot of ships.

No, it's not. And if it was, the drake can freely choose damagetypes.

steave435
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.12.02 10:12:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Killstealing
Originally by: Corndog Sandwich
the problem is more with the ferox, cyclone, gallente BCs, and tier 1 amarr BC

they really suck!

remind me again why to buy a cyclone when you can get a cane

Because you need it to build a Claymore/Sleipnir. That's pretty much it really.

CanI haveyourstuff
Posted - 2010.12.02 10:25:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: mmmPork
Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked


You don't deserve to play in MY EVE.

Cataclysm is coming out, why don't you go back to WoW where they give a **** about your ****ty ideas.


And this is why wow has 12 mil subs... eve has... ? 25k + 25k alts.... lol much?

and the whole reason is... ccp doesnt give a **** about players or game balance.


quess what.. i got free 5 day activation.. im back from 12 months break.. Nothing is changed or fixed.. still same old boring bullcrap.

quess if im going to reactivate - prob no. WHY?

ccp so far has never fixed anything all those 4-5 years? and now we get ROCKET BOAS.. fck yea? and... and theeen?

To mare
Amarr
Advanced Technology
Posted - 2010.12.02 10:27:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Target Painter
Edited by: Target Painter on 02/12/2010 10:00:38
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
Its very boring to fly and does rubbish dps


400 DPS at around 70KM is on-par with every other sniper fit battlecruiser in the game. HAM fits put out decent DPS as well.


except that every other sniper BC in the game will have half the EHP of a drake.


but im still convinced drake dont need a nerf

Niclas Solo
Amarr
Love n Peace
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2010.12.02 10:45:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: CanI haveyourstuff
Originally by: mmmPork
Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked


You don't deserve to play in MY EVE.

Cataclysm is coming out, why don't you go back to WoW where they give a **** about your ****ty ideas.


And this is why wow has 12 mil subs... eve has... ? 25k + 25k alts.... lol much?

and the whole reason is... ccp doesnt give a **** about players or game balance.


quess what.. i got free 5 day activation.. im back from 12 months break.. Nothing is changed or fixed.. still same old boring bullcrap.

quess if im going to reactivate - prob no. WHY?

ccp so far has never fixed anything all those 4-5 years? and now we get ROCKET BOAS.. fck yea? and... and theeen?


CanI haveyourstuff? Please.

CanI haveyourstuff
Posted - 2010.12.02 10:53:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Niclas Solo
Originally by: CanI haveyourstuff
Originally by: mmmPork
Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked


You don't deserve to play in MY EVE.

Cataclysm is coming out, why don't you go back to WoW where they give a **** about your ****ty ideas.


And this is why wow has 12 mil subs... eve has... ? 25k + 25k alts.... lol much?

and the whole reason is... ccp doesnt give a **** about players or game balance.


quess what.. i got free 5 day activation.. im back from 12 months break.. Nothing is changed or fixed.. still same old boring bullcrap.

quess if im going to reactivate - prob no. WHY?

ccp so far has never fixed anything all those 4-5 years? and now we get ROCKET BOAS.. fck yea? and... and theeen?


CanI haveyourstuff? Please.


no please? :D srsly.. eve is boring for me :D pvp is boring.. pvp died when everything changed to massive blobfes and nodes crashing all the time.

today you cant pvp without alt or gang or blob... theres either you die in some stupid gatecamp or you wont find anyone in 0.0 whos willing to shoot back.

amirite

Techno Panda
Posted - 2010.12.02 12:39:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: mmmPork
Originally by: Cruise Withaker
I don't get it! If the Drake is so UNFAIR, why the hell does everyone not train it up? Since when did everyone in Eve grow a conscience and uber sense of sportsmanship! Shocked


You don't deserve to play in MY EVE.

Cataclysm is coming out, why don't you go back to WoW where they give a **** about your ****ty ideas.


First of all Blizz doesnt give a damn about anyones ideas, Ive played wow for 5 years...

Second Drake is "Imba" if you cant kill it.

TLDR: Stop crying because you die to drakes.

Brian Ballsack
Posted - 2010.12.02 12:54:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Brian Ballsack on 02/12/2010 12:54:42
Originally by: AstarothPrime

Is 760 dps really that rubbish?



My hurricane, and my blaster brutix of old, both say yes.
I only ever find it a problem in a big blob of drakes.


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